Smoking IS an Option

roque(bronze)
roque(bronze)

September 2nd, 2002, 11:46 am #11

hi

Sure enough, smoking IS an option. So is getting into the bathtub holding an electric toaster. I choose to do neither.

roque
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

September 7th, 2002, 6:29 pm #12

We played junkie thinking games with our minds for years. It's time for honesty. Yes, relapse will always remain an option for each of us but as long as never put nicotine into these bodies again we each stay on this side of the bars. If you'll only remain patient you'll soon see that it's much easier being the jailor than the jailed. Today is doable!
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David Gold
David Gold

September 28th, 2002, 9:05 pm #13

What has always helped me is the fact that yes if I really want one I can have one in the next five minutes. I instantly feel ok after reinforcing that idea in my thoughts.

I always used to feel I was depriving myself that I can never smoke again. But hey if I really want one They are readily available. I just make the choice not to smoke one just for today or for the next 5 minutes whatever seems to work for me at the time.

David
3 months +
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Lilac (Bronze)
Lilac (Bronze)

September 28th, 2002, 9:29 pm #14

the option is always open? Yes, it is , of course.. I am at an odd stage A stage that makes me even more grateful than usual for the forum. My urges and temptaions ebb and flow in a sort of underground way. They barely ruffle my thoughts and actions which must at this time in my life be concentrated outwardly. But I often feel an unease ,an awarenes of the underground life.. It is still wedded to the old smoking ways. and days. I almost feel pity for it. It gives up so hard. And then something comes along to evaporate the pity. Today it is , I believe it was Tom's reference, a poem, which really wracked my soul. The option is always there but what a terrible option is is. Lilac
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4LongLife(Silver)
4LongLife(Silver)

November 19th, 2002, 12:06 pm #15

I never really thought about it but I was one of those who said it is not an option. You are correct though yes it is an option but not one I want to keep open. I know I will have to fight it but I think I can. I do know how the opiate dependent person feels because I feel that nicotine is on that same level as far as addiction.
Dave
One week, three days, 22 hours, 47 minutes and 39 seconds. 87 cigars not smoked, saving $43.80. Life not used smoking: 7 hours, 15 minutes. Actual life being save: Years
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Joel
Joel

January 10th, 2003, 1:09 am #16

Smoking is an option. Failing is an option. Suicide by many different means is an option. Hopefully no one here will ever pursue any of these options and instead will strive for the option to staying smoke free which will be accomplished by always remembering to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joel

May 5th, 2003, 7:29 pm #17

Stop obsessing on the idea that "you can't smoke." It is not true, you can smoke. You can smoke anytime you want. You can smoke 20 or 40 or 60 or if you really want to make yourself sick to your stomach quickly, maybe even overdosing yourself into cardiac arrest, you could force well over a hundred cigarettes down today just to prove you can smoke. The issue is not that you can't smoke, it is that you can't smoke one without relapsing. Relapsing means you either have to go back to full-fledged smoking again or go through quitting again. Those are both lousy "options." But yes, using your mind set, they are still options. But you have a new option now, a better option or choice to consider. That is if you don't take a puff, not because you can't but because you choose not to, you never have to go through smoking or quitting again.

So don't let anyone tell you what you can or can't do. But ask yourself daily what it is that you want to do. Do you want to take a puff and once again be controlled by a substance. A substance that "makes" you smoke, and "makes" you sick and if left to its own devices will "make" you die, or do you keep control over your own destiny. To keep that control, never take another puff!'

Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

July 29th, 2003, 8:05 pm #18

And so is a 50/50 option of losing roughly
5,000 sunrises - maybe less, maybe more!
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CKAgger Gold.ffn
CKAgger Gold.ffn

August 17th, 2003, 3:39 am #19

One of my friends is an alcoholic and nearly died from drinking some years ago. Since then, he went into treatment and has stayed off for a long time now.
He was at the stage of epileptic attacks and cardiac arrests, so if he ever relapses to drinking, his death will be imminent ().

Once, I was having dinner with him and my kids, and I explained to my kids he wasn't having any wine because he "can't drink", and he said: "Oh yes, I can drink - I can drink all I want. But I know that drinking has some consequences and not drinking has some consequences and I can choose which consequences I want." So he actively chooses not to drink.

And it's the same for us nicotine addicts - yes, we can smoke. We can always smoke. But, knowing we're addicts - do we want to? And knowing relapse is as certain as for the friend I just spoke of, the answer should be NO - we can't want to go back to being slaves of nicotine. Addicts we always remain, but we can choose to stop being slaves.

regards
Carsten

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I have been quit for 4 Weeks, 1 Day, 20 hours and 33 minutes (29 days). I have saved kr 1.522,66 by not smoking 895 cigarettes. I have saved 3 Days, 2 hours and 35 minutes of my life.
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Alleen Golden
Alleen Golden

September 2nd, 2003, 9:41 pm #20

Joel: That must have been me.... I did say that - smoking is not an option. I do see your point. Smoking is an option if you want all the stuff that goes along with it. Since I don't want all the "stuff" that goes along with it, I think that is where I got the smoking is not an option part of it.

I have read your article and will think it over. Thank you for your help.

Alleen
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Joel
Joel

September 2nd, 2003, 10:19 pm #21

We like things being written here at Freedom to have real meaning. We don't want people reading things here that really are not true. If you have ever traveled around the Internet support sites for smoking cessation you would be amazed at how many people write that smoking is no longer an option only to be smoking a few days later. It becomes quite apparent that smoking was always an option for these people as it is for all of our members too. Se we just want to make it clear that smoking is indeed an option for any ex-smoker, just not one that a person would normally choose if truly considering the implications that would go along with it.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

September 12th, 2003, 9:02 pm #22

If you want to burn arsnenic and inhale the fumes, you can.
If you want to burn ammnia and inhale the fumes, you can.
If you want to inhale the fumes of hydrogen cyanide, you can.
If you want watch 4,000 chemicals destroy your body, you can.
If you want to live and die a chemical slave you can.
If you want to be afraid of recovering the real you, you can.
If you want to relapse to nicotine it will only take one puff
If you want to be you, you can
Only one rule ....
No nicotine today, Never Take Another Puff!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

November 22nd, 2003, 11:57 am #23


Relapse
One is too many and a thousand isn't enough!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

January 31st, 2004, 12:01 am #24

Why let obedience to nicotine's two-hour chemical half-life decide when your brain will next sense arrival of an unearned reward, a mood change or stimulation instead of allowing your reactions to life determine when specific neurochemicals next flow? What sense does a mandatory adrenaline rush make when trying to relax or before climbing into bed? What would it be like to go your entire day without once wanting for nicotine? There's only two choices, relapse or recovery and the choice is yours.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

March 1st, 2004, 5:07 am #25



It's time for the lies to end. It's time for honesty.
Smoking nicotine is always an option!
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Owlie65
Owlie65

March 3rd, 2004, 7:53 am #26

ty joel, i am really struggling today and not sure why. first spring day maybe i dont know :( this really helped :)

MK - Free and Healing for Sixteen Days, 17 Hours and 51 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 2 Days and 7 Hours, by avoiding the use of 670 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $88.80.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

March 24th, 2004, 8:02 am #27


Honesty dictates that nicotine relapse is always an option but not one normally chosen by those motivated and educated regarding their dependency. Why would I want a chemical's two-hour half-life inside my body in charge of when, now and where my life was spent? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!
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Roger (Gold)
Roger (Gold)

April 2nd, 2004, 12:54 pm #28

There are many options as we travel our journey through life. There is only one choice from an educated quitter.
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

June 3rd, 2004, 6:51 pm #29

Noni's Surviving Son & Husband
Try telling them smoking wasn't an option.
Please forgive them if they don't believe you!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

December 2nd, 2004, 12:34 am #30

Why let obedience to nicotine's two-hour chemical half-life determine when our brain will next sense arrival of an unearned and stolen reward (dopamine), a mood change (serotonin), or when our central nervous system will next be stimulated (adrenaline)? Smoking isn't an option you say? Oh absolutely, just one powerful puff or chew of nicotine and we'll awaken, revive and hand control back to our now arrested dependency. But we agree with your underlying intent, why would we want to again surrender control of our ability to feel and sense the neurochemical flavor of life? Why would we not want to go the distance and taste the quiet mind and amazing sense of calm up ahead?
What sense does it make to experience a nicotine induced mandatory central nervous system adrenaline rush when life's moment called for deep relaxation or before climbing into bed? Was that the real you? What sense does it make to reward ourselves with an "aaaahhhhh" sensation upon hearing that someone we love just died? What sense does it make to interrupt life's finest moments and memories so that we can go find a place to replenish our falling blood-serum nicotine level? Is that who we really were?
This can be one of the most eye-opening adventures in self-discovery we'll ever make if we'll only allow ourselves to see, feel and sense the beauty unfolding before us ... the gradually emerging beauty that is you! Victory over the next few minutes is all that matters and each minute is doable. Millions of words here at Freedom and www.WhyQuit.com but only one rule ... no nicotine today, Never Take Another Puff, Chew or Dip! John (Gold x5)
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

January 11th, 2005, 8:29 am #31

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forza d animo
forza d animo

January 27th, 2006, 9:47 am #32

Smoking is always an option, just not one I choose to take. I am free by choice not because I had no other option.

Joseph
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Joel
Joel

August 21st, 2006, 12:54 am #33

For Rob's wife. Things to consider when driving by a gas station of store that sells cigarettes:

Ex-smokers do always have the option to take a cigarette.
But there are only two legitimate reasons for taking a cigarette or a puff now.

1) You want to go back to full-fledged smoking until it cripples and kills you.

or

2) You enjoy withdrawal so much you never want it to end.
If this is the case just take one puff every third day,
withdrawal will last forever.

If neither of these options sound appealing to you the only option you have to avoid either of these states is to
never take another puff!

Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

December 23rd, 2006, 1:44 pm #34

Please don't think badly of us!

We know that we fully understand the intent behind a number of well meaning and commonly used recovery mantras. But as smokers we were lied to by so many for so long (including ourselves and our own rationalizations) that we now start with just one rather simple question - is it true?

From pseudo placebo clinical trials to store cigarette flavor ads suggesting lungs have grown taste buds, we're not here to villify or make anyone feel badly but we must continue to seek truth. One of the neatest things about this group is its rich history of re-examining its own beliefs and never being afraid to make public amends when wrong.

Breathe deep, hug hard, live long Freedom!

John (Gold x7)
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Crystal View1.ffn
Crystal View1.ffn

December 25th, 2006, 12:04 pm #35

Awesome Video. Thanks Joel! "I needed that". AHHHHHH the gift of not having to go through quiting again.

Katie - After 40 Years! Free and Healing for Two Years, Two Months, Seven Days, 14 Hours and 3 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 47 Days and 3 Hours, by avoiding the use of 13576 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $2,806.28.
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