Toast (GOLD )
Toast (GOLD )

April 28th, 2002, 9:57 am #11

Dear Joel,

You're right - this one's pretty scary too! But it also has one of my favorite stories of yours - the "I DIDN'T NEED A HOUSE TO FALL ON ME TO TELL ME TO QUIT SMOKING" story. Amazing!

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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

June 3rd, 2002, 4:27 am #12

What Has Smoking Done to Your Arteries?
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Joel
Joel

June 3rd, 2002, 11:38 pm #13

For Marebear:

Figured you might as well scare the next crave right out of you too--even before you get it.

Joel
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Joel

July 15th, 2002, 6:40 pm #14

There are a number of physical, emotional and social adjustments that people go through when quitting smoking that can make life seem quite awkward when people are in the early stages of a quit. But consider the alternative--continuing to smoke and and giving cigarettes the opportunity to follow the natural course of slowly destroying you and literally risking your life and limbs. To continue on the road to physical and psycholgical health as opposed to the course you were on of total self-destruction always remember why you have committed to never take another puff!

Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

August 15th, 2002, 9:26 pm #15

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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

August 29th, 2002, 9:15 am #16

Clearly this isn't our foot but it really someday could be!
This is Buerger's Disease is a condition where there is a complete
cutoff of circulation to the finger or toes, resulting in gangrene.
The ironic thing is that smokers think of smoking's harms in terms
of their lungs when in fact more of us die from smoking related
circulatory disease than from lung cancer. How's your circulation?
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

September 24th, 2002, 7:46 pm #17

New Study (Abstract) [/size]
Smoking and plasma homocysteine
European Heart Journal
Volume 23, Issue 20, 15 October 2002, Pages 1580-1586
P. O'Callaghan, R. Meleady, T. Fitzgerald, I. Graham and European COMAC group

The Adelaide and Meath Hospital Dublin, incorporating the National Childrens Hospital and Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland

Revised 21 January 2002; accepted 23 January 2002. Available online 19 September 2002.



Abstract Background Smoking is known to be associated with an increased plasma homocysteine level. Both are associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease. B-vitamins modulate plasma homocysteine levels.

Aims To investigate the relationships between smoking, plasma homocysteine, nutrient levels and risk of cardiovascular disease.

Methods The European Concerted Action Project case control study of 750 cases and 800 age- and sex-matched controls aged less than 60 years from 19 centres in 10 European countries.

Results Smokers were at increased risk of vascular disease. This risk was greatly increased in the presence of a raised plasma homocysteine; cigarette smokers with a plasma homocysteine above 12 mol . l-1 had a 12-fold increased risk of cardiovascular disease (OR 12·4 95% CI 7·3 to 21·2) compared with non-smokers with a normal plasma homocysteine. In both cases and controls the current smokers had a higher plasma homocysteine level than the never smokers (11·7 mol . l-1 vs 10·07 mol . l-1, P<0·05 cases; 9·90 mol . l-1 vs 9·53 mol . l-1P value non significant controls). Current smokers tended to have lower levels of folate, and vitamin B6 and vitamin B12 than never smokers. The risk of cardiovascular disease associated with smoking was not significantly altered by adjustment for levels of B-vitamins using a conditional regression model (OR for current smoker >20 . day-1 8·19, after adjustment for B6, B12, folate OR 7·09).

Conclusions This case control study suggests that smokers with high plasma homocysteine are at greatly increased risk of cardiovascular disease and should therefore be offered intensive advice to help them cease smoking. They also have reduced levels of those B-vitamins (folate, vitamin B6 and vitamin B12) that modulate homocysteine metabolism. While this finding may reflect a direct effect of smoking or reduced B-vitamin intake, supplementation of these nutrients may be appropriate in smokers with high homocysteine levels.

Author Keywords: Homocysteine, smoking, vitamins, cardiovascular disease
Copyright © 2002 The European Society of Cardiology. Published by Elsevier Science Ltd.
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Joel
Joel

September 24th, 2002, 8:18 pm #18

Just to make sure that everyone reading the above story really comprehends the message of the above article--it is that smokers need to quit smoking. An active addict can often read an article like this and think that now they have found out why smokers have more heart disease, and now they can simply take a pill and offset the dangers. The article "A Safer Way to Smoke?" addresses this issue head on. The cardiovascular effects of nicotine and carbon monoxide are firmly understood and known established risk factors. The only way to get these two substances down to non-smokers levels and to keep them down is to never take another puff!

Joel
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ALONETEARDROP
ALONETEARDROP

November 19th, 2002, 9:42 am #19

I turned bronze today...i now go days without thinking of a smoke. How have i done it? one day at a time, utilizing the tools i discovered on this web site, posting instead of picking up. Im having surgery in a little over 3 weeks. Why? One of the arteries in my rt leg is completely obstructed. Now i wonder how that happened??? Duh??? I wanted to quit long before i did. When i found out i needed surgery, i just couldnt rationalize smoking anymore. I am freeeeeeeee!
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Joel
Joel

February 14th, 2003, 8:58 pm #20

I thought in honor of valentines day I would highlight the importance of giving yourself the gift of a healthy heart. As this string clearly shows, the assault that smoking takes on your heart and circulatory system is powerful and life threatening. More people die from heart and circulation conditions caused by smoking than from any other diseases caused by smoking including cancer. This is an often overlooked fact by many people. The way to keep a healthier heart that permits you to really share your life with all of your loved ones is to always stick to your commitment to yourself to never take another puff!

Joel
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February 28th, 2003, 8:58 am #21

For Alex:

Just reading or hearing the truth is no guarantee that a person is going to believe or continue to believe the truth. It's amazing what lengths people will go through to continue to smoke and what kind of losses will continue to mount--eventually resulting in the total loss of health and possibly even life all because some people will not accept the premise that to stay smoke free they must never take another puff!

Joel

See the comment above, "I DIDN'T NEED A HOUSE TO FALL ON ME TO TELL ME TO QUIT SMOKING." to illustrate that point.
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March 28th, 2003, 8:56 pm #22

Smoking Boosts Stroke Type Linked to Brain Bleed
Thu Mar 27, 5:29 PM ET


NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A smoker's risk of stroke due to bleeding in the brain goes up with the number of cigarettes smoked, and those who smoke more than a pack a day have twice the risk of this type of stroke, U.S. scientists reported Thursday.

About 20 percent of all strokes are known as hemorrhagic strokes because they are caused by an uncontrolled bleeding either in or just outside the brain. Doctors have long known that smoking increases the risk of the most common type of stroke, known as ischemic stroke. Ischemic strokes are caused by a blocked blood vessel and make up 80 percent of stroke cases.

Now the new study shows that a smoker's risk of hemorrhagic stroke is on par with their risk of ischemic stroke, according to the report in Stroke: Journal of the American Heart Association.

"Our findings suggest that a person who continues to smoke can dramatically control their risk of stroke by modifying how much they smoke or by choosing to not smoke at all," said Dr. Tobias Kurth, of Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School in Boston, in a statement.

In the study, Kurth and colleagues looked at data from the Physicians' Health Study, a large ongoing study of more than 22,000 male doctors.

During 18 years of follow-up, 139 men had hemorrhagic strokes, either due to massive bleeding in the brain or bleeding just outside the brain.

While "never smokers" and past smokers had similar rates of hemorrhagic stroke, those men who smoked fewer than 20 cigarettes a day had 1.65 times the risk of such strokes. Those who smoked more than 20 cigarettes a day, equivalent to one pack, were twice as likely to have a hemorrhagic stroke.

"Our results add to the multiple health benefits that can be accrued by abstaining from cigarette smoking," the researchers conclude.

SOURCE: Stroke 2003;34.
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Txgranny (Gold)
Txgranny (Gold)

May 8th, 2003, 4:20 am #23

Thanks Joel and John,



This answers a lot of my questions. I cannot believe the stress I put myself and my body through because of addiction to nicotine. After almost two years I am still learning more about health effects caused by smoking and I'm horrified that I actually paid thousands of dollars to do this to myself!!!!!!



Txgranny

nicotine free since 05/11/01
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

May 8th, 2003, 4:53 am #24


Me neither Txgranny. Great to see ya again and hope we're both around for many decades to come : ) My sister quit and embarked on getting healthy. I guess I should follow her lead. Still just one rule for both of us - NONE !
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CanadaBobGold
CanadaBobGold

June 17th, 2003, 11:55 pm #25

While sitting here waiting for the surgeon to phone with the date of my second femoral (leg) artery bypass operation, thought I'd throw in my own story on this subject.

It didn't happen overnight; in fact, I can probably look back more than five years and see the gradual, very gradual at first, difficulty in walking long distances. Not sure what was causing the problem, I kept on smoking and tried to ignore the problem. If you ignore it long enough, it will just go away on it's own, right? :-)

By the time I reached the end of the smoking road on New Year's eve the effects of 37+ years of abuse of my body were becoming very evident. A chronic smoker's cough, the inablity to walk even one city block, the lack of energy to perform even the smallest household tasks.

Unwilling to even consider seeking medical advice or evaluation until I'd quit smoking, the results of the first rounds of tests were encouraging, except in the circulation category. My lungs were clear, no heart trouble, moderate blood pressure and even my cholestorol levels were normal.

The surgeon I was referred to gave me three choices:

(1) do nothing (except never smoke again) and the lack of circulation in my legs wouldn't get worse
(2) exercise regularly and vigourously, including as much walking as I could handle and my endurance would increase to the point where I could walk a full city block
(3) submit to artery bypass surgery and have at least an 80% chance of a successful outcome for five years or more

At age 52, and desiring a much better quality of life than I was "enjoying", the third option was the obvious choice. The surgeon was very pleased with the outcome of the operation on the totally blocked artery in my left leg, and is ready to work on the right leg as soon as I'm ready.

I'm ready; in fact I couldn't be readier. It's time to get on with my new life without restrictions and enjoy the years (many, I hope) that I've got left.

5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours smoke-free
5507 cigarettes not smoked
$2367.67 CDN saved
2 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours of my new life saved
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

December 28th, 2003, 11:29 pm #26

A Heart-Loving-Heart
by Dr. Banerjee, Cardiologist
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June 23rd, 2004, 3:45 am #27

Rare Disease Leads To
Local Man's Leg Amputation
ChannelCincinnati.com
8:33 p.m. EDT June 21, 2004 - A local man will have his leg amputated Tuesday because of a little-known disease that was born from a well-known addiction.
Nicotine in cigarettes is the only known cause of Buerger's Disease, which has caused Walter Panke's big left toe to turn black, WLWT Eyewitness News 5's Brian Hamrick reported Monday. Other toes in his left foot are dying as well.
"It started in the tip of my toe, and it's been working its way back," he said as he showed Hamrick his discolored bare foot. "I only smoked for seven years."
Now, Panke doesn't have to smoke tobacco to have a reaction. There's so much nicotine in some tobacco plants that all he has to do is touch the leaves or walk into a smoke-filled restaurant. In such instances, he could suffer a reaction so severe that he might have to have the other leg amputated, Hamrick reported.
The reaction inflames the interior of blood vessels, which causes clotting, and eventually cuts off blood flow to the extremities. And the narrowing of the vessels cannot be reversed.
"It can go all the way up your legs," said Panke's father, Dr. Thomas Panke. "It can also involve your arms. This goes far beyond legs. It can cause very serious problems, and can lead to your death."
There's no test for Buerger's Disease, and unfortunately, most are like Panke in that they only find out they're susceptible after the disease has progressed far beyond pain, Hamrick reported.
Panke's leg will be amputated just below the knee.
Copyright 2004 MSNBC.com
Thanks Nora for bringing this story to the group!
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January 15th, 2005, 12:12 am #28


Smoking Cessation and Mortality from Cardiovascular Disease among Japanese
Men and Women: The JACC Study.
American Journal of Epidemiology 2005 January 15;161(2):170-9.

Iso H, Date C, Yamamoto A, Toyoshima H, Watanabe Y, Kikuchi S, Koizumi A, Wada Y, Kondo T, Inaba Y, Tamakoshi A.

Department of Public Health Medicine, Graduate School of Comprehensive Human Sciences, University of Tsukuba, Tsukuba-shi, Japan.

To examine the effect of smoking cessation on cardiovascular disease mortality in Asians, the authors conducted a 10-year prospective cohort study of 94,683 Japanese (41,782 men and 52,901 women) aged 40-79 years who were part of the Japan Collaborative Cohort Study for Evaluation of Cancer Risk (JACC Study). During 941,043 person-years of follow-up between 1989-1990 and 1999, 698 deaths from stroke, 348 from coronary heart disease, and 1,555 from total cardiovascular disease occurred in men and 550, 199, and 1,155, respectively, in women.

For men, the multivariate relative risks for current smokers compared with never smokers were 1.39 (95% confidence interval (CI): 1.13, 1.70) for stroke, 2.51 (95% CI: 1.79, 3.51) for coronary heart disease, and 1.60 (95% CI: 1.39, 1.84) for total cardiovascular disease. The respective relative risks for women were 1.65 (95% CI: 1.21, 2.25), 3.35 (95% CI: 2.23, 5.02), and 2.06 (95% CI: 1.69, 2.51), with larger excess risks for persons aged 40-64 years than for older persons.

The risk decline after smoking cessation occurred for coronary heart disease and total cardiovascular disease within 2 years and for total stroke after 2-4 years. For each endpoint and in both age subgroups of 40-64 and 65-79 years, most of the benefit of cessation occurred after 10-14 years following cessation. Findings imply the importance of smoking cessation at any age to prevent cardiovascular disease in Japanese.

PMID: 15632267 [PubMed - in process]
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divegal808
divegal808

February 26th, 2005, 3:42 am #29

i can drop in so rarely now but i always quickly spot something special i want to contribute. for those who weren't around for my story, i was by all other appearances a "healthy" smoker (with my 1/2 pack of "no additive" cigarettes, almost no coughing, could swim a mile at a time, etc.) BUT i was always colder than most people. my hands and feet were especially cold.

three months after i quit my body temperature became average, and most noticeably my hands and feet are normal.

though my lungs MAY have been okay, i have no doubt that quitting literally saved my circulatory system and therefore many years of healthy life.

everyone reading this -- have no doubt, nicotine kills. and there's only one solution -- NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF.

aloha,

amber - approx. 9.3 months
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joyousAnaisfree
joyousAnaisfree

July 20th, 2005, 7:32 am #30

I have to chime in here and add my two cents. For years, my hands and feet were cold to the touch. This progressed to my entire body. My entire body would go ice cold. I was "healthy" in all other respects. I did not know enough to make the connection between this and smoking. Since I've quit smoking, I no longer have this problem. My body temperature is normal to the touch and I am never unusually cold any more.

My husband is quite pleased. ;>

Ana - free from nicotine slavery for 124 days, while adding 8 Days and 15 Hours to my life , by avoiding the use of 2490 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $375.49 better spent on nice things for myself and those I love.
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Joel
Joel

August 10th, 2005, 8:10 pm #31

The news media this week is going all out on covering lung cancer, due to the recent death of Peter Jennings and now the announcement of Christopher Reeve's widow, a non-smoker, of getting diagnosed with lung cancer.



You can hear the angst and frustrations of many in these reports as to why there are not better diagnostic tests and treatments for lung cancer. Hopefully there will be one day, but no person should hang their hopes high that a diagnostic test or a cutting edge treatment that will save most lung cancer victims is just around the corner.



The best chance we have today to greatly reduce the number of new cases of lung cancer and to reduce the death rate from lung cancer is to get people to not smoke. No smoker should lose sight of this.



One other important issue needs to be mentioned here. If somehow miraculously someone came up with a magic cure for lung cancer that was immediately available today--the majority of people who are dying from smoking would still die. Lung cancer is not the disease that causes the most premature deaths from smoking. Cardiovascular deaths still out number lung cancer deaths, plus there are a slew of other conditions that smokers die prematurely from other than lung cancer.



The only way to minimize your chance of dying prematurely from all smoking induced illnesses is to make and stick to a personal commitment to never take another puff.



Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

January 13th, 2006, 12:02 pm #32


Smoking Among Adults: Coronary Heart Disease and Stroke
  • Coronary heart disease and stroke-the primary types of cardiovascular disease caused by smoking-are the first and third leading causes of death in the United States. More than 61 million Americans suffer from some form of cardiovascular disease, including high blood pressure, coronary heart disease, stroke, congestive heart failure, and other conditions. More than 2,600 Americans die every day because of cardiovascular diseases, about 1 death every 33 seconds. (p. 363)
  • Toxins in the blood from smoking cigarettes contribute to the development of atherosclerosis. Atherosclerosis is a progressive hardening of the arteries caused by the deposit of fatty plaques and the scarring and thickening of the artery wall. Inflammation of the artery wall and the development of blood clots can obstruct blood flow and cause heart attacks or strokes. (p. 364-365)
  • Smoking causes coronary heart disease, the leading cause of death in the United States. Coronary heart disease results from atherosclerosis of the coronary arteries. (p. 384, 407)
  • In 2003, an estimated 1.1 million Americans had a new or recurrent coronary attack. (p. 384)
  • Cigarette smoking has been associated with sudden cardiac death of all types in both men and women. (p. 387)
  • Smoking-related coronary heart disease may contribute to congestive heart failure. An estimated 4.6 million Americans have congestive heart failure and 43,000 die from it every year. (p. 387)
  • Smoking low-tar or low-nicotine cigarettes rather than regular cigarettes appears to have little effect on reducing the risk for coronary heart disease. (p. 386, 407)
  • Strokes are the third leading cause of death in the United States. Cigarette smoking is a major cause of strokes. (p. 393)
  • The U.S. incidence of stroke is estimated at 600,000 cases per year, and the one-year fatality rate is about 30%. (p. 393)
  • The risk of stroke decreases steadily after smoking cessation. Former smokers have the same stroke risk as nonsmokers after 5 to 15 years. (p. 394)
  • Smoking causes abdominal aortic aneurysm. (p. 397)
Citation

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The Health Consequences of Smoking: A Report of the Surgeon General. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, Office on Smoking and Health, 2004.


Smoking remains the leading cause of preventable death and has negative health impacts on people at all stages of life. It harms unborn babies, infants, children, adolescents, adults, and seniors. Source Document: http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/sgr/sgr_2004 ... eets/3.htm
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Joined: January 16th, 2003, 8:00 am

March 3rd, 2006, 2:21 am #33

For Jo, who was smart enough to quit.

From above:
One condition though stands out as being truly unique and in many ways, demonstrates the real addictive nature of nicotine better than any other cause. The condition is known as Buerger's Disease (thromboangiitis obliterans.) Buerger's Disease is a condition where there is a complete cutoff of circulation to the finger or toes, resulting in gangrene.

The most common age bracket that this disease strikes is in people between the ages of 20 to 40, normally young to get circulation problems that result in amputations. While it is much more common in men, women are affected to. What makes Bueger's Disease unique is that it is a disease that is basically exclusive to smokers. There are almost no documented cases of this disease happening in a non-smoker. Smoking is the primary etiologic factor. This is a rare disease, but noteworthy because of this unique nature of happening only in smokers.

If a smoker gets lung cancer, the person and other people can sometimes think, "well non-smokers sometimes get lung cancer too, maybe cigarettes didn't cause it." Same thing with heart attacks or strokes, non-smokers get them too, smokers just get them much more often. But again a certain level of denial can be exhibited and there is no way to conclusively prove that cigarette did it. But Buerger's Disease, having no other known cause and basically never happening in non-smokers does not lend itself to such denials. When a doctor determines he or she is dealing with a Buerger's Disease patient, a basic ultimatum is going to be delivered-quit smoking or lose your limb-your choice! If we were dealing with simply a bad habit, how many people given such an ultimatum and knowing it is true would continue doing the particular behavior given such consequences?
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Jacqui672 Gold
Jacqui672 Gold

April 5th, 2006, 11:02 pm #34

Good stuff. Perhaps I'm imagining, but I swear my hands and feet are not blocks of ice anymore.
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April 14th, 2006, 5:53 am #35

The truth about smoking. Smoking ruins lives. Ours and our family's.
Never take another puff!
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