No Magic Here

Hillbilly(Gold)
Hillbilly(Gold)

9:21 PM - Nov 20, 2002 #1

I've been having the smoking dream on a regular basis the past few days. I'm not sure why, but I'm getting used to it. I awaken after such dreams with a sinking feeling that goes away pretty quickly now, but I still reflect on my quit as I lie there afterwards.

In a way, these dreams are good. They let me experience relapse without actually doing it. Most of us have relapsed in the past and know what a terrible feeling it is to have lost a quit of any length. The depression, despair, disgust that follow a relapse are the price we pay for a moment's lapse in concentration. Each time I wake after dreaming of relapse I am reminded of why I don't want to ever smoke again.

I was lying in bed this morning after another such dream and reflecting on the numerous changes in my life in the last seven months. I love being able to stay in bed for a few minutes after waking. Smokers are unable to do that--they must rise immediately to feed the addiction, no lolling around in bed, lazily greeting the morning for them!

What I was thinking about this morning was that cold turkey quitting really works. It's a lifestyle change and it's not an easy one, but lifestyle changes never are, and they're never popular because no one makes any money from them.

Permanent weight loss requires a lifestyle change, a permanent alteration in our diet. Fad diets are lucrative because they're popular and they're popular because they offer quick fixes to a chronic problem. They don't work because there are no quick fixes. Overweight persons don't get that way overnight and diets don't work that quickly, either. Golf manufacturers make a fortune selling new clubs and gimmicks that will cure a slice because golfers don't want to make a lifestyle change that includes practice--they want to "buy a swing".

It's the same way with smoking. There is no cure for nicotine addiction. There is no magic pill or patch or gum or shot that will make our problem go away. The only thing that makes our problem go away is abstinence from nicotine and that's a tough withdrawal to get through. No one makes any money from nicotine abstinence and cold turkey quitting is not popular because smokers think it's too tough.

I watch newcomers here searching for the magic solution to their problem. That's human nature and I don't criticize that search. Those of us who have been quit a little longer know that it's not magic and never will be. It is one day after another of just not smoking today. It that sounds simplistic, it's because it is. It really is that simple. Just do not smoke today. There's no money to be made from that approach, but it is the one that works.

If you're thinking about quitting or if you're in your first few days or weeks of a quit, please know that it really is simple. Simple does not mean easy, it means uncomplicated. There are no magic bullets, just one day after another of not receiving nicotine into your body.

I wish I could somehow show you how my addiction looks to me at seven months. It is so different than it was at seven days or even seven weeks. Quitting is hard but it's not impossible and comfort is not that far away. Just don't look for any magic, look into yourself and you'll find the answer. If the answer is that you have the desire to quit, then look into the library and you'll find the ammunition you need.

This is way more than enough for one day, but as for me--I'm not going to smoke today.

Dave

I don't smoke and I don't chew and I don't go with the girls that do. Seven months 2 days 10 hours, with an extra $1,041.51 in my pocket. Somewhere there are an extra 7,574 smokes.
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SammymnGOLD
SammymnGOLD

11:59 PM - Nov 20, 2002 #2

Beautifully and completely said. So much so, I'll only add my hallelujah!
, Sarah (engaging in the practice of quitting for 4 Months 2 Weeks 2 Days 10 Minutes 35 Seconds. Cigarettes not smoked: 2780. Money saved: $592.17).
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Toast (GOLD )
Toast (GOLD )

3:31 AM - Nov 21, 2002 #3

Dag'gum thar, Hillbilly. Did you go off'n get y'all some edumacation er what? Havin' all them high fallutin' philomasophical thoughts .... they's real purty!

Wonderful!

You can't climb a mountain and have the same view from every step. When we first quit, we see the top of that mountain as so high and so very far a way, it can seem quite daunting. But really, all we need to see to get there is the path right in front of us, one step at a time.

Raising my jelly jar to ya, buddy!

Melissa
2 days shy of a year and a half
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freefromit GOLD
freefromit GOLD

4:06 AM - Nov 21, 2002 #4

What a wonderful post, Dave! Ours is a society that seems to want instant results, everything a "quick fix", super-speed and super-sized....and Instant Gratification takes too long!
The first few days and weeks of my quit, time really seemed to drag by, but now it's back up to normal speed and I'm still just taking it one day at a time.The benefits I felt from becoming a non smoking, however, outweighed the discomfort of withdrawal right away. I love lying in bed in the morning (especially after a smoking dream) knowing that I did not smoke yesterday, and I don't have to smoke today, either! Thank you for some good Mountain Man Wisdom!~~~Marie 2 months 5 days
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Parker GOLD
Parker GOLD

4:11 AM - Nov 21, 2002 #5

Another good one, Dave!
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Jordan(Silver)
Jordan(Silver)

4:32 AM - Nov 21, 2002 #6

Well said Hillbilly!

gena (double-green) two months, two weeks, and two days
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janetd (GOLD)
janetd (GOLD)

5:45 AM - Nov 21, 2002 #7

Great post, Dave! I had a lot of smoking dreams around the same time in my quit. I put my money on you!

yqs, Janet
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Puh(BRONZE)
Puh(BRONZE)

6:07 AM - Nov 21, 2002 #8


Ulrike
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Tulip GOLD
Tulip GOLD

8:05 AM - Nov 21, 2002 #9

 Doggone Hillbilly, you sure do make a lot of sense. As fer the smokin dream - I ain't had one of them thar yet.

I agree 100% with what you said. It's human nature to want a quick fix, an instant solution, immediate relief etc. no hard work involved. Well, in everything worth having hard work is required. There is no magic cure, no instant fix. Quitting smoking for me has been a job - One Day at a Time, baby steps, whatever it takes to get to where I am today. Thanks for the reminder

Tulip - 2 months 1 week 2 days
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OBob Gold
OBob Gold

12:44 PM - Nov 21, 2002 #10

Great post Dave!

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David Gold
David Gold

1:06 PM - Nov 21, 2002 #11

Great post Dave. It's such a simple concept that I never seen it and it was right there all along. Just don't smoke. How simple is that? I tried every other way except the way I thought would be to hard. This is the easiest way by far. Anything can help you quit for a few days but it's the mental fight that begins after a few weeks that they don't have an answer for. Thanks for the perspective.

David
4 months +
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RIVERDOGgold
RIVERDOGgold

2:36 PM - Nov 21, 2002 #12

No Magic?? Ok.....who is NO FUN. Dave you would probably write a "How Harry Houdini did it" book, or, or.........yell out the secret right in the middle of a David Copperfield show....all kidding aside...
Truth be told, of course you are SOOOO right.
I'm even a pharmacist and I can attest to the fact how badly folks want an easy and quick fix.
You should see the look on their face that to lose weight, if I were to suggest THEY EXERCISE.........WHAT?!! NO PILL?????
Or how bout to lower cholesterol, perhaps try MODIFYING YOUR DIET (EAT LESS FAT :) you would think I was a stand-up comedian....."ha- ha - ha....no seriously....ya got a pill dont cha???"
It is almost ludicrous in the year 2002 to suggest COLD TURKEY smoking cessation........but I try to offer a little education when the oppertunity presents itself.
Sadly all too often I simply feel ill equipped to battle the input from our society regarding the "quick-fix" mentality.
Many days I just could myself as one of the lucky ones and go on my merry way.
VERY NICE TO HEAR FROM YA, HILLBILLY,
Sincerely, Mike : )
4 months+
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janetd (GOLD)
janetd (GOLD)

2:45 PM - Nov 21, 2002 #13

Relative to the Great American Smokeout, I read an advertisement today, indicating that our chances of quitting cold turkey were next to none. The advertiser was a drug store and the products were nicotine patches and gum.

For many of us, quitting Cold Turkey is the best and only way!

Regards, Janet
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Tellmeemore Silver
Tellmeemore Silver

2:53 PM - Nov 21, 2002 #14

 Gosh., Ive never had one of thoes cigarette dreams like everyone talks about,what causes it. ? I sure hope I never experance one.. now since I thought about it ill probably have one tonight, your friend Billie(tellmeemore) 2 mo 5 days 2 hrs 41 min 58 sec. felling kind of silly tonight ,dont know why unless its because I know ill never smoke again,
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Toast (GOLD )
Toast (GOLD )

2:11 AM - Apr 18, 2003 #15

memories ....
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Hillbilly(Gold)
Hillbilly(Gold)

11:59 PM - Sep 12, 2003 #16

I started to reply to a post on the board this morning from a member in a crisis when I thought something sounded familiar about what I was trying to say. Went back and found this.

It's not that I'm lazy, it's just that I have a hard time coming up with anything new to say.

Well, maybe I'm a little lazy.

 Dave

I don't smoke and I don't chew and I don't go with the girls that do. 1 Year 4 Months 3 Weeks 4 Days 14 Hours 59 Minutes 21 Seconds, with an extra $2,242.73 in my pocket. Somewhere there are an extra 17941 smokes.
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Golddabler1
Golddabler1

12:15 AM - Sep 13, 2003 #17

Hi hillbilly
You might have brought up an old post of your,s,the post may be old but the inspiration is as relevant and golden to day as it was back then.
Rickdabler 6 months 3 days 13hrs happily nicotine free.
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freeCirce903
freeCirce903

5:42 PM - Sep 13, 2003 #18

I quit so recently - I'm not even sure how to tally up the days! Do I count from the moment of that last cigarette or just starting with the first day when I didn't smoke at all? At this point - I'm not even looking at an entire day at once, just taking each moment as it comes. Somehow, my sense of time seems a bit distorted, but not in an entirely bad way. The cravings often feel longer than they really are - a few minutes can seem like a glimpse of eternity, but then it's gone in a heartbeat. I've been nicotine free for almost a week and counting! The "one day at a time" days are adding up quickly. There's no magic - but the more experienced quitters seem willing to share more than a few good tricks to keep the addicted mind at bay until it's completely free...
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Hillbilly(Gold)
Hillbilly(Gold)

7:08 AM - Feb 19, 2004 #19

We have a lot of seven week quitters and that's a tough stretch in the process, too. The feeling that the pain of quitting should already be over is very common, and the temptation to chuck it all is very real.

I'm here to tell you that even seven weeks is not not what it feels like to be comfortable. Sure, it's better than seven days, but trust me, even better days are coming.

You're almost there, don't give up yet. Just one day at a time of not receiving nicotine into your body.

 Dave

I don't smoke and I don't chew and I don't go with the girls that do. 1 Year 10 Months 21 Hours 7 Minutes 20 Seconds, with $2,939.48 more in my pocket. Somewhere there are an extra 23515 smokes.
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wackylaurie
wackylaurie

7:39 AM - Feb 19, 2004 #20

Thanks Hillbilly,

I am at 7 weeks not feeling very comfortable at all. I believe in all you golden oldies though. I believe that one day I will be FREE!

Laurie
One month, two weeks, three days, 11 hours, 28 minutes and 39 seconds. 1454 cigarettes not smoked, saving $199.97. Life saved: 5 days, 1 hour, 10 minutes.
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kattatonic1 gold4
kattatonic1 gold4

6:56 AM - Apr 26, 2004 #21

Now how did I miss this one? Great post Hillbilly! We've all ordered too many pizzas that are free if not delivered in 30 minutes, I do believe.

A wise friend once told me that the concert pianist is not the one that dreams the hardest about the stage, the lights, the audience, or even the music. A concert pianist is the one who is willing to practice every day.

~ Kay ~
4+ Months
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Starshinegrl Gold
Starshinegrl Gold

2:20 AM - Jan 20, 2005 #22

haven't read this before ... but so true! Thank you, Hillbilly!!

Gitte
54 days and a bit
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Pryde65 GOLD
Pryde65 GOLD

2:32 AM - Jan 20, 2005 #23

Love this one too...I see Hillbilly Dave is getting alot of "air-time" lately...glad to see it. Always a good read and always on the mark.

Thanks!!!

Sue -Free for Four Months, Six Days, 15 Hours and 2 Minutes, living an extra 14 Days and 7 Hours, didn't smoke 4116 cigs, and saving $868.96.
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Joined: 8:00 AM - Jan 16, 2003

3:01 AM - Apr 05, 2006 #24

From above:

I watch newcomers here searching for the magic solution to their problem. That's human nature and I don't criticize that search. Those of us who have been quit a little longer know that it's not magic and never will be. It is one day after another of just not smoking today. It that sounds simplistic, it's because it is. It really is that simple. Just do not smoke today. There's no money to be made from that approach, but it is the one that works.

If you're thinking about quitting or if you're in your first few days or weeks of a quit, please know that it really is simple. Simple does not mean easy, it means uncomplicated. There are no magic bullets, just one day after another of not receiving nicotine into your body.
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ChurnedSue
ChurnedSue

9:01 PM - Apr 23, 2006 #25

It all lies within ourselves
NTAP
Thanks Dave
Sue
free for 3 months and 23 days
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