No Magic Here

David Gold
David Gold

November 21st, 2002, 1:06 pm #11

Great post Dave. It's such a simple concept that I never seen it and it was right there all along. Just don't smoke. How simple is that? I tried every other way except the way I thought would be to hard. This is the easiest way by far. Anything can help you quit for a few days but it's the mental fight that begins after a few weeks that they don't have an answer for. Thanks for the perspective.

David
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RIVERDOGgold
RIVERDOGgold

November 21st, 2002, 2:36 pm #12

No Magic?? Ok.....who is NO FUN. Dave you would probably write a "How Harry Houdini did it" book, or, or.........yell out the secret right in the middle of a David Copperfield show....all kidding aside...
Truth be told, of course you are SOOOO right.
I'm even a pharmacist and I can attest to the fact how badly folks want an easy and quick fix.
You should see the look on their face that to lose weight, if I were to suggest THEY EXERCISE.........WHAT?!! NO PILL?????
Or how bout to lower cholesterol, perhaps try MODIFYING YOUR DIET (EAT LESS FAT :) you would think I was a stand-up comedian....."ha- ha - ha....no seriously....ya got a pill dont cha???"
It is almost ludicrous in the year 2002 to suggest COLD TURKEY smoking cessation........but I try to offer a little education when the oppertunity presents itself.
Sadly all too often I simply feel ill equipped to battle the input from our society regarding the "quick-fix" mentality.
Many days I just could myself as one of the lucky ones and go on my merry way.
VERY NICE TO HEAR FROM YA, HILLBILLY,
Sincerely, Mike : )
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janetd (GOLD)
janetd (GOLD)

November 21st, 2002, 2:45 pm #13

Relative to the Great American Smokeout, I read an advertisement today, indicating that our chances of quitting cold turkey were next to none. The advertiser was a drug store and the products were nicotine patches and gum.

For many of us, quitting Cold Turkey is the best and only way!

Regards, Janet
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Tellmeemore Silver
Tellmeemore Silver

November 21st, 2002, 2:53 pm #14

 Gosh., Ive never had one of thoes cigarette dreams like everyone talks about,what causes it. ? I sure hope I never experance one.. now since I thought about it ill probably have one tonight, your friend Billie(tellmeemore) 2 mo 5 days 2 hrs 41 min 58 sec. felling kind of silly tonight ,dont know why unless its because I know ill never smoke again,
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Toast (GOLD )
Toast (GOLD )

April 18th, 2003, 2:11 am #15

memories ....
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Hillbilly(Gold)
Hillbilly(Gold)

September 12th, 2003, 11:59 pm #16

I started to reply to a post on the board this morning from a member in a crisis when I thought something sounded familiar about what I was trying to say. Went back and found this.

It's not that I'm lazy, it's just that I have a hard time coming up with anything new to say.

Well, maybe I'm a little lazy.

 Dave

I don't smoke and I don't chew and I don't go with the girls that do. 1 Year 4 Months 3 Weeks 4 Days 14 Hours 59 Minutes 21 Seconds, with an extra $2,242.73 in my pocket. Somewhere there are an extra 17941 smokes.
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Golddabler1
Golddabler1

September 13th, 2003, 12:15 am #17

Hi hillbilly
You might have brought up an old post of your,s,the post may be old but the inspiration is as relevant and golden to day as it was back then.
Rickdabler 6 months 3 days 13hrs happily nicotine free.
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freeCirce903
freeCirce903

September 13th, 2003, 5:42 pm #18

I quit so recently - I'm not even sure how to tally up the days! Do I count from the moment of that last cigarette or just starting with the first day when I didn't smoke at all? At this point - I'm not even looking at an entire day at once, just taking each moment as it comes. Somehow, my sense of time seems a bit distorted, but not in an entirely bad way. The cravings often feel longer than they really are - a few minutes can seem like a glimpse of eternity, but then it's gone in a heartbeat. I've been nicotine free for almost a week and counting! The "one day at a time" days are adding up quickly. There's no magic - but the more experienced quitters seem willing to share more than a few good tricks to keep the addicted mind at bay until it's completely free...
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Hillbilly(Gold)
Hillbilly(Gold)

February 19th, 2004, 7:08 am #19

We have a lot of seven week quitters and that's a tough stretch in the process, too. The feeling that the pain of quitting should already be over is very common, and the temptation to chuck it all is very real.

I'm here to tell you that even seven weeks is not not what it feels like to be comfortable. Sure, it's better than seven days, but trust me, even better days are coming.

You're almost there, don't give up yet. Just one day at a time of not receiving nicotine into your body.

 Dave

I don't smoke and I don't chew and I don't go with the girls that do. 1 Year 10 Months 21 Hours 7 Minutes 20 Seconds, with $2,939.48 more in my pocket. Somewhere there are an extra 23515 smokes.
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wackylaurie
wackylaurie

February 19th, 2004, 7:39 am #20

Thanks Hillbilly,

I am at 7 weeks not feeling very comfortable at all. I believe in all you golden oldies though. I believe that one day I will be FREE!

Laurie
One month, two weeks, three days, 11 hours, 28 minutes and 39 seconds. 1454 cigarettes not smoked, saving $199.97. Life saved: 5 days, 1 hour, 10 minutes.
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kattatonic1 gold4
kattatonic1 gold4

April 26th, 2004, 6:56 am #21

Now how did I miss this one? Great post Hillbilly! We've all ordered too many pizzas that are free if not delivered in 30 minutes, I do believe.

A wise friend once told me that the concert pianist is not the one that dreams the hardest about the stage, the lights, the audience, or even the music. A concert pianist is the one who is willing to practice every day.

~ Kay ~
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Starshinegrl Gold
Starshinegrl Gold

January 20th, 2005, 2:20 am #22

haven't read this before ... but so true! Thank you, Hillbilly!!

Gitte
54 days and a bit
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Pryde65 GOLD
Pryde65 GOLD

January 20th, 2005, 2:32 am #23

Love this one too...I see Hillbilly Dave is getting alot of "air-time" lately...glad to see it. Always a good read and always on the mark.

Thanks!!!

Sue -Free for Four Months, Six Days, 15 Hours and 2 Minutes, living an extra 14 Days and 7 Hours, didn't smoke 4116 cigs, and saving $868.96.
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Joined: January 16th, 2003, 8:00 am

April 5th, 2006, 3:01 am #24

From above:

I watch newcomers here searching for the magic solution to their problem. That's human nature and I don't criticize that search. Those of us who have been quit a little longer know that it's not magic and never will be. It is one day after another of just not smoking today. It that sounds simplistic, it's because it is. It really is that simple. Just do not smoke today. There's no money to be made from that approach, but it is the one that works.

If you're thinking about quitting or if you're in your first few days or weeks of a quit, please know that it really is simple. Simple does not mean easy, it means uncomplicated. There are no magic bullets, just one day after another of not receiving nicotine into your body.
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ChurnedSue
ChurnedSue

April 23rd, 2006, 9:01 pm #25

It all lies within ourselves
NTAP
Thanks Dave
Sue
free for 3 months and 23 days
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FoolishWorkinj
FoolishWorkinj

April 24th, 2006, 8:11 am #26

"It is one day after another of just not smoking today."

What is hard is living a new way.
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Mitzi499
Mitzi499

June 26th, 2006, 8:25 am #27

I just loved this - it's so pertinent and really raps our knuckles about thinking there should be a quick fix for everything. We are lazy about dealing with life, preferring to believe there must be an easy way to solve problems, instead of learning and applying knowledge to reach a solution.

Dave, as usual, has pointed out that all the wisdom we need is within ourselves. We just need to keep putting in the work required, apply the requisite amount of patience, and our dreams will become reality. There are no quick fixes - there is only life and how we choose to live it.

One day at a time makes perfect sense. That it doable for us all.

(And this one needs to go in my journal too, along with some other Hillbilly Classics. Some o' them thar darn hillbillies shore are purty wise. Thanks Dave.)

Maria - 68 days free after 38 years
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July 24th, 2006, 8:43 am #28

From above:

There is no cure for nicotine addiction. There is no magic pill or patch or gum or shot that will make our problem go away. The only thing that makes our problem go away is abstinence from nicotine and that's a tough withdrawal to get through. No one makes any money from nicotine abstinence and cold turkey quitting is not popular because smokers think it's too tough.
I watch newcomers here searching for the magic solution to their problem. That's human nature and I don't criticize that search. Those of us who have been quit a little longer know that it's not magic and never will be. It is one day after another of just not smoking today. It that sounds simplistic, it's because it is. It really is that simple. Just do not smoke today. There's no money to be made from that approach, but it is the one that works.

If you're thinking about quitting or if you're in your first few days or weeks of a quit, please know that it really is simple. Simple does not mean easy, it means uncomplicated. There are no magic bullets, just one day after another of not receiving nicotine into your body.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

April 26th, 2007, 10:54 am #29

I just had the opportunity to explain this exact thing to a couple folks.

an exceprt from Dave's original post:
"........It's the same way with smoking. There is no cure for nicotine addiction. There is no magic pill or patch or gum or shot that will make our problem go away. The only thing that makes our problem go away is abstinence from nicotine and that's a tough withdrawal to get through. No one makes any money from nicotine abstinence and cold turkey quitting is not popular because smokers think it's too tough."
Like Dave I too wish I could let folks who have not cleansed themselves of nicotine or who are just beginning to uncover the real person buried under the mountain of denial and rationalizations that come with nicotine addiction what it feels like to live as 'just me' naturally. It is simply wonderful... it feels like how my life was meant to be - should have been all along. Stay the course newbie. This road of recovery is Not always easy but as Dave says it is essentially simple, just ntap.... and live free.


Joe J
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Freein07
Freein07

April 26th, 2007, 11:15 am #30

Wow! Just read Dave's first post from 2002. We all want that magic bullet that will make life, and the hard stuff that comes with it, a breeze. In the end it all boils down to one day after another of not smoking. Can't get much simpler than that. Why did it take me 38 years to get here? Oh yeah! Denial!!



Ione

I have been quit for 3 Months, 2 Weeks, 5 Days, 20 hours, 14 minutes and 7 seconds (109 days). I have saved $702.99 by not smoking 1,757 cigarettes. I have saved 6 Days, 2 hours and 25 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 1/6/2007 12:01 AM
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whosthisitsmesilly
whosthisitsmesilly

September 24th, 2007, 6:23 am #31

I learned to stop smoking  a number of times  I always said it was, the staying stopped, that was the hardest.
But after reading and reading on this site and learning Never Take Another Puff was the answer to Staying stopped
  
Forgot the most important bit

I have been quit for 1 Year, 6 Months, 2 Weeks, 1 Day, 12 hours, 28 minutes and 43 seconds (564 days). I have saved £2,540.33 by not smoking 11,290 cigarettes. I have saved 1 Month, 1 Week, 1 Day, 4 hours and 50 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 08/03/2006 11:04

Cathy xx
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BillW Gold.ffn
BillW Gold.ffn

March 16th, 2008, 9:30 pm #32

Hi JuleBull:

As far as I know, Hillbilly (aka real name Dave) has never relapsed since his 2002 quit. He is an active member of an alumnus group, and I believe he is still off nicotine.

I quit in 2001. I am not the BillW who posted a year earlier and vanished.

Screen names get re-used, especially the simple ones, and we used to change them regularly to include our color group.

The rules of this group changed when there was a very public relapse of an 'oldbie', that shocked many of the members. That would have been about 2003. Since then, you do not get to relapse and rejoin. Since the managers have actual names and email addresses, that is enforcable.

Oh, and the oldbie who relapsed? He successfully quit again, and remained nicotine free until his very untimely death about 18 months ago.

Many of us have relapsed (not while Freedom members...) Its how you learn that the Law of Addiction is unbreakable. The only way to curcumvent it is to Never Take Another Puff.

(Now where have I heard that????)

YQB BillW Six years, one month, one week, 66839 cigarettes not smoked, saving $13,200.78. Life saved: 33 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 55 minutes.
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Hillbilly(Gold)
Hillbilly(Gold)

March 17th, 2008, 8:00 am #33

Just popped in and caught this. Don't know what JuleBull asked, but my friend BillW tells the truth--since April 2002 I have had no nicotine of any form.

To verify what I wrote so many years ago, there is no magic involved in quitting--just day after day of not taking nicotine into my body. It's simple, not easy, but simple.

I've said that so many times, but at this point in my quit it has actually become easy as well as simple. I no longer stress over my quit; it has become a part of me that will remain with me as long as I live.

Bottom line, you couldn't take a gun to my head and make me smoke. I just don't do that any more.

Dave
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November 1st, 2008, 6:53 am #34

From above:

I watch newcomers here searching for the magic solution to their problem. That's human nature and I don't criticize that search. Those of us who have been quit a little longer know that it's not magic and never will be. It is one day after another of just not smoking today. It that sounds simplistic, it's because it is. It really is that simple. Just do not smoke today. There's no money to be made from that approach, but it is the one that works.

If you're thinking about quitting or if you're in your first few days or weeks of a quit, please know that it really is simple. Simple does not mean easy, it means uncomplicated. There are no magic bullets, just one day after another of not receiving nicotine into your body.
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Joe J free
Joe J free

March 17th, 2010, 4:05 am #35

an exceprt from Dave's original post:
"........It's the same way with smoking. There is no cure for nicotine addiction. There is no magic pill or patch or gum or shot that will make our problem go away. The only thing that makes our problem go away is abstinence from nicotine and that's a tough withdrawal to get through. No one makes any money from nicotine abstinence and cold turkey quitting is not popular because smokers think it's too tough."
Like Dave I too wish I could let folks who have not (yet) cleansed themselves of nicotine, or who are just beginning to uncover the real person buried under the mountain of denial and rationalizations that come with nicotine addiction, see what it feels like to live as 'just me' naturally. Living FREE is simply wonderful... it feels like how my life was meant to be - should have been all along.
Stay the course newbie. This road of recovery is Not always easy but as Dave says it is essentially simple, just ntap.... and live free.



The smoking dream
  - pretty universal occurence and a normal part of our recovery.
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