Nicotine Free Quest is NOT Nicotine Free

Nicotine Free Quest is NOT Nicotine Free

John (Gold)
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

28 Jan 2003, 09:53 #1

New Quest Cigarettes are
NOT Nicotine Free
A host of new nicotine products are hitting the streets to play, prey and produce pay upon the chemical captivity of our brothers and sisters still in bondage. The newest entrant, Vector's Quest, takes advantage of hundreds of millions in NRT marketing that conditioned smokers to believe that they could gradually wean themselves off of nicotine by slowly stepping down their intake while using the nicotine patch, spray, gum, inhaler and lozenge, a game which recent studies have declared is not an effective means of cessation - (see Sept. 11, 2002 JAMA study - http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v288n10 ... 11973.html and November 2002 Health Affairs study - http://www.healthaffairs.org/1130_abstr ... n6/s24.pdf

The difference between Quest and NRT is that the nicotine addict gets to continue smoking while inhaling 10 milligrams of tar, 43 known carcinogens and over 4,000 individual chemical constituents, while playing the nicotine weaning game.

Yes, nicotine addicts now have three different packs of Quest that respectively deliver .6mg, .3mg and .05 mg of nicotine per cigarette, using tobacco from genetically engineered tobacco plants. It's amazing that Vector can claim that the pack containing .05 mg of nicotine per cigarette is "NICOTINE FREE" when it just flatly isn't true.

Does a cigarette containing .05 mg of nicotine carry the potential to induce relapse? In light of the youth dependency findings in the 2002 HONC study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract ) there is plenty of room for legitimate concern. Thousands upon thousands of nicotine addicts appear to have been able to sustain their nicotine needs while smoking Merit, Now, Carlton, Next, Cambridge, and Bristol, each of which fielded brands containing .1 mg of nicotine or less.

The companies official web site - http://www.questcigs.com/home.asp - contains the following:
WARNING: This product is NOT intended for using in quitting smoking. Quest is for smokers seeking to reduce nicotine exposure only.
There is only sure fire way to keep our healing and glory alive and each of us know that it involves one simple rule - Never Take Another Puff!

Nicotine-Free Cigarettes
Available in 7 U.S. States

Mon January 27, 2003 02:17 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Smokers who want the cigarette without the nicotine now have a product they can reach for on store shelves, according to a Monday announcement.
The company Vector Group Ltd. announced that it is now selling nicotine-reduced and nicotine-free cigarettes in stores in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Michigan.

The cigarettes are marketed under the label Quest, and are available in three varieties. Quest 1 has only 0.6 milligrams of nicotine, Quest 2 halves that amount, and Quest 3 contains only trace amounts of the addictive substance.

Company representatives report that the Quest cigarettes taste and smoke like other cigarettes.

They caution that the product is designed to help smokers cut back on nicotine, and not to quit smoking altogether.

"For years experts have agreed that nicotine is the addictive element that keeps nearly 50 million US smokers hooked on cigarettes," Dr. Tony Albino of Vector Group said in a statement.

"We believe that reducing the levels of nicotine in cigarettes--and eliminating it altogether in Quest 3--is a significant achievement, which could ultimately provide a major contribution to public health," Albino added.

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jht ... ID=2118207


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OBob Gold
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:58

28 Jan 2003, 10:34 #2

This just makes me sick to my stomach. If it contains nicotine, claiming that it is nicotine free is an out-and-out lie. How many people will lose their lives because of this lie. It's just sick.
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smokefreeJD Gold
Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:06

28 Jan 2003, 10:37 #3

I don't know what angers me more... the fact that they keep treating smokers like idiots by coming out with more money making products rather than just tell the truth, or the fact that I might have bought these things if I had never found this website. *shakes head sadly*

Jill
3 Months 3 Weeks 4 Days
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Sal GOLD.ffn
Joined: 16 Jan 2003, 08:00

28 Jan 2003, 10:41 #4

I'm with you O'Bob.
And furthermore, as little as a month ago I probably would've seen them as heaven sent! I'm one of the lucky ones...I found this site and got an education while lurking that convinced me that nicotine is addictive and that I am an addict and that I COULD quit and do it cold turkey and do it one day at a time and not be miserable about it!
Sal
Two weeks, one day, 19 hours, 41 minutes and 13 seconds.
316 cigarettes not smoked!
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John (Gold)
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

28 Jan 2003, 12:15 #5

January 27, 2003 - 5:22 pm

Experts, Smokers Debate Effects
of Low-Nicotine Cigarettes
By Leslie Olsen
News 8 Reporter
Indiana and six other states are now test markets for a new brand of cigarettes that claim to help smokers kick the habit. But do they really work? That depends on who you ask.

The cigarettes are called Quest. They are aimed at smokers who want to quit, and the idea is to help smokers wean themselves off addictive nicotine.

Quest comes in three nicotine strengths, with the lowest having only a trace of the addictive chemical. But a local lung doctor predicts Quest smokers will end up smoking more cigarettes.

Quest displays are appearing at Indiana tobacco stores and getting the attention of some smokers. "I think it would help me possibly lower my smoking cravings," said Joel Murray, a smoker.

That's the idea, says the maker of Quest. "We think the step-down approach of Quest, meaning the Quest One, Two, Three, offers a novel way for smokers to step down to a nicotine-free environment," said Bennett Lebow, CEO of Vector Tobacco.

Lebow says Quest One has 17 percent less nicotine than most light cigarettes. Step Two has 58 percent less nicotine and Step Three boldly says it is nicotine-free, although the small print admits to trace amounts.

Murray's willing to give it a taste test. "For something that's nicotine-free, it gave me what I wanted," he said.

Quest is virtually untested. A Supreme Court ruling no longer allows the FDA to regulate the tobacco industry. Vector Tobacco is funding research at Duke University but since it is paying, the American Lung Association of Indiana considers that research could be considered suspect.

"It's certainly not something our organization would recommend for smoking cessation or for use at all, quite frankly," said John Smith, American Lung Association CEO.

Lung disease specialist Dr. Homer Twigg at IU School of Medicine doubts the cigarettes will benefit smokers. "I think smokers will just compensate be smoking more to make up for the less nicotine cigarettes," he said. "Just reducing one factor is very unlikely to reduce lung cancer in general."

Tobacco store owner Scott Upton expects sales to take off. "I think a lot of customers right now are trying to quit," he said. "So when they see a new product like this sometimes they'll experiment with it."

The Quest cigarettes are comparable in price to name brand cigarettes. Tobacco Express is selling them for $2.70 a pack on sale this week. But Dr. Twigg says smokers may end up paying twice as much for them, because they may smoke twice as many of them.
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WillBe (Silver)
Joined: 07 Jan 2009, 20:16

28 Jan 2003, 12:43 #6

John, you are simply amazing.

I can't begin to think of how many people you have saved from this new foolish path.

I already feel guilty for not getting back on in time to thank people who reply to me before my posts get buried, and yet here you find the time to not only type out all this info but provide graphics, pics, links to the offending websites so that your lack of deceit is made bare ...

I too would have jumped at this product before I found this place, so again, thank you. Another pitfall avoided because I come here and I read the truth.

michael

One month, four weeks, 19 hours, 6 minutes and 51 seconds. 1175 cigarettes not smoked, saving $426.27. Life saved: 4 days, 1 hour, 55 minutes.
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

28 Jan 2003, 23:01 #7

I wrote the reply below to a person who became a member and the next day asked if any of our members considered or had experience with herbal cigarettes. I think the comment fits very well into this thread.



By the way, the only way to guarantee that you will never take another puff on a burning nicotine product is simply knowing to never take another puff!



Joel



The reply to herbal cigarette question:



Forget it. Taking a herbal cigarette with the idea that it is somehow going to help you quit smoking is pretty much the same concept as giving an alcoholic grape juice because it looks like wine to treat alcoholism--with one notable exception--grape juice is pretty much harmless--herbal cigarettes are in fact potentially dangerous as is any product that is burned and then inhaled into your lungs. Plus there are some issues which cigarettes being marketed as herbal or natural and still having tobacco in them. (see http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection ... ettes.html)


You are new here. You will quickly see we are not a group looking for quick fix gimmicks or an easy way out of smoking--people are here because they want to break their nicotine addiction and break their associated habits as well. They are here to improve their overall health and not pick up other dangerous habits in substitution for cigarettes.



I brought up a few strings that address the issue from a few different angles, and I do think we have a string somewhere on herbal cigarettes that I can't locate at the moment. If you want this quit to stick start working on the premise that the way to break your addiction and your associated habits is not by looking for a new product to inhale but rather by just knowing when it comes to smoking the way to end it is to never take another puff!



Joel



Related strings:


"A Safer Way to Smoke?"

Crutches to Quit Smoking
The Easy Way Out
Nicotine Vs. Marijuana
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OBob Gold
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:58

29 Jan 2003, 03:09 #8

There was an interview with the CEO of Quest on a cable news show yesterday. They made no clarification on the "nicotine-free" assertion. Made me cringe to think of some guy who's got a 7 year, uneducated quit going, thinking he can have one of these for nostalgic purposes, and finding himself shaving 15 years off his life in the process. And, then, imagining thousands more just like him.

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Sal GOLD.ffn
Joined: 16 Jan 2003, 08:00

29 Jan 2003, 08:25 #9

Today a person with a 4 year uneducated quit talked to me about the new "nicotine-free" cigarette. I told her that it was NOT nicotine free and related what I knew. She dismissed me with "They wouldn't be allowed to call it nicotine free if it wasn't". I hope that she doesn't try one.
ImageSal
Two weeks, two days, 17 hours, 24 minutes and 55 seconds.
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OBob Gold
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:58

29 Jan 2003, 09:46 #10

Sal,

It's written on the pack, and it's noted on their website. Here's the disclaimer from their site. Feel free to print it out, and show it to her, or refer her to their site:
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http://www.questcigs.com/home.asp


The government allows all sorts of leeway with respect to calling things free of something if the contents are below a certain level. Many people are surprised to learn that "Non-alcoholic" beer contains alcohol. Or that "caffeine-free" cola contains caffeine. Just in smaller amounts than their "caffeinated" or "alcoholic" counterparts.

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