New Perspectives at 6 months

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05 Jul 2002, 08:58 #11

OBob.......... Your post has kind of upset me a little bit.............hard to explain but i guess i kind of think of you as 'perfect' and 'healed' and 'over it'...........You post all the time and are always there for us and I see you as a role model....(kind of like "one day i will be just like Bob (and Kim and John and Grumpy etc etc...)" It is a reality check I guess about the nature of addiction and how we will never be safe. I just don't like to think of you struggling AT ALL after all this time. I am going to put some hugs in a jar and some love and some admiration and post it to you on behalf of all the newbies..........Next time a trigger hits you just open that jar and know see all the broken hearts you will have around you if you even DARE take a puff!!!! lol. A good lesson for all of us, thankyou for sharing......... Love Angelina FILTH FREE 1M1D....................  
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05 Jul 2002, 10:10 #12

Angelina,

Just want to make sure and differentiate between a "challenge" and a "struggle". There have been some challenging triggers, but I wouldn't characterize them as "struggles". Don't have much time.... middle of a bbq.... but I think it's an important distinction.

Challenges will always be there for the addict. But whether or not it becomes a struggle is, again, a matter of attitude.

Happy 4th!

Bob (10 hours to silver! )
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05 Jul 2002, 21:46 #13

Oh Oh OBob,

For once in my life I was going to be early for a party and if you don't have one soon I'm going to have to start without you...
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08 Jul 2002, 00:24 #14

Bob,
What a wonderful, thought provoking post. So happy to be aboard the SILVER LINER with you. NTAP!!!

Anna
6 months+
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08 Jul 2002, 08:52 #15

Thank you for taking the time to write that very eloquent message. I just quit smoking 5 days ago and I need articulate and experienced people like you to prepare me for what lies ahead. I appreciate it.

Lisa, 5 days of no nico!
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08 Jul 2002, 09:10 #16

OBob: Killer post.....it's important to know the truth about what a 6 months quit is really like. Honesty is important here as it is in all things and I'm sure Angelina realizes that you were trying to emphasize how you beat the triggers as opposed to how difficult the triggers were. Also that from the perspective of a 6 months quitter that they were way easier then for the newbie as well. I want to say too that I enjoy all your posts even if I can't get around and reply to all of them. But mark my words, I've printed off tons of stuff from this site for offline inspiration whenever I need it and rest assured alot of your inspirational words are included in the printing!

Thanks again for a radical post !

Peace,
Tatum

Been kicking Nicodemons Butt to the Curb For 2 Months 1 Week 1 Day 10 Hours . Cigarettes not smoked: 2083. Money saved: $260.44.
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09 Jul 2002, 03:31 #17

Bob,

Thanks for the great post. I really enjoy reading your posts. They always seem so very well thought out. I think I missed your silver party? If so, congrats!

Rosemary--Nicotine free for 4 Months 3 Weeks 6 Days 15 Hours. Cigarettes not smoked: 2952. Money saved: $738.12. Life reclaimed: 2 Wks 6 Days 12 Hrs 4 Mins 39 Secs.
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30 Aug 2002, 12:23 #18

To attitude...
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30 Aug 2002, 12:57 #19

Thanks Bob - I needed this
For a while today I felt like I could barely handle the craves and I live out in the country with no smokers around and > 10 min drive from the nearest store. So it is nice to know that eventually, even facing the temptation of an old smoking buddy is not that bad. Yes yes I'm a newbie doing the one day at a time thing but I can have the odd dream of being silver eh?
Take care
Gord
S&N free 6D22H
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30 Aug 2002, 16:52 #20

Well played Gord. Just know, One Day at a Time is for Everyone. Sure, it gets a lot easier, but ODAT is something that we can all, no matter how long it's been, fall back on. None of us ever has to worry about making it further than bed time. ****, that's not so bad.


YQB,

Bob (7m3w4d)
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20 Oct 2002, 21:33 #21

Bob,

I'm not going to go on too much here (otherwise I'll end up sounding like I'm indulging in some kind of hero worship ), but your post was magnificent! A **** fine read.

Not only were your scenes so evocative that they were worthy of a Raymond Chandler novel, but I could relate to them so well. There's a very large part of me who has appreciated the 'dive' aspect of life; those dark, smoke-filled bars with live music playing in the background, and I'm just beginning to learn that I can still appreciate all aspects of life without smoking. Your words, presented as the are by someone who has achieved Silver, are inspirational in two ways; they show that, primarily, life as an ex-smoker is an easy breeze, and they also show that, when the struggles do reappear, we can win those particular fights.

I was at a concert last night by a wonderful new(ish) band called Death In Vegas (not sure if they are known in the U.S. of A yet, but Mr Iggy Pop sang vocals on one of their singles). It was in a club called The Ocean in Hackney, North London. The atmosphere was perfect. I had a little bit of drink inside me, my best girl by my side, the band were in full swing and the music was soaring to the very top of the venue. The lights were moody and all, in all, I was in one of those states where the music just lifts you up and floats you away. Then, in front of me, two dancing girls both lit up, the ends of their cigarettes glowing redly in the gloom. For one momentary moment I had a small feeling of loss, as I would smoke so much during gigs, and then the smoke hit me full in the face. It was vile and, if anything, intruded on my perfect moment. I found myself trying to blow it back at them without their observance. And what I did observe was how they sucked that smoke in. It was with real furvour, their cheeks being sucked inward with the effort. That was pretty affecting, because my education made me think of the damage such eagerness must do. All in all, though, I was so glad when they finally finished their puffing and let me get on with enjoying the gig.

Still, it's always going to be there, around me when I am out and having fun, and I, like you, aim to make sure it remains something I observe but, hopefully, something I never participate in.

Cheers,

El Bob
1 Month 1 Week 3 Days 18 Hours 54 Minutes. 815 small wads of tobacco, bought, rolled within a rizla paper, placed up to the lips and smoked by someone else!
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20 Oct 2002, 22:11 #22

Where was this one hiding...I haven't seen it before...Great post! Thanks Bob.


~Roma healing for 3months
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10 Jan 2003, 09:02 #23

Seems we've had a lot of folks going silver lately. Just remembered this one from my own 6 month mark... reproduced in a more readable font below...





Meanwhile, on the left coast, OBob got his first real triggers in a while. They arrived in the form of my good friend who's visiting from Ireland. 2 years ago, he was quit, and I was smoking. Last year, he had relapsed (after like 4 months), and we were both smoking. We smoked all day and all night. Smoked inside and outside. Smoked when I collected him at the airport. Smoked when I dropped him off at the airport. Smoked all over the state of California, and briefly in Nevada.

I hadn't really thought much about it before he arrived this year. I suppose I should have expected it, but it had been so long since I had any substantial trigger. Straight away, at the airport, there was an offer of one. Sadly, the offer came from his 15 year old son (the last of his
children to capitulate to the addiction that's already gripped his mother, father, two 19 year old sisters (twins), and 20 year old brother.... fortunately, the 20 year old brother's been quit for over a year). First time in a long time I actually had a crave. Passed it off, made them smoke before getting in the car.

First few nights of the visit, few beers, the odd whiskey, and sitting across the table from my pal while he chain smokes in a seedy bar. More triggers. More victories. For a week now, relapse has been within arm's reach 24 hours a day for the first time since I quit. Each time the triggers hit, I roundly defeated them.

I've discovered a few things...

Triggers
6 months without nicotine doesn't make you immune to triggers. They're out there lurking. Dealing with them has proven to be a matter of attitude. I'm an ex-smoker. I know the price of relapse. I know the **** that lurks just beyond the first puff. I also know that I LOVE the freedom I've gained by quitting. I refuse to let a few moments of discomfort cost me my
freedom. It's too important. It's not that every trigger's been easy. There was a pretty good one one night. We're at the seedy bar, I'm sipping a beer, and my friend heads to the john. His lit cigarette is streaming smoke across the table. I'm alone with it. It was enticing in an evil sort
of a way. And, it was still enticing a few minutes later. Me, alone, a sturdy buzz, a beer, a lit cigarette, the atmosphere's right, band's playin' loud, dimly lit dive of a place, I've been here before, heck, the whole pack's lyin' on the table in front of me.


Sure, for several minutes, it was enticing. But, here's the difference between now and earlier in my quit. Attitude. Deep down, I knew I wouldn't capitulate. I knew that, while this was momentarily unpleasant, it was nothing in comparison to a) the horror of relapse, and b) the joy of freedom. I acknowledged that it was enticing. I acknowledged that there were "good" cigarettes in my past, and that some of them were in situations like this. Then, I reminded myself that I'd be sitting in front of my computer, burning my fingertips the next day, and the day after, and that I HATED those cigarettes. That I would be doing that for a long long time
into the future if I relapsed. It's the standard ONE = ALL postulate, one that's always true, and always very motivating. As I say, I knew deep down that there was no way on God's green Earth I was going to succumb, but reminding myself was an exercise I've trained myself to do anyway -- why take risks.

All in all, I reckon maybe 10 minutes of my night out was affected by the triggers. Out of about 3 hours. They didn't make me miserable, because I didn't make more of them than they were. The cigarette looked enticing, I wasn't going to smoke it for some very solid reasons, I rode it out, period. That's what I'm talking about with attitude here. I already know the outcome of any trigger situation, because I've realized that I control my hands and lips. As an addict, I've forgotten that in the past, but as a RECOVERED addict, I never allow myself to forget.... My body, my choice. It may look enticing, but it's poison. Ain't gonna inhale it. Oh, and after a week, the supply of triggers associated with my friend has pretty much run dry.

The Smell
Despite the fact that things have looked enticing on occasion, my former affection for the smell of cigarettes has pretty much vanished. I'm finding myself going out of my way to avoid it. I've been around it a lot lately, and it's disgusting. And, the breath that goes with the cigarettes, it's
been knocking me over. I used to smell like that!

The 15 year old
He's promised himself he'll quit when he goes back to Ireland. I've printed out the library. It was a HUGE disappointment when he got off the plane, and offered me a cigarette. I had always thought he wouldn't follow the rest of his family down that path. He's smoking a pack a day at the moment. I'm hoping we'll at least have a 15 year-old lurker in the next few weeks... maybe even a member. Most importantly, I'm hoping we'll have a 15 year-old ex-smoker. Fingers crossed.

The addiction
My friend is a soccer (football) fanatic. He could tell you every member of the 1962 Scunthorpe side, and he's not even a Scunthorpe supporter (okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little, but he COULD tell you the Reading side of '62). World Cup finals were on last week. Every goal is a BIG deal in soccer. And, yet, even on the really important matches, he missed several goals because he was outside smoking. Smoking rules his every hour. Yesterday, when I took them to San Jose, (a 45 minute drive), there was the "let's have a quick smoke first" to avoid prolonged withdrawal in the car. This morning, the issue of who showered first was determined by who was in the most pressing withdrawal.... "you go first, I'm gonna have a smoke." I watch the two of them, and realize... that was me 6 months ago.


Every 20 to 30 minutes. Up and out to another nicotine feeding. Standing outside, ostracized from the living room, sucking and blowing poisonous smoke from their mouths. It just blows me away to observe, as an ex-smoker, how much smoking DOMINATES a person's daily activities. The next feeding is always only a few minutes away. When you eat, when you bathe, when you watch TV, drive, go to a movie, stand in a queue, sleep.... all of it is ruled by the periodicity of nicotine withdrawal.

It's been a reinforcement of what I already know from my own experience. Rather than simply being a new set of unexpected triggers to challenge my quit, it's been real-life experience to edify my quit.

Watching, from a new perspective, how completely subservient my good friend and his son are to this addiction... it's given me new appreciation for the costs of smoking. I mean, my friend is one of the most independent people I've ever met. Beats to his own drum. Makes his own decisions, regardless of what people think. Answers to nobody..... which is what makes his servitude to his one master -- his addiction -- stand out so much. Nic says jump, he says how high. Nic tells him to poison himself, he says "how often." More frightening.... that was ME. I was that slave. No more. I'm free.


Celebrating my independence on this beautiful 4th of July. Gonna watch the fireworks tonight from my deck. A few hours after they're finished, I'll hit the hay, and wake up tomorrow to another day of freedom... and silver.

Bob (5 months, 4 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 41 minutes, 28 seconds)
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11 Jan 2003, 00:16 #24

Thanks Bob, I really enjoyed reading this post. It's sad to look at people letting nicotine run their lives when we know that we were once just like them. It makes me want to grab them and say "You can quit... let me tell you about Freedom."
Lilycat
5M 1W 2D
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12 Mar 2003, 04:22 #25

For the new silver quitters among us...
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11 Apr 2003, 01:45 #26

I'll take this as a late silver anniversary present from OBob...never saw this one before. Another OBob classic. Thanks!
YQS-
Lotus
Nearly 6000 cigarettes not smoked in my more than six months of FREEDOM...what do ya know about that!
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03 Jul 2003, 17:43 #27

Just in from the exact same club....nearly 1 year to the day....


..... Not even an issue tonight.... in fact, tonight I was discussing with one of the smokers, how I managed to quit. He seemed legitimately interested. In fact, he was asking me about this thing he'd heard of called "triggers". I, of course, explained everything I knew about "triggers". Time will tell.....
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04 Jul 2003, 00:41 #28

It has been awhile since I've been around. Hit the 6 mo mark w/o much fanfare. Then I read this. OBob, this has helped me more than you'll ever know. Isn't it funny how those triggers seem to appear out of nowhere? They're not unmanageable but there they are just the same. I must confess that my gin and tonic is a bit different without a smoke but is much tastier! Two of the other smokers in the family (a son and daughter) have seen the light and moved on. I'm still working on the 18 yr old. What a wonderful example I set for them, huh? Well, they see what it takes to quit. And truly, if I can do it, anyone can do it.

I count my blessings everyday that "glory week" is long past. I may have added a bit to my girth--but to breathe deeply everyday and not reek of tobacco smoke. Now that is truly a gift.

Didn't mean to get wordy. I've missed everyone--this post just proves how important it is to stay in touch and nurture our successes. Thanks, OBob.
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04 Jul 2003, 03:52 #29

What an incredible post! Thank you so much for sharing, this and all of your wonderful posts. Grace
Free for 7 Weeks 2 Days 4 Hours and 17 Minutes I have chosen to be nicone free 1023 times (my goodness that is a lot of cigarettes, yuk) and I have saved 217.39 which I am going to enjoy spending when my son and I go to the beach this summer!
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25 Sep 2003, 21:31 #30

This bump is for Marge, who is silver but feeling blue.
I can SO relate to this post. One of the things that I am most grateful for this year is that I have sent my nicotine secretary to the unemployment line for good. Every event of my day is no longer being scheduled by nicotine.

Lydia
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02 Sep 2004, 21:07 #31

Wow! I have never read this thread before. A very belated but very sincere thank you to our OBob. And thank you to Lynn for suggesting it in another thread today. What a beautifully written set of observations. Spot on.

~ Kay ~
Celebrating 8.something months of Freedom~!
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03 Sep 2004, 02:52 #32

Great post Bob ! Feels good to read that stuff ...

Never, ever taking another puff!

Pascal

I have quit nicotine for 3 months, 5 days, 2 hours, 46 minutes and 53 seconds (96 days)
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22 Dec 2004, 07:50 #33

I remember planning to respond to this thread a few days before the Fourth of July, as kind of an anniversary thing. See, this was the last major challenge I had on my way to total comfort. Funny thing was that, despite ending up at the exact same bar, with the exact same smokiness on the 4th, I totally forgot not only to think about smoking, but to even remember that it had even been an issue 2 years prior.

Anyhow, I noticed that a couple of people were having some tests at around 6 months, and thought I'd pop this up to see if they could relate.

Bob (35 months)
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30 Apr 2006, 22:11 #34

For Tallmama
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05 Jul 2006, 02:06 #35

Just found another little treasure from OBob, particularly special today, for this year's crop of silver quitters.

OBob, how was the bar this year???

Bonnie
Happily nicotine free for Two months, three days, 23 hours, 32 minutes and 54 seconds. A grand total of 1494 nicotine sticks not ingested, saving $508.15 of my hard-earned money. Life saved: 5 days, 4 hours, 30 minutes.
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