Pryde65 GOLD
Pryde65 GOLD

September 18th, 2004, 7:49 am #26

I am so grateful for finding this posting...it is exactly how I have been feeling tonight...like I am stuck in one huge craving. I began to worry about my first night out (tomorrow night) where my smoking friends would be there, and had been planning my own attack...drinking lots of water, staying proud of my progress, etc. but somewhere in my good intentions I got stuck in a huge crave right in the midst of plotting my attack. I know I have to face this first time out, I can't hide from it. Up until this point I had been feeling extremely strong. I need to keep that strength and confidence going.

Thank you keeping these older postings out there for us new quitters to browse through...this one really spoke to me today, and this gives me the confidence to keep searching when other triggers come up...my encouragement will be close at hand.

This is so very important to me.

P.S. I hope that by replying to this string, I'm not inadvertently bugging "all" members...I'm still new at this. I hope this is ok to do.

Sue

I have now stopped smoking for 4 days, 23 hours, 25 minutes, 27 seconds. That translates into 174 cigarettes NOT smoked, for a savings of $36.97! I have increased my life expectancy by 14 hours, 30 minutes, 48 seconds.
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Joel
Joel

November 24th, 2004, 2:32 am #27

In the beginning or a quit, just trying to think of something else is senseless advice. Your body may be in physical withdrawal and you are not going to think the physical urge away. In time though, when the thoughts for cigarettes are more from psychological triggers than from physical demands being made on the body, you can just think about something else. Just because you can though does not make it the optimal technique to use. This post explains the advantages of thinking of full-fledged smoking when the thought is triggered as opposed to trying to divert your smoking thoughts all together. The more you think about why you quit the more grateful you will always stay to the personal commitment you have made to never take another puff!

Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

January 4th, 2005, 8:16 pm #28

Bathing Fixations in Honest Light

Although a subconscious crave episode (triggered by encountering a time, place, event, emotion or activity during which you conditioned your mind to expect the arrival of a new supply of nicotine) will last less than three minutes, conscious thought fixation can last for as long as your ability to remain focused upon the thought.

In this insightful thread Joel invites you to use each each period of conscious fixation as a wonderful opportunity for honest reflection upon the underlying thought. Here are a few other Freedom threads inviting you to explore dependency rationalizations, minimizations or blame transference that if not addressed with honesty can infect a recovering mind.
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Joanne Gold
Joanne Gold

April 15th, 2005, 11:11 pm #29


.........So what about thinking about something else? Well, it's hard to think of something else that can deliver such pleasure as this magic memory. Even if they successfully think of something else and overcome that urge, they walk away from the moment with a sense of longing or sadness with what they have just been deprived of again.

So, what is an ex-smoker to do? Change the tactic. Instead of trying (often unsuccessfully) of something else, acknowledge the desire. Don't tell yourself you don't want one, you do and you know it. But remember there is a catch. To take the one you have to have all the others with it. And with the others, you have to take all the problems that go with "them." The smell, the expense, the embarrassment, social ostracization, the total loss of control, and the health implications. The health effects are the most serious of the implications considering they lead to slowly being crippled then death.

This is what to focus on when the thought of one creeps into consciousness, the package deal of smoking. Think about the hundreds of cigarettes that have to go with that first one weekly. Think about the thousands that go with that first one every year, or the hundreds of thousands that will go with it until it kills you. These are not exaggerated numbers. Do the math yourself; calculate how much you smoked in your lifetime and figure out how many more will be consumed if you didn't quit.........
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

June 7th, 2005, 7:15 pm #30

Part of what Joel wrote reminded me of a visual graphic BillW had put in a help reply several years ago. This is prpbably an appropriate place to re-emphasize the point BillW and Joel have made with this part of the original "Think about something else" post.

"This is what to focus on when the thought of one creeps into consciousness, the package deal of smoking. Think about the hundreds of cigarettes that have to go with that first one weekly. Think about the thousands that go with that first one every year, or the hundreds of thousands that will go with it until it kills you. These are not exaggerated numbers. Do the math yourself; calculate how much you smoked in your lifetime and figure out how many more will be consumed if you didn't quit." - Joel from above.

Bill W adds a great visual - His version of the Tobacco / Nicotine Doomsday Clock - "...You can have that one, and then another one and then hundreds and thousands and then (should you live so long) millions. Leave your quit meter running, and just read it differently: "I have been readdicted for 5 years, 6 months, 27 days, having smoked 67,543 cigarettes, costing $12,543 dollars, and stealing 1 month 3 weeks of my hopelessly addicted life."
I've decided to sell them, ...I'm calling them DeathMeters." - BillW

Need 'Just One'? - When you're fixating remember to think about something else - Think about them ALL. It's a package deal.
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My name is JoeJFree - 40 years a nicotine addict and gratefully now an X-smoker for 4 months, 27 days, 20 hours, 58 minutes and 37 seconds (147 days)
I've now reclaimed 20 Days and 12 Hours to live life as I choose!
NTAP!
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Joel
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February 19th, 2006, 9:43 am #31

I am not saying to look at cigarettes negatively, just look at them exactly as they really were. If you pull the whole spectrum of smoking into focus, you will be able to walk away from the "urge" with the attitude that you are glad you are not doing that anymore. You won't feel deprived you will feel grateful. The more you remember smoking the less you will think about a cigarette. In a sense forcing yourself to remember will help you forget. Not forget smoking, but the fantasy, the appeal of a nicotine fix. A nicotine fix was not worth smoking for while you were a smoker, you can bet it is not worth it as an ex-smoker with freedom to lose now as well as all the other implications that always went with smoking.

In summing up, I will say that not smoking will never seem as good as the fantasy of smoking. But smoking was never that good either. The fantasy is "one" with no side effects, and no loss of control. The reality though is a dirty, disgusting, and deadly addiction. See them for what they are and you will stop wanting them as much.

Again, it can't be said too often, you are fighting for your health and your life. To win this fight is no more complicated than just keeping your commitment enforced to never take another puff!

Joel
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whosthisitsmesilly
whosthisitsmesilly

March 25th, 2006, 8:57 pm #32

This is exactly what works for me.



I have been quit for 2 Weeks, 3 Days, 12 hours, 57 minutes and 33 seconds (17 days). I have saved £72.78 by not smoking 350 cigarettes. I have saved 1 Day, 5 hours and 10 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 08/03/2006 00:00

Cathy
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abtabbb
abtabbb

April 4th, 2006, 1:24 pm #33

I haven't been reading your writting much but you can be assured that now I will. I think you will be giving me real help. Thank you. I'm on day 14.
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NewLife011806
NewLife011806

April 6th, 2006, 10:56 am #34

This is EXACTLY correct. About ten days ago I actually drove up to a convenience store with the determination to buy a pack of cigarettes and smoke one cigarette. I had been "obsessing" over that one cigarette for so long that I told myself to just do it. But as I drove up to the store I realized that I was fooling myself to think I would stop at one cigarette, and I told myself that the only way I was going to allow myself to purchase cigarettes in that store would be to purchase a carton, with the full expectation that I was going to be smoking that carton. This brought back all the disgusting and debilitating memories of what smoking is really all about, whittled down that "fantasy" cigarette to what it is: A FANTASY, and put an end to the obsessing I had been doing over it. I never even parked the car in the parking lot. No sooner did I pull up to the store than I put my car in reverse and drove away from there, freed from the lie and the pull of my addiction to an extent I'd never experienced before then. My quit has taken on a whole new dimension since then and I am so enjoying my non-smoking, nicotine-free life!!!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

June 7th, 2006, 2:21 am #35

Think honestly about that best cigarette ever. Can you locate one memory? Do you have one now? If so, my guess is that it is either follows a rather lengthy period of having gone without smoking nicotine or is associated with some underlying wonderful memory that would have still been wonderful as a comfortable ex-smoker.

In all honesty, I can't count the number of times I looked down and the ashtray was full and the pack empty, yet I had no memory of having smoked them. Joel wrote a wonderful piece about actually challenging seminar participants who claimed to love smoking to identify all the "good" or "memorable" cigarettes they'd smoked that day. They'd come up with a few, the first in the morning, the one after lunch and maybe a couple of others. But then Joel would remind them that they  had a rather serious math problem on their hands. They'd claimed to be a pack-a-day smoker who loved smoking but if true had kissed their lover at least fifteen additional times every day without any memory of ever having done so.

Here Joel asks us to be honest with ourselves. For years we were forced to provide mental justification as to why we would smoke that next cigarette. As Joel says, it wasn't so much that we liked smoking but that we didn't like what happened when we didn't smoke. The ironic part is that the longer we were forced to go without a nicotine fix the more intense and memorable our eventual nicotine refueling was.

Don't hide from smoking fantasies but instead challenge and bathe each in honest light. Flavor, taste? There are zero taste buds inside human lungs. Relaxation? Nicotine is a central nervous system stimulant that makes the heart pound faster, that elevates blood pressure and perks the senses.

Stress relief? Nicotine is an alkaloid and stress an acid generating event which neutralized our reserves. All smoking nicotine did was relieve its own absence. The flat tire or other underlying stressful event remained untouched. We simply added the onset of early withdrawal to every stress event life threw our way. If it hasn't arrived yet you may be about to earn and realize an amazing sense of calm during crisis.

Challenge any lingering romantic smoking fixations. Sanity, dignity and self respect are important to all humans. We knew that each and every puff was destroying a bit more of our body's ability to receive and transport life giving oxygen. We knew that we were committing slow suicide by our own hand. We had no choice to fabricate sufficient justification for that next fix.

But now is time for honesty. In truth it didn't matter what line we fed our minds. We'd lost all choice on the day nicotine took control. We are true drug addicts whose brains had become permanently wired for nicotine. That next fix was mandatory regardless of the rationalizations we adopted.

Just one tiny rule determining the outcome for all ... no nicotine today! Yes you can, yes you have, yes you are!!

John (Gold x7)

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Joel
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June 26th, 2006, 8:05 pm #36

I am not saying to look at cigarettes negatively, just look at them exactly as they really were. If you pull the whole spectrum of smoking into focus, you will be able to walk away from the "urge" with the attitude that you are glad you are not doing that anymore. You won't feel deprived you will feel grateful. The more you remember smoking the less you will think about a cigarette. In a sense forcing yourself to remember will help you forget. Not forget smoking, but the fantasy, the appeal of a nicotine fix. A nicotine fix was not worth smoking for while you were a smoker, you can bet it is not worth it as an ex-smoker with freedom to lose now as well as all the other implications that always went with smoking.

In summing up, I will say that not smoking will never seem as good as the fantasy of smoking. But smoking was never that good either. The fantasy is "one" with no side effects, and no loss of control. The reality though is a dirty, disgusting, and deadly addiction. See them for what they are and you will stop wanting them as much.

Again, it can't be said too often, you are fighting for your health and your life. To win this fight is no more complicated than just keeping your commitment enforced to never take another puff!

Joel
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February 28th, 2007, 8:19 am #37

Again, it can't be said too often, you are fighting for your health and your life. To win this fight is no more complicated than just keeping your commitment enforced to never take another puff!

Joel
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EtherBunny73
EtherBunny73

November 14th, 2008, 7:03 am #38

This is a great thread.

Being honest with myself about what it's really like to smoke helped me protect my quit today.
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NoNic4Neal
NoNic4Neal

January 25th, 2011, 5:23 pm #39

This was a helpful post for today, my sixteenth day of freedom. I know I lost previous quit attempts to fantasizing about that perfect cigarrette. I just calculated that my last puff on that fantasy cigarette lead to 13,688 more cigarettes before gaining the strengh to quit again. This time I have Freedom and Why Quit on my side. No nicotine today.
Neal
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