If this is your first time quitting

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12 May 2002, 03:45 #11

Wow, just came accross this. It's funny because this has never been an issue in my mind, until recently. Just hearing others and talking to ex-quiters had me a little nervous (...which is good -keeps me grounded.) BUT, it was also very nice to run across this today. I needed just that little bit of encouragement and truth.
So, add me to the list!! - after 18 years of smoking I am a first time quitter at ....
4 Weeks 1 Day 16 Hours 5 Minutes 5 Seconds.
I will never go back. I will never take another puff. I will NEVER forget how hard it was to get here and how bad day 3 was. If I ever start to forget, I will look at my 'Diary' post to remind me.
There is NO crave that is worth going back to the beginning - today is too easy (in comparison to day 3) to throw it all away. No matter how bad I think it is - it's just one day, one hour, one minute, one second. It's not worth it.
-Rachel
............no thanks
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12 May 2002, 11:37 #12

Joel, I have smoked for twenty-three or twenty-four years. I quit Cold Turkey once for a week when I was in my early to mid-twenties. And then I kept quitting on the patch a couple of years ago but that was a complete joke; I rarely made it past a Friday night and I think the longest I went was 2+ weeks. So I do feel like this is my first time quitting.
When I was using the patch, I would put it on in the morning, and then pull it off so I could smoke when I got home a couple of hours later. Totally nuts!
I am so glad that I finally quit. Thank you for all of your help.
Janet
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16 May 2002, 19:27 #13

One man in my program last night was a 40 year smoker who had never tried to quit before. Thought he would benefit from this one.
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16 May 2002, 22:15 #14


Hi Joel:
I'm a first time quitter and my quit has been tough. No Way, will I go through that again.....
I would not understand how a person can quit and go back and quit and go back. To me that is PURE torture. But I haven't been there yet. I hope I never will be there. I will try my hardest to never do that......
In the meantime, I always said I was going to quit but never did and this time I said I was going to quit and I did. I will be strong and protect my quit and that's the best I can do.
Thanks for being there...
Judy
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17 May 2002, 00:44 #15

Yes, this is my first time quitting after smoking for 28 yrs. I plan to be successful and never go back. I am an addict and cannot take that one puff. Quitting hasn't been too bad for me, but I won't lie and say its easy either. I do have my moments in the evenings. But remember, it wasn't easy to become a smoker (I was nauseated, sick, dizzy, etc......) so why should it be easy to quit. To benefit from anything, you have to try your best. I'm doing my best and will succeed. I AM AN ADDICT AND WILL NOT TAKE THAT ONE PUFF!

Cat

I have chosen not to smoke for 1 Week 3 Days 22 Hours 54 Minutes 5 Seconds. Cigarettes not smoked: 416. Money saved: C$166.50. Life/Time saved: 4 Days 8 Hrs 3 Mins 54 Secs
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06 Jun 2002, 22:14 #16

Hi Joel,
I read sooo many places that the success rate for first time quitters is low and to top that off that cold turkey quitters have a lower rate of success.

If I hadn't found this site to teach me otherwise, I would have thought for sure that I was doomed to many attempts. I only want to quit once. I've posted this many times...it's too hard to do this more than once and I'm not sure I could do it again.

So, thanks for your help, support, encouragement and education that will help me to NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF.

Ruth
aka Blondie
27 days
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06 Jun 2002, 22:58 #17

Thanks Joel,

In the past I've watched so many people quit and start, over and over. I read also that to quit on your first try was probably not going to happen unless you have had a few tries.

For myself I'm glad this isn't so! I made my Green status last night and my quit hasn't been to hard. I look forward to working towards the Bronze and not having to worry about a CRASH AND BURN. I do believe if you want something hard enough, and have the proper learning tools anybody can be successful.

Thanks for all your information and thanks for this site that gives all of us ex-smokers the support we greatly appreciate when in need.

Catherine

"I'd rather be an ex-smoker who has an occasional thought about smoking than a smoker obsessing about quitting."
I am GREEN and I have not smoked for 1 Month 9 Hours 8 Minutes 29 Seconds. NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!






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22 Jun 2002, 11:50 #18

Thanks Joel!
I actually had no idea so many here are first time quitters! More power to them for starting here first! I also have to say that my previous quits were with NRT. So they really don't count since I was never really off the nicotine, right? So technically I never really relapsed cuz I was never ever off it. Since this is my first cold turkey quit, this would be MY first quit then, wouldn't it? In that case...
OFF COURSE YOU CAN DO IT THE FIRST TIME!!!!!!
Thanks Again!
Colleen
One month, two weeks, four days, 22 hours, 48 minutes and 10 seconds. 1498 cigarettes not smoked, saving $224.78. Life saved: 5 days, 4 hours, 50 minutes.
One is too many and a million is not enough!!
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22 Jun 2002, 20:09 #19

Hello Colleen:
You are right, since you never really got nicotine out of your system on those previous attempt you never actually ever relapsed. I have found the terminology people use when referencing NRT "quitting" quite interesting. They are big on still calling the first seven days on NRT **** week. Well if you followed my thoughts earlier this week on "**** week" (see post 13 in the string The Teaching of Conventional Wisdom at Freedom) you will see that first I don't really agree with the premise of the term "**** week" for most people--and for NRT users the whole concept is quite ridiculous.
They are not going through their peak withdrawal the day they stop smoking and start delivering nicotine via other routes of administration--they are potentially going through the peak withdrawals months later when they finally attempt to get off the product. In the interim they are staying in a moderate form of extended withdrawal, lasting from months if they follow the directions to years or decades if they simply continue on these products for such time periods.
I wouldn't say this is your first attempt at quitting though. Your intent each time slapping on a nicotine patch or buying and chewing a piece of nicotine gum was to quit smoking. I suspect your goal each time was not to transfer nicotine delivery, that your intent was to actually get off all nicotine eventually and that you were just looking for an easier way to do it. But this is where the fallacy of the concept of NRT comes into play--it doesn't make quitting easier--not in the long-run and contrary to popular opinion--it does not increase success but undercuts a person who really may have a true desire to quit.
By the way, for clarity sake, when I am using the term popular opinion here I am not only speaking of non-professional opinions--most professional groups, organizations and the people often considered the leading experts in smoking cessation will advocate the merits of NRT. It is hard for the average person to disregard advice that seems to come from so many people and respected organizations.
It is essential though for people who really want to quit to finally listen to their own instincts or, at least to listen to long-term successful quitters in their real world more so than listening to the literature. I often use the following analogy here to explain my views on the topic of NRT's perceived superiority.
Lets say I see a news report that says that a specific pill has been developed that has been proven to prevent colds in 100% of the cases of human trials. Soon it is published in a medical journal. Then another study verifies it. It is now released on a worldwide scale and the popular media proclaims that it is 100% effective. Now every expert in the world comes out and says colds no longer exist--the pill has eradicated them.
The problem is, most people I knew who took this miracle pill still got colds. Worse than that, I took the pill myself and all my friends on the pill with colds kept giving the cold to me. Pretty soon I would dismiss those studies and no matter how many times I see it I would not believe it. Sooner or later you have to believe your eyes, ears, basically, your own instincts more than expert opinion.
I always tell people not to take my word for the limitations of these products, but to go out into their real world and talk to long-term quitters. By long-term quitters, I mean talk to people who are off all nicotine for at least a year longer. Find out how all of these people who have been nicotine free for a minimum of 365 days in a row actually started their quit. These people are always amazed by the results of such real world surveys. In the vast majority of cases they will see that cold-turkey was the initial quit method. The reason for the quit may vary, but the technique will almost always be the same.
Occasionally they may come across an individual who did it by other means like by cutting down or NRT, but they will see that these people are by no means the norm--that for every person they find like this if they do find any at all, there will be multiples of people who went cold-turkey.
Talk to people you know and trust in your real world--family members, friends, co-workers, etc. People you knew when they were smokers, people you knew when they were quitting and people you now know as ex-smokers. People who are off nicotine long-term will usually be more than glad to share how they did it.
Again, I was careful how I worded the previous sentence--"people who are off nicotine," not, "people who are off smoking." People who are currently using NRT will often tout its merits--they are trying to rationalize their results to you as well as to themselves. But again, by the fact that they are still using nicotine or have only been off nicotine a short time, they have not clearly illustrated that they do in fact seem to have the staying power of staying off nicotine over the longer-term.
So if you go through the survey process of people you really know, stick with the criteria of people who are totally nicotine free for a year or longer. You will be amazed at the percentages who went cold turkey, and are now off smoking for a significant period of time because they have never take"n" another puff!
Joel
P.S. I had to vary that last line. Many people who quit on their own don't necessarily fully appreciate the concept of one puff equating to relapse. They have not taken one but in essence can still be at risk. The last group I just graduated had four people who were once ex-smokers for longer than a decade--one was actually once off over 20 years before having relapsed. As long as you are talking to your ex-smoking friends, don't assume that you have nothing to offer them information wise because they are off longer than you. You have a deeper understanding of the addiction than most people no longer how long they have been off. You should share that understanding with people you care about to help secure their quits over the longer-term by helping them to understand that to keep this quit going forever means understanding to never take another puff!
Joel
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19 Jul 2002, 20:18 #20

I saw where a new member was somewhat concerned because she has heard that you have to quit numerous times before a quit will take. Your first quit WILL be your last quit as long as you stick to your first commitment to never take another puff!

Joel
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13 Aug 2002, 01:02 #21

Joel, many times I read the statistics that many people quit smoking 3-5 times before it sticks. Don't remember where these figures came from. Quite frankly, I didn't care. I found that to be the perfect support for 2 failed quits. Proved I was just being normal. My little junkie mind was secretly plotting to try and fail 3 more times before I had to get serious about it! How fortunate that I found Freedom and discovered the "trick". Just never take another puff!

Parker - 2 month, 1 week, 3 days and counting......
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15 Sep 2002, 05:36 #22

I rode by a bus today that had a big sign on it from our State's Tobacco Control Program. Its message was that it takes the average smoker seven attempts to quit smoking. Underneath was some line about how it could take just one to succeed, but with no further clarification or elaboration.
I am not sure what they are thinking the message that it takes an average of seven times to quit is supposed to accomplish. Maybe it is to make a person feel better if he or she had failed six other times in the past. But what if a person has only quit four times, should he or she write off the next couple of attempts before they even start?
I personally think a simpler and much more effective message can be that whether you have quit dozens of times in the past or if this is your first attempt to quit, this quit can be the last one you will ever have to do as long as you know to never take another puff!
Joel
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27 Sep 2002, 22:38 #23

Joel,
This is my first time quitting and your so right you can do it in one shot! I lurked here at freedom for a year before I got up enough guts to quit. Your library and the posts made my mind up for me! As they say this IS do-able and anyone out there that is scared, do what I did, read for the first 3 days, then jump in and enjoy a new life that is the greatest! I think being afraid of quitting kept me from quitting for a year, but it turned out to be a boogeyman and nothing else.

So please join us here at freedom and you'll never regret it!

Rick
Four months, three weeks, two days, 2 hours, 37 minutes and 7 seconds. 11980 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,791.15. Life saved: 5 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes.
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28 Oct 2002, 11:57 #24

Quitting for the first time has a 100% success rate as long as you never take another puff.
Many never make it back after a relapse, and those that do, must endure the challenges associated with recovery. Some never get that chance to quit again. This would be one lesson better learned from someone else's mistake and not your own.
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28 Oct 2002, 22:41 #25

Today will always be the most
important day in the rest of our lives!
Nicotine is an addictive drug with zero intelligence!
Motivation, education, understanding and support
are powerful tools for change. As Joanne just said,
there is absolutely no reason why all of us, including you,
can not succeed in arresting our addiction today!
Just one little rule - no nicotine today!
NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!
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09 Dec 2002, 23:56 #26

I hope I am not too late to respond to this thread..

You will be happy to know that I am a first time quitter and till date it has been 52 days nic free for me.

The trick is to remember the rule. N.O.P.E. (Not One Puff Ever) and it is doable..



-r

Day 52 and grateful!
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30 Dec 2002, 08:10 #27

Read Angela's post 1 year and 7 months.
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27 Jul 2003, 04:49 #28

It is sadly amazing just how many websites of governments and major health organization are at this moment teaching new quitters not to worry about "cheating" or "slipping" (words that sugar-coat relapse).
They also teach them to expect it to take a specific number of stated quitting attempts before learning how to quit and stay quit. What they neglect to tell them - while implanting relapse expecations in their minds - are the lessons learned by attending the school-of-hard-quitting-knocks so that the quitter can succeed the very first time. What they fail to teach is the true power of that first puff of nicotine!







Just one rule - no nicotine today, Never Take Another Puff!
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06 Aug 2003, 10:36 #29

It really is doable on a person's first attempt. After 37 years and 350,000 cigarettes, I stopped cold on January 1st this year. At the time, the only motivation I had to stay quit was the knowledge that I'd be disappointing a lot of people who were aware of my quit.

Luckily I stumbled on Freedom from Tobacco less than a week into the quit and was able to pick up enough of an education into nicotine addiction to help me stay off smoking.

Later on, the cumulative physical damage caused by all the smoking started coming to the forefront and that was all the extra motivation I needed to never take another puff.

Not everyone will have the "luck" to latch onto the quitting aids that I did, but the bottom line applies to us all. No matter what happens, no matter how tempting, just keep reminding yourself that all the hard work of quitting and staying quit will go "up in smoke" with just one puff. And it really does get easier as time goes on. Hard to imagine at first, and even after seven and a bit months, it's still something that I think about at least a minute or two every day, but the days pass, the satisfaction grows and sooner or later the confirmed addict has transformed into confirmed ex-smoker.

7 months, 4 days, 8 hours
$3069.27 CDN saved
7139 cigarettes not smoked
3 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours of my new life saved
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05 Jan 2004, 23:25 #30

This is very encouraging for me as it *is* my first time. I know lots of smokers and most of them have tried and failed to stop smoking at least a couple of times. I guess after seeing that one naturally assumes that's the way it has to be.
This site has made an unbelievable difference. I have a whole armory of knowledge now; whenever I want a cig I think:
--No wonder I want it: nicotine releases fat, sugar, endorphins and neurotransmitters into my system. Of course my body wants it. But wouldn't it be nice if my supplies of these chemicals could flow naturally, without nicotine?
--When I see a person drag on a cigarette, about 90% of that smoke stays in their lungs. That's a lot of toxic sludge!
--My mind starts sending signals, *not* when my nic level is low, but before it gets low--it wants to maintain saturation. This is a brainwashed effect and it will go away eventually.

etcetera. I must say: the urge for a smoke is pitifully feeble compared with the force of my new knowledge.
Erica
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21 Jan 2004, 14:39 #31

For new readers just looking in who for the first time in their lives are seriosuly considering quitting .
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28 Aug 2004, 01:52 #32

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27 Oct 2004, 11:08 #33

You can quit your first time. You will hear lots of material to the contrary; that you have to quit over and over until it finally takes. It is a common misconception being perpetrated by many sites and even professional clinics and organization basically explaining why people quitting using such programs or approaches don't often seem to succeed.

The idea that you "can't" quit the first time is absolutely wrong. The only reason it takes most people multiple attempts to quit is that they don't understand the addiction to nicotine. How could they, no one really teaches it. People had to learn by screwing up one attempt after another until it finally dawns on them how each time they lost it, it happened by taking a puff. If you understand this concept from the get go, you don't have to go through chronic quitting and smoking.

So learn from other people's mistakes, not your own. Going through a quit once is bad enough, going through it over and over again is horrible and should be avoided at all costs. The way to avoid it is to always remember to never take another puff!.
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05 Nov 2004, 22:22 #34

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07 Nov 2004, 01:22 #35

One of my main reasons for being so strong in this quit is that withdrawal was so bad for me this time that I never want to have to do it again! This is only my second quit, but I know it will be my last because I will never take another puff!

Allyson - Free and Healing for Twelve Days, 15 Hours and 20 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 10 Hours, by avoiding the use of 126 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $51.53.
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