I smoke because I like the flavor

Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

06 Jun 2002, 02:23 #11

Image For people who feel like they are missing something. It is not a taste, it is not a smell--it is a drug fix plain and simple. The choice is yours and yours alone, you can feel that you are depriving yourself of something great and talk yourself into smoking or you can see cigarettes for what they are, a drug delivery system that is destroying you and then stay firm in your commitment to never take another puff!

Joel
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coldchicken (GOLD)
Joined: 07 Jan 2009, 19:12

14 Jul 2002, 09:22 #12

I had a freind who died of cancer, from smoking, had his voice box removed early on (after I had known him a few years)...he said he had lived a full life (he was 82) but the hardest part of knowing he was dieing because of smoking was because all of his friends "disappeared", they knew he was going to die of cancer and didn't know how to treat him so they "just didn't" keep in touch, that was 12 years ago, I lost a great friend and I am glad we always remained friends, I remember his son called me when he passed away, I had recently moved to the east coast, he was on the west coast...one of the last things he said was.," if there is such a thing as a guardian angel tell Tammy I will always watch over her"....I miss him today,wish he had valued his own life as much as I valued it! I just hope he is in a better place now.....
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John (Gold)
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

25 Jul 2002, 18:26 #13

Image

Flavor?

Even without a stoma, there are absolutely zero
tastebuds inside the human lung - none!



As for loving the flavor .......

... you're supposed to love it! Hundreds of millions of dollars has been invested by tobacco companies into flavor research that resulted in hundreds and hundreds of taste and smell additives being packed into cigarettes.
Below is a list of known (with many yet to be discovered) U.S. cigarette taste and smell additives. Imagine lighting your favorite perfume on fire, adding nicotine and then inhaling it. Imagine lighting your favorite food or flavor on fire and then adding nicotine and inhaling it. To make 4,000+ chemical compounds and 44 known carcinogens smell great while burning and taste great while destroying your lungs, heart, and mind what more could we ask for!
Imagine using urea in cigarettes as a flavor additive. It has been done and is still done today with some brands. The vast sea of pretty colored boxes on display behind the counter in stores are the result of tobacco companies being able to identify a group of nicotine addicts who prefer certain chemical flavor additives over others.
If you'd like to try and find out the primary additives in your brand go to your favorite search engine and type in your brand name + ingredients + cigarette. It works pretty well with www.google.com Keep in mind that for purposes of product secrecy some companies are now only revealing the "primary" additives. You may find a catch all phrase in small print, usually at the end, for the "minor" additives like urea Image
Acetoin
Acetophenone
6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
Acetylpyrazine
2-Acetylpyridine
3-Acetylpyridine
2-Acetylthiazole
Aconitic Acid
dl-Alanine
Alfalfa Extract
Allspice Extract
Oleoresin
And Oil
Allyl Hexanoate
Allyl Ionone
Almond Bitter Oil
Ambergris Tincture
Ammonia
Ammonium Bicarbonate
Ammonium Hydroxide
Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
Ammonium Sulfide
Amyl Alcohol
Amyl Butyrate
Amyl Formate
Amyl Octanoate
alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
Amyris Oil
trans-Anethole
Angelica Root Extract
Anise
Anise Star Extract and Oils
Anisyl Acetate
Anisyl Alcohol
Anisyl Formate
Anisyl Phenylacetate
Apple Juice Concentrate
Apricot Extract & Juice
1-Arginine
Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
Ascorbic Acid
1-Asparagine Monohydrate
1-Aspartic Acid
Balsam Peru and Oil
Basil Oil
Bay Leaf Oil and Sweet Oil
Beeswax White
Beet Juice Concentrate
Benzaldehyde
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
Benzoic Acid Benzoin
Benzoin Resin
Benzophenone
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Benzyl Butyrate
Benzyl Cinnamate
Benzyl Propionate
Benzyl Salicylate
Bergamot Oil
Bisabolene
Black Currant Buds Absolute
Borneol
Bornyl Acetate
Buchu Leaf Oil
13-Butanediol
23-Butanedione
1-Butanol
2-Butanone
4(2-Butenylidene)-355-Trimethyl
Butter Butter Esters & Butter Oil
Butyl Acetate
Butyl Butyrate
Butyl Butyryl Lactate
Butyl Isovalerate
Butyl Phenylacetate
Butyl Undecylenate
3-Butylidenephthalide
Butyric Acid
Cadinene
Caffeine
Calcium Carbonate
Camphene
Cananga Oil
Capsicum Oleoresin
Caramel Color
Caraway Oil
Carbon Dioxide
Cardamom Oleoresin Seed
Carob Bean and Extract
beta-Carotene
Carrot Oil
Carvacrol
4-Carvomenthenol
1-Carvone
beta-Caryophyllene
beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
Cassia Bark Oil
Cassie Absolute and Oil
Castoreum Extract Tincture & Absolute
Cedar Leaf Oil
Cedarwood Oil Terpenes & Virginiana
Cedrol
Celery Seed Extract
Cellulose Fiber
Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
Chicory Extract
Chocolate
Cinnamaldehyde
Cinnamic Acid
Cinnamon Leaf Oil Bark Oil & Extract
Cinnamyl Acetate
Cinnamyl Alcohol
Cinnamyl Cinnamate
Cinnamyl Isovalerate
Cinnamyl Propionate
Citral
Citric Acid
Citronella Oil
dl-Citronellol
Citronellyl Butyrate
Citronellyl Isobutyrate
Civet Absolute
Clary Oil
Clover Tops Red Solid Extract Cocoa
Cocoa Shells Extract
Coconut Oil
Coffee
Cognac White and Green Oil
Copaiba Oil
Coriander Extract and Oil
Corn Oil
Corn Silk
Costus Root Oil
Cubeb Oil
Cuminaldehyde
para-Cymene
1-Cysteine
Dandelion Root Solid Extract
Davana Oil
2-trans 4-trans-Decadienal
delta-Decalactone
gamma-Decalactone
Decanal
Decanoic Acid
1-Decanol
2-Decenal
Dehydromenthofurolactone
Diethyl Malonate
Diethyl Sebacate
23-Diethylpyrazine
Dihydro Anethole
57-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(34-D)
Dill Seed Oil and Extract
meta-Dimethoxybenzene
para-Dimethoxybenzene
26-Dimethoxyphenol
Dimethyl Succinate
34-Dimethyl-12-Cyclopentanedione
35- Dimethyl-12-Cyclopentanedione
37-Dimethyl-136-Octatriene
45-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-25
610-Dimethyl-59-Undecadien-2-One
37-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
24-Dimethylacetophenone
alphapara-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
alphaalpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
alphaalpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
23-Dimethylpyrazine
25-Dimethylpyrazine
26-Dimethylpyrazine
Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
delta-Dodecalactone
gamma-Dodecalactone
para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Ethyl Acetate
Ethyl Acetoacetate
Ethyl Alcohol
Ethyl Benzoate
Ethyl Butyrate
Ethyl Cinnamate
Ethyl Decanoate
Ethyl Fenchol
Ethyl Furoate
Ethyl Heptanoate
Ethyl Hexanoate
Ethyl Isovalerate
Ethyl Lactate
Ethyl Laurate
Ethyl Levulinate
Ethyl Maltol
Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
Ethyl Myristate
Ethyl Nonanoate
Ethyl Octadecanoate
Ethyl Octanoate
Ethyl Oleate
Ethyl Palmitate
Ethyl Phenylacetate
Ethyl Propionate
Ethyl Salicylate
Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate
Ethyl Valerate
Ethyl Vanillin
2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(35 and 6)
2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol 3-Ethyl -2
2-Ethyl-3 (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
4-Ethylguaiacol
para-Ethylphenol
3-Ethylpyridine
Eucalyptol
Farnesol
D-Fenchone
Fennel Sweet Oil
Fenugreek Extract Resin and Absolute
Fig Juice Concentrate
Food Starch Modified
Furfuryl Mercaptan
4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
Galbanum Oil
Genet Absolute
Gentian Root Extract
Geraniol
Geranium Rose Oil
Geranyl Acetate
Geranyl Butyrate
Geranyl Formate
Geranyl Isovalerate
Geranyl Phenylacetate
Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
1-Glutamic Acid
1-Glutamine
Glycerol
Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
Grape Juice Concentrate Image
Guaiac Wood Oil
Guaiacol
Guar Gum
24-Heptadienal
gamma-Heptalactone
Heptanoic Acid
2-Heptanone
3-Hepten-2-One
2-Hepten-4-One
4-Heptenal
trans -2-Heptenal
Heptyl Acetate
omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
gamma-Hexalactone
Hexanal
Hexanoic Acid
2-Hexen-1-Ol
3-Hexen-1-Ol
cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
2-Hexenal
3-Hexenoic Acid
trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Hexyl Acetate
Hexyl Alcohol
Hexyl Phenylacetate
1-Histidine
Honey
Hops Oil
Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
5-Hydroxy-24-Decadienoic Acid delta
4-Hydroxy-25-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
2-Hydroxy-355-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen
4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
Hydroxycitronellal
6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
Hyssop Oil
Immortelle Absolute and Extract
alpha-Ionone
beta-Ionone
alpha-Irone
Isoamyl Acetate
Isoamyl Benzoate
Isoamyl Butyrate
Isoamyl Cinnamate
Isoamyl Formate Isoamyl Hexanoate
Isoamyl Isovalerate
Isoamyl Octanoate
Isoamyl Phenylacetate
Isobornyl Acetate
Isobutyl Acetate
Isobutyl Alcohol
Isobutyl Cinnamate
Isobutyl Phenylacetate
Isobutyl Salicylate
2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
Isobutyraldehyde
Isobutyric Acid
dl-Isoleucine
alpha-Isomethylionone
2-Isopropylphenol
Isovaleric Acid
Jasmine Absolute Concrete and Oil
Kola Nut Extract
Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
Lactic Acid
Lauric Acid
Lauric Aldehyde
Lavandin Oil
Lavender Oil
Lemon Oil and Extract
Lemongrass Oil
1-Leucine
Levulinic Acid
Licorice Root Fluid Extract
Lime Oil
Linalool
Linalool Oxide
Linalyl Acetate
Linden Flowers
Lovage Oil And Extract
1-Lysine
Mace Powder Extract and Oil
Magnesium Carbonate
Malic Acid
Malt and Malt Extract
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltyl Isobutyrate
Mandarin Oil
Maple Syrup and Concentrate
Mate Leaf Absolute and Oil
para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
Menthol
Menthone
Menthyl Acetate
dl-Methionine
Methoprene
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
Methoxypyrazine
Methyl 2-Furoate
Methyl 2-Octynoate
Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
Methyl Anisate
Methyl Anthranilate
Methyl Benzoate
Methyl Cinnamate
Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
Methyl Ester of Rosin
Methyl Isovalerate
Methyl Linoleate (48%)
Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
Methyl Nicotinate
Methyl Phenylacetate
Methyl Salicylate
Methyl Sulfide
3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
6-Methyl-3-5-Heptadien-2-One
2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl)
5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
Mthyl-alpha-Ionone
Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
4-Methylacetophenone
para-Methylanisole
alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
2-Methylbutyraldehyde
3-Methylbutyraldehyde
2-Methylbutyric Acid
alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
Methylcyclopentenolone
2-Methylheptanoic Acid
2-Methylhexanoic Acid
3-Methylpentanoic Acid
4-Methylpentanoic Acid
2-Methylpyrazine
5-Methylquinoxaline
2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
(Methylthio)Methylpyrazine
3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
2-Methylvaleric Acid
Mimosa Absolute and Extract
Molasses Extract and Tincture
Mountain Maple Solid Extract
Mullein Flowers
Myristaldehyde
Myristic Acid
Myrrh Oil
beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
Nerol
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nerolidol
Nona-2-trans6-cis-Dienal
26-Nonadien-1-Ol
gamma-Nonalactone
Nonanal
Nonanoic Acid
Nonanone
trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
2-Nonenal
Nonyl Acetate
Nutmeg Powder and Oil
Oak Chips Extract and Oil
Oak Moss Absolute
Octadecadienoic Acid
delta-Octalactone
gamma-Octalactone
Octanal
Octanoic Acid
1-Octanol
2-Octanone
3-Octen-2-One
1-Octen-3-Ol
1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
2-Octenal
Octyl Isobutyrate
Oleic Acid
Olibanum Oil
Opoponax Oil And Gum
Orange Blossoms Absolute
Orange Oil and Extract
Origanum Oil
Orris Concrete Oil & Root Extract
Palmarosa Oil
Palmitic Acid
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
omega-Pentadecalactone
23-Pentanedione
2-Pentanone
4-Pentenoic Acid
2-Pentylpyridine
Pepper Oil Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute Mandarin Oil
Petitgrain Terpeneless Oil
alpha-Phellandrene
2-Phenenthyl Acetate
Phenenthyl Alcohol
Phenethyl Butyrate
Phenethyl Cinnamate
Phenethyl Isobutyrate
Phenethyl Isovalerate
Phenethyl Phenylacetate
Phenethyl Salicylate
1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
Phenylacetaldehyde
Phenylacetic Acid
1-Phenylalanine
3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
3-Phenylpropionic Acid
3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
Phosphoric Acid
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil Pine Oil Scotch
Pineapple Juice Concentrate
alpha-Pinene beta-Pinene
D-Piperitone
Piperonal
Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
Plum Juice
Potassium Sorbate
1-Proline
Propenylguaethol
Propionic Acid
Propyl Acetate
Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
Propylene Glycol
3-Propylidenephthalide
Prune Juice and Concentrate
Pyridine
Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
Pyrrole
Pyruvic Acid
Raisin Juice Concentrate
Rhodinol
Rose Absolute and Oil
Rosemary Oil
Rum
Rum Ether
Rye Extract
Sage Sage Oil and Sage Oleoresin
Salicylaldehyde
Sandalwood Oil Yellow
Sclareolide
Skatole
Smoke Flavor
Snakeroot Oil
Sodium Acetate
Sodium Benzoate
Sodium Bicarbonate
Sodium Carbonate
Sodium Chloride
Sodium Citrate
Sodium Hydroxide
Solanone
Spearmint Oil
Styrax Extract Gum and Oil
Sucrose Octaacetate
Sugar Alcohols
Sugars
Tagetes Oil
Tannic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Tea Leaf and Absolute
alpha-Terpineol
Terpinolene
Terpinyl Acetate
5678-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
1559-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo
2345 and 3456-Tetramethylethyl
2356-Tetramethylpyrazine
Thiamine Hydrochloride
Thiazole
1-Threonine
Thyme Oil White and Red
Thymol
Tobacco Extracts
Tochopherols (mixed)
Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
Tolualdehydes
para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
para-Tolyl Acetate
para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
Triacetin
2-Tridecanone
2-Tridecenal
Triethyl Citrate
355-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
paraalphaalpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
4-(266-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)
266-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-14-Dione
266-Trimethylcyclohexa-13-Dienyl Methan
4-(266-Trimethylcyclohexa-13-Dienyl)
226-Trimethylcyclohexanone
235-Trimethylpyrazine
1-Tyrosine
delta-Undercalactone
gamma-Undecalactone
Undecanal
2-Undecanone 1
0-Undecenal
Urea
Valencene
Valeraldehyde
Valerian Root Extract Oil and Powder
Valeric Acid
gamma-Valerolactone
Valine
Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
Vanillin
Veratraldehyde
Vetiver Oil
Vinegar
Violet Leaf Absolute
Walnut Hull Extract
Water
Wheat Extract And Flour
Wild Cherry Bark Extract
Wine and Wine Sherry
Xanthan Gum
34-Xylenol
Yeast
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

12 Aug 2002, 23:40 #14

Image = addiction
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

04 Sep 2002, 21:31 #15

I saw where the discussion of how a person could still smoke after finding out that they have a smoking induced cancer is shocking to people. This short piece tells it all--smoking has very little to do with taste or smell or any other sense--it has a whole lot to do with feeding a drug addiction. To avoid ever having to feed an active addiction again requires always remembering to never take another puff!

Joel
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Roma Bronze
Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:00

18 Sep 2002, 10:55 #16

I'm sitting here at my computer enjoying my cheese (nice ole aged cheddar) and crackers and I come upon this picture. This man. Smoking through his neck. ImageAnd I felt repulsed. I actually for a moment wanted to vomit. Image Good golly, a "perfect" example of addiction.

~Roma 2months+
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

18 Sep 2002, 11:01 #17

Sorry Roma:

I didn't want to make anyone sick with this...I just wanted everyone to recognize how sick a person's actions may become when caught in the iron clad grip of addiction. Just know to avoid ever getting caught in this grip again is as simple as knowing to never take another puff!

Joel
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Roma Bronze
Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:00

18 Sep 2002, 11:12 #18

Ohh Joel,

No apologies please. The picture speaks so much...the truth of an ugly addiction. I may just print it up and hang it...not on my refridgerator...but maybe on my bathroom mirror. Now that will wake me up in the morning. A real eye opener. Thanks Joel.

~Roma 2months+
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John (Gold)
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

27 Oct 2002, 06:54 #19

Image

Flavor?

Even without a stoma, there are absolutely zero
tastebuds inside the human lung - none!




Image
You smoke for the flavor, eh?
What does flavor have to do with smoking every 30 minutes?
Does it make any sense?
Well, it certainly does if you are a "real" drug addict.
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

30 Dec 2002, 00:23 #20

In the string I smoke because I am self-destructive, John put up a story about a judge who ruled that a woman was dying from lung cancer should be allowed to smoke in a nursing home, for she was simply treating her addiction. The exact words used in the ruling were "Her addiction is a medical problem and you will attend to the addict."
I think this string as well as the post I Smoke Because I Like Smoking! also tie into this story very well. For anyone who hung on to the idea that you smoked because you liked to smoke or just because you wanted to, know the real story. You were a drug addict who was being controlled by a lethal drug.
While a court system may be able to grant you the right to smoke, there is not a court in the world that can grant you the right to breath once your lungs are destroyed, or grant you the right to think once part of your brain is destroyed from a stroke, or grant you the right to live once your heart is destroyed from a cut off in circulation. Also, a court can't grant you the right to write or play the piano once your arms are removed, nor can a judge grant you the right to walk or run once your legs are gone.
So one smoker may feel a little bit safer today in Plainesville, Ohio, but not a single smoker should feel that somehow smoking is now safer. The only way that cigarettes are safe is when they are not used. A package of cigarettes sitting on a shelf with a huge price tag on it can do you no harm. A cigarette in your hand with a lighter in the other will end up costing you a fortune and eventually will likely cost you your health and your life. To keep yourself safe from the destructive properties of nicotine always stay focused on why you have decided to never take another puff!

Joel
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