I Know I Will Quit Again

JoeJFree Gold
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

26 Feb 2008, 03:19 #31

From: Joel Sent: 2/5/2007 10:16 AM
This is a situation that people who have an easy quit should be aware of. Some times quits go easy--really easy, and then the person assumes that he or she must not have really had an addiction. As it says in the string Every Quit is Different.:
It is possible that you won't have any major symptoms this time. I have had a lot of four pack a day smokers who smoked 40 plus years who toss them with minimal withdrawal. The reason they never tried to quit before is they witnessed people who smoked one fourth of what they did go thorough terrible side effects and figured, "If it did that to them, it will kill me." But when the time came, their quit was easy in comparison.
You may find that this quit will be relatively easy. Stranger things have happened. But if it does, don't think this didn't mean you were addicted. The factor that really shows the addiction is not how hard or how easy it is to quit. What really shows the addiction is how universally easy it is to go back. One puff and the quit can go out the window.
If a person has an easy quit, and then relapses down the line with the idea that it is no big deal, he or she will simply quit again, the person may be in for a real shock. The next quit may not be easy and in fact, the person may never be able to muster the strength to successfully quit again.

You don't know if you relapse that you will ever be able to quit again, but you should know that you will never have to worry about this risk as long as you continue to stick to your personal commitment to never take another puff.

Joel

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V
Joined: 03 Sep 2009, 00:42

03 Sep 2009, 16:06 #32

Thank you this thread helped. I am at just over 72 hours cold turkey, saying I can always quit again.
I must accept the fact I am addicted. All or nothing.
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hwc
Joined: 18 Jan 2009, 16:17

04 Sep 2009, 02:21 #33

I was on day 3 when I decided to quit smoking. Day 1 was a test to see if I could go 24 hours without smoking. The last time for me was when Nixon was President. I was pretty surprised that I the world didn't come to an end when I went 24 hours without nicotine. So I figured it must have been a fluke, and I'd try for day 2 to find out. When I got to Day Three, I knew that I could quit smoking. That, of course, was a little scary, but it was also exhiliarating. Kind of like walking out of prison, I guess. So, I simply said, that's it. I'm done. If I don't seize this moment when I've already got two days in the bank, I'll smoke til it kills me. Putting off quitting is just a fancy way of saying "I have no intention of quitting".

People here are hesitant to ask newbie quitters in the first day or two make a permanent decision. Sometimes all a quitter can manage at that point is hour by hour and that's fine. However, at your stage, it sounds like you are ready to make the personal commitment to never take another puff. Once you do that and really embrace it as a joyous moment when you have accomplished something you've only dreamed about, I think you'll probably find a lot of the craving melt away, or at least become more manageable. It's the internal "should I or shouldn't I" debate with each crave that is pure torture. Once you've already made the decision, not open for debate, then the game changes. You feel a crave, you know you aren't even going to consider smoking, so you find a way to deal with that particular crave. You might even embrace the crave. Get mad at it. Taunt the crave. Trash talk the crave. Ask it if that's really its best shot. Have some fun with it, because you already know you aren't going to smoke and a crave isn't going to kill you.

You are doing fine. Just keep truckin. No better time to quit than now.
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FreedomNicotine
Joined: 06 Dec 2008, 16:58

01 Jan 2010, 21:39 #34

For those a few hours into their quit who are starting to question whether they should continue:

Many years ago I had a man in my clinic named John. John was a pretty high profile public figure, in his early 40's who had many great accomplishments in his life. He came to my clinic, lasted a few days and lost the quit. He was in the middle of a high profile media situation and just decided he needed his focus and the stakes of what he was involved with at the time were just too high to deal with withdrawal. John explained this to me, and promised he would return again one day when things would be better. Well, I have heard this hundreds of times before, and while occasionally people do return, it is not the majority and probably not even a significantly high percentage. Being that I was having 50 or more people at a time in these clinics, I couldn't spend much time dealing with those who were not quitting.

Three year later John does return to the clinic and does quit smoking. He did great his second time around. Not only did he quit, but he became a regular volunteer for me, coming to many clinics as a panelist to help people first quitting. He also sent in lots of people, probably 15 to 20 over the next couple of years.

About three years after John's quit, he was going in for a physical and to his surprise there was a small spot on his chest x-ray. When it was biopsied they found out John had cancer. He was about 48 at the time, in the peak of his career, still had children of school age and now was facing this terrible diagnosis. It was a horrible shock to many people. As is often the case with lung cancer, it was a fast deterioration. Within a year and a half John had succumbed to the disease.

I went to John's funeral--it was huge. There were hundreds and hundreds of people there. Many I knew, some because of their high public profile, but more because John had sent in so many people to the clinic in the time period that he was off smoking. Even after the diagnosis he was still sending people in.

One of the men there was from one of the recent clinics and had told me how tragic this was that John had lost his life and how his lost quit was probably the reason. To be realistic I told him that it is possible that if John had quit the first time in the clinic it may not have made a difference. He basically found out he had lung cancer three years after he quit, and that lung cancer could be present for 5 years or even 10 years without presenting symptoms or even showing up on the x-ray. Being that the day I met him was about 6 years before the diagnosis, it was not totally improbable that at that time the cancer had already been initiated and was silently growing.

The man then proceeded to tell me that my clinic was not the first clinic John had tried. That in fact, 10 years before joining that first group with me, he and John had gone to another local clinic together to quit and both in a matter of days wrote it off as a bad time to quit--but knew they would both quit again one day.

Well John was right, he did eventually quit again one day. But it turned out to be over 16 years later. Now the odds were quite different--if he had quit that first time around he probably would never had developed the disease that ultimately cost him his life.

The lesson here needs to be once you have a quit going, do everything in your power to make it last. While you are seeing people come back who just seem to be quitting again, if you relapse you just don't know you will ever get the strength or desire to quit again, and that even if you do, you don't know whether something won't go wrong in the interim period before the next quit.

John is not the only person I know who fits this profile--I know lots of them--people who could have had extra years and extra decades who lost them by minimizing the implications of not quitting or of relapsing. Once you have a quit smoking, understand your very life is contingent on understanding the importance of knowing to never take another puff!

Joel

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Joel Spitzer
Joined: 13 Nov 2008, 14:04

28 Sep 2012, 16:09 #35

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