Joel
Joel

May 17th, 2006, 4:09 pm #41

For anyone who ever feels that they are not sure that they have another quit in them, they should be aware that they may be absolutely correct, they don't know that they have another quit in them. But for every member of this group today we know for a fact that you have this one going right now and I suspect you are all pretty sure you can make this one last through the rest of the day. This is the one you want to cultivate now for it is likely the one that has the best chance to work and it is definitely the one that has the best chance of avoiding the potentially lethal consequences of smoking.

For if this quit didn't take but maybe a few months from now or a few years from now the next one would, you still don't know that one of the cigarettes you smoked in that intervening time period didn't start up some deadly irreversible process. This factor again is another reason that you should do everything in your power to make this quit stick. To make this quit the quit that sticks and saves your health and your life always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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Roger (Gold)
Roger (Gold)

October 16th, 2006, 11:31 am #42

Struggling a little! We all did in the begining in our own way. Read this thread and ask yourself the question. Can I be sure I have another quit in me.
Personally, I felt I had run out of quits.
From: Joel Sent: 8/11/2006 4:57 AM
For anyone who ever feels that they are not sure that they have another quit in them, they should be aware that they may be absolutely correct, they don't know that they have another quit in them. But for every member of this group today we know for a fact that you have this one going right now and I suspect you are all pretty sure you can make this one last through the rest of the day. This is the one you want to cultivate now for it is likely the one that has the best chance to work and it is definitely the one that has the best chance of avoiding the potentially lethal consequences of smoking.

For if this quit didn't take but maybe a few months from now or a few years from now the next one would, you still don't know that one of the cigarettes you smoked in that intervening time period didn't start up some deadly irreversible process. This factor again is another reason that you should do everything in your power to make this quit stick. To make this quit the quit that sticks and saves your health and your life always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

February 4th, 2007, 12:33 am #43

Anyway, what I wanted to say is Do Everything You Need To Do to make this quit a keeper. I know I got it right this time. Simply Doing What those folks who got here before me did to get what they got - Ex-Smoker 'Comfortability' I believe it was called. Give it a chance and it'll envelop you too.

Not goin' back .........only forward.


JoeJ Free 754 days gladly choosing to NTAP cause the alternative still stinks.
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savide7
savide7

April 8th, 2007, 2:06 pm #44

Thank you! Sometimes I think it will kill me, but I will die a ex smoker!
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Jacqui672 Gold
Jacqui672 Gold

April 9th, 2007, 10:11 pm #45

I honestly think this is the most important thread here. It is the reason I am able to maintain my quit. No matter how bad a day you may be having, remember, YOU HAVE QUIT. You are succeeding. You may not be able to quit ever again. The odds are stacked against you.
I look at it this way. I view my quit as winning the lottery. If I smoke, I have to give all my new found health i.e. the money back. What are the odds I win again?
Care for your quit.
One year, one week, four days, 23 hours, 11 minutes and 27 seconds. 15078 cigarettes not smoked, saving $4,146.63. Life saved: 7 weeks, 3 days, 8 hours, 30 minutes.
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Joel
Joel

July 18th, 2007, 2:25 am #46

For anyone who ever feels that they are not sure that they have another quit in them, they should be aware that they may be absolutely correct, they don't know that they have another quit in them. But for every member of this group today we know for a fact that you have this one going right now and I suspect you are all pretty sure you can make this one last through the rest of the day. This is the one you want to cultivate now for it is likely the one that has the best chance to work and it is definitely the one that has the best chance of avoiding the potentially lethal consequences of smoking.

For if this quit didn't take but maybe a few months from now or a few years from now the next one would, you still don't know that one of the cigarettes you smoked in that intervening time period didn't start up some deadly irreversible process. This factor again is another reason that you should do everything in your power to make this quit stick. To make this quit the quit that sticks and saves your health and your life always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

August 2nd, 2007, 4:18 am #47

From: Parker - GOLD! Sent: 1/31/2005 3:43 PM
I don't know if I have another quit in me. As long as I never take another puff, I don't have to worry about it. It's not a risk I am willing to take.
No nicotine today. Not one puff. No matter what.
Parker
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Suzi
Suzi

September 6th, 2007, 4:22 am #48

This is just what I needed to read today. Have quit several times, the longest one was 3 months using the gum. Am just over 2 weeks into this quit, using this wonderful site for knowledge and support. Spend at least an hour, minimum, on this site every day. Am only 51, have had 2 open heart surgeries and diagnosed with everything from emphysema to severe C.O.P.D. My mind has been "flooded in a sea of smoking related thoughts" most of the afternoon today and the past few days. I'm glad to read that this is part of the temporary period of adjustment and not a permanent state of mind! I truly DON'T believe I have another quit left in me...my body has told me so! NTAP, Suzi
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Joel
Joel

September 6th, 2007, 5:09 am #49

From above post:

"Have quit several times, the longest one was 3 months using the gum. "

From the string NRT and quit meters
From: Joel. (Original Message) Sent: 8/19/2002 1:07 PM
I received an email question from a newer member who asked about how to set a quit meter considering she had started using nicotine patches five days before actually joining up at Freedom. She had not smoked 120 cigarettes in that time period and she did not feel she wanted to reset her quit meter for it would not accurately reflect how many cigarettes she had not smoked nor how much money she had saved. She also seemed to feel that because she had suffered so much those first five days that they must have to count for something, or that her whole quit was invalid because we seemed to act as if we felt tha the first five days somehow did not count.

I tried to email her back a reply but her email box was full and the message got kicked back to me. So I am posting the response here for in fact the message is important for other people who may have had a similar experience of finding Freedom after they had already had an NRT quit going.

Here is the response I had written:

A high percentage of people I run through clinics have actually tried NRT products in the past-actually over 85% of people who went through my clinics last year had tried NRT products and have now basically written off the experience as a waste of time. They don't try to hang on to past failures but rather now are focused on maintaining current and future success.

I think most people at Freedom are here now too because they are also of the mindset that the day they quit using nicotine is the day they stopped using nicotine. As far as you thinking now that the first few days of using patches is now making your whole quit invalid-your ten-day quit is perfectly valid. The first five days though you just transferred how you delivered nicotine. I think you are somehow working with the idea that the first five days have to be valid and important to your quit because you suffered so much during them. Suffering is not the benchmark that makes a quit valid-getting off nicotine is what makes breaking the addiction valid. People suffocating with emphysema are suffering plenty from cigarettes but if they are still smoking I don't think you would say that the suffering is a good thing or some kind of great accomplishment.

The money saved issue is pretty much a moot point too-you likely spent more on the patches than cigarettes would have cost you-especially considering you probably spent close to $50 for the box of patches and only used a few. So to say you saved money by that purchase is really misleading too.

As far as cigarettes not smoked in the meters, I think our group mindset is not really cigarettes not smoked as much as it is nicotine not used. Cigarettes are just the unit of measure for nicotine. To most of our members counting the time that a patch was used would be like an alcoholic who used to drink whisky exclusively now saying they successfully gave up drinking because all they have daily now is scotch. Alcohol is alcohol and nicotine is nicotine.

Our board is unique. Almost no other site on the Internet would agree with this stand and will gladly welcome you in and allow you to use whatever numbers you want. But people are here because they are done playing games like trying to make themselves feel better about their past ways of maintaining nicotine addiction and are now trying to make themselves actually get healthier by actually taking control of their addiction. I hope you do the same.

If you can come to grip with the concept of measuring from the day you stopped the patch you will likely be happy and successful here, but if this concept is too much of a stumbling block you will likely find yourself happier elsewhere. While you may be happier elsewhere, I am not so sure you are going to be as successful elsewhere-but the choice of what groups fits you best has got to be yours.

One last point, the 120 cigarettes difference is not going to seem important when the number of cigarettes not smoked read 10,000 or 50,000 or 100,000, and maybe more. Those numbers will be real one day if you always remember from now on that to stay smoke free simply requires always staying committed to never take another puff!

Joel

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Roger (Gold)
Roger (Gold)

September 24th, 2007, 11:17 am #50

You will never have to wonder about this as long as you never violate the Law of Addiction..........Never Take Another Puff is the best insurance policy available.
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Joel
Joel

October 14th, 2007, 2:56 am #51

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Jacqui672 Gold
Jacqui672 Gold

October 15th, 2007, 11:26 pm #52

I realize my posting in this thread again may seem redundant, but I feel it bears repeating. After spending the weekend with a bunch of smokers, I realized I probably could never quit again. Everyone of them harped to me about how smoking is an addiction and how they couldn't quit, and I thought, I might not be able to either.
Thank God I won't have to feel that way. NTAP forever.
One year, six months, two weeks, three days, 26 minutes and 19 seconds. 22640 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,226.20. Life saved: 11 weeks, 1 day, 14 hours, 40 minutes.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

November 6th, 2007, 2:38 am #53

For anyone who ever feels that they are not sure that they have another quit in them, they should be aware that they may be absolutely correct, they don't know that they have another quit in them.
- Joel

(Reposting and updating an older post from 300 days ago)
Wanted to get this observation down. I read alot about "not wanting to repeat that 'terrible' First 72 Hours" or something similar to that effect. Well as Joel's quote above mentions there's no guarantee you WILL ever go back thru withdrawal again. Heck, when I got here I was absolutely convinced that I was gonna die as a tobacco smoker - probably sooner rather than later...... (now the probability is better that it's WAY later).
Anyway, what I wanted to say is Do Everything You Need To Do (Which is NTAP No Matter What) to make this quit a keeper.
I know I got it right this time. Simply Doing What those folks who got here before me did to get what they got - ExSmoker 'Comfortability' I believe it was called. Give it a chance and it'll envelop you too.
Not goin' back, .........only forward.
JoeJ Free 1025 days gladly choosing to NTAP cause the alternative still stinks!
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RobinS614
RobinS614

January 3rd, 2008, 6:16 pm #54

What cigarette in which packet will start the process of irreversible cell division that will lead to cancer? As an alternative, why not quit now, stay quit and stop playing Russian Roulette with your life and the happiness of your loved ones.
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Rarst
Rarst

January 11th, 2008, 5:06 am #55

Today, I don't think I have another quit in me, so right now I'm stiffening my resolve to have this one last the distance.
Russ, 7d
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doreen4158
doreen4158

January 11th, 2008, 5:56 am #56

This is an exrtemely powerful thread.


Doreen
Two months, three weeks, three days, 16 hours, 39 minutes and 38 seconds. 1713 cigarettes not smoked, saving $514.41. Life saved: 5 days, 22 hours, 45 minutes.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

January 20th, 2008, 5:37 am #57

Anyway, what I wanted to say is..........
Do Everything You Need To Do (Which is NTAP No Matter What) to make this quit a keeper.
I know I got it right this time. Simply Doing What those folks who got here before me did to get what they got - ExSmoker 'Comfortability' I believe it was called.
Give it a chance and it'll envelop you too. Not goin' back, .........only forward.
JoeJ Free 1104 days by gladly choosing to Not Take A Puff cause the alternative choice is far harder & has not changed....it still stinks!
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jeffe23
jeffe23

July 11th, 2008, 3:12 am #58

I just want to say that I started smoking when I was about 10 years old. By the time I reached 50 I had tried quitting many times. It was always very hard and I would usually leave a trail of blood, broken friendships and smashed items around the house. Three of those times I quit smoking for 2 years or so before going back. People would ask me why I started again. I would look at them and tell them that I was in a slippery situation such as love lost, in a bar with friends that were smoking, or the time my brother put a cigar in my hand on mothers day. In all of these situations, it was basically that one puff of nicotine that did me in. I would go buy a pack of cigarettes the next morning and later a carton. I would always place the blame on something besides the real truth.

After finding Freedom and learning the hows and whys of nicotine addiction, I realized that the mantra of NTAP was the real cure. In all of those previous situations, I felt confident that I had beaten the monster and somehow I was now safe from addiction. Since I had clearly quit smoking for so long, I could now just have one, or two, or three because I am so strong, right? That is what led me to relapse each of those times. One puff!

Now, whenever I am faced with those situations, I think of Joel and NTAP. I know that I am strong enough to say "thanks, but no thanks". As a result of one simple set of four words "Never take another puff". I am now clean of nicotine and double gold with a firm plan for many more healthy anniversaries.

Jeff - Free and Healing for Two Years, Three Months, Twenty Four Days, 14 Hours and 5 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 58 Days and 18 Hours, by avoiding the use of 16932 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $2,191.84.
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Joel
Joel

July 20th, 2008, 9:41 pm #59

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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

December 4th, 2008, 6:59 am #60

For anyone who ever feels that they are not sure that they have another quit in them, they should be aware that they may be absolutely correct, they don't know that they have another quit in them.
- Joel
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FreedomNicotine
FreedomNicotine

February 23rd, 2010, 7:04 pm #61

Why would next time be any different?
Will you be less addicted next time?
Will you be healthier then?
Is there any guarantee that you'll ever come this far again?
The next few minutes are all that matter and each is doable!
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