Kalie
Kalie

June 2nd, 2001, 6:30 am #41

When I'm confronted with smokers I tend to feel sorry for them...quitting was my decision, and I hated the way I felt when I smoked....especially because I always knew that I had to quit or it would kill me. I could be them, puffing my way to death if I so chose...I choose not too...

Kalie

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1w 3d 15:42 smoke-free, 374 cigs not smoked, $93.50 saved, 1d 7:10 life saved
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Dida (Gold)
Dida (Gold)

June 2nd, 2001, 7:06 am #42

Zep,
Good question/thread. Most of the time I notice if a person is smoking around me but from time to time it's weird but I haven't actually noticed that another person has been smoking and I only think about it a lot later. When I first quit I did not want to be around other smokers altho' my partner was smoking at the time. I got more used to them because John was smoking and I never found the "way" that he smoked very appealing/attractive. Two very close friends of mine have always been instrumental in me not being able to keep a quit because I've always socialized with them in that context. However, since I've come to Freedom, I have discovered that I have more intestinal fortitude with them especially and their smoking hasn't really bothered me at all. As it happens, I have mentioned this web site to both of them in the hopes that they, too will find their way here and try not to be a huge pain in the butt (!!!) so I won't turn them off the idea. Attraction rather than promotion is how I'm handling it. However, I am not really keen on the idea of going into a bar that has a lot of smokers in it and it's not because I'll get into a crave situation it's that they are beginning to look really disgusting and dirty to me and I don't want to be hacking and coughing in the morning. Not really worth it - rather go to the movies.
Diana
have not smoked for: 2 months, 3 days, 1 hour
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Joel
Joel

July 2nd, 2001, 6:50 pm #43

Again with the holiday coming up in the next few days it is important for everyone to be psychologically prepared for encountering people who are smoking. Just keep your reasoning up of why you initially quit and why you don't want to ever have to go through quitting again and worst yet, you never want to go through smoking again. Remember both perspectives accurately and you will always choose to never take another puff!

Joel
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

July 30th, 2001, 5:35 am #44

How do I handle being around smokers?
I invite them to Freedom!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

August 10th, 2001, 9:45 pm #45

For Kristen and other newbies venturing out around smokers this weekend!
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zoo
zoo

August 11th, 2001, 12:57 am #46

The bar seen and getting a little tipsey or a lot tipsey is what killed a few good quits for me in the past (2 1/2 months on one of them) I have learned now how to stay away from those situations. Having a few drinks around a bunch of smokers can spell disaster for your quit.

3weeks 1 day nic free
,zoo
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

August 17th, 2001, 2:35 am #47

For Diana as she prepares to leave on vacation
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

September 21st, 2001, 12:50 am #48


Walking Among the Addicted
Nicotine addiction has taken a tremendous toll on humanity. It knows no boundaries and does not discriminate on the basis of age, sex, religion, health status or skin complexion. Regardless of the nation which we call home, we each must learn to remain comfortable as we walk among the addicted and watch them engage in public nicotine feedings.

The World Health Organization's national cigarette per capita consumption figures are calculated by dividing the total number of cigarettes sold in a nation by the total number of adults age 15 and older. They're very telling because they reveal the actual density of cigarettes being consumed daily in each country. Let's look at a few examples:
Average Number of Cigarettes
Smoked Per Adult Per Year
India 129 Ghana 161
Nigeria 189 Kenya 200
Ecuador 232 Bangladesh 245
Bahamas 438 Honduras 595
Nepal 619 Costa Rica 690
Norway 725 Mexico 754
Malaysia 910 Hong Kong 1,016
Thailand 1,067 Venezuela 1,079
Sweden 1,202 New Zealand 1,213
Egypt 1,275 Finland 1,351
Ukraine 1,456 South Africa 1,516
Argentina 1,527 Germany 1,702
Russia 1,702 United Kingdom 1,748
China 1,791 Brazil 1,802
Italy 1,901 Australia 1,907
Canada 1,976 France 2,058
Israel 2,162 Ireland 2,236
United States 2,255 Czech Republic 2,306
Netherlands 2,323 Spain 2,364
Turkey 2,394 Japan 2,403
Belgium 2,428 Hungary 2,431
Croatia 2,578 Bulgaria 2,575
Switzerland 2,720 Republic of Korea 2,918
Poland 3,291 Greece 4,313
Imagine getting medical advice on quitting while living in Greece where 50% of all male doctors/physicians in the entire country are addicted to nicotine. I'd love to be a fly on the wall.

Regardless of where we live and how many times a day we're faced with watching a smoker publically elevate their falling blood nicotine level, we can continue to stand tall and proud! That isn't us anymore! We are the masters of our minds!

It's ok to notice them, it doesn't hurt a bit, but continue to see them for what they truly are, captives of an endless cycle of rising and falling serum blood nicotine levels who are trying their very best to blend into society while engaged in publically feeding their addiction. We would have to be blind not to notice them.

Don't allow the fact that you do notice them make you think that you're doing something wrong! You're not! We all notice them! After a lifetime of addiction, ourselves, it's normal and it doesn't mean that we're having a "crave" or even a "thought" about smoking - they're simply there and we each have eyes!

Each year there will be fewer and fewer public buildings in which nicotine addicts can legally light a fire between their lips. Each year we'll see more and more smokers forced out into the streets as they smoke while standing around outside buildings, walking or while driving in cars. They're not there to tease us - LOL (stands for laugh out loud)! They're there because they only have two choices - feed the beast or endure withdrawal.

When you see a smoker, keep in mind that surveys show that over 70% of them don't want to smoke that next cigarette - they want to be like you but they don't know how. Failure upon failure, they now close their minds at the mere mention of quitting while inside clinging to the hope that maybe someday soon they'll manage to break free.
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Vee GOLD
Vee GOLD

September 21st, 2001, 3:03 am #49

The first time I had to be around smokers was on the 3rd day of my quit. I did not "smell" the smoke but I saw the attendees of a seminar out on a patio during a break. I stood at the glass and watched them and started crying feeling as if I had lost my best friend. Thank goodness for Joel's article that I happend to stumble on that night. Now, one month into my quit it really doesn't bother me. I can watch and smell - I just know I can never take another puff. I am starting to become one of those dreaded "reformed smoker evangalists".
Kind of funny reading your statistic on Greece John. It it soooo true. I lived in Greece for 3 years in the mid 80's. If you went to a restaurant, it was not uncommon for the waiter to have a cigarette dangling from his mouth as he took your order. I had a girlfriend that had a baby in the hospital in Athens and the Dr. came in the room with a big puff of smoke trailing behind him. He also, when finished with his cigarette, crushed it out on the floor with his shoe. Seems nasty now but back then all I though was "cool you can smoke in the hospitals here!" I am now glad that I don't have to try and attempt a quit living there!!

vee
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Liv (green)
Liv (green)

September 21st, 2001, 11:05 am #50

My advice: Move to California!!! The fact that you are not allowed to smoke ANYWHERE (not even bars) bothered me a lot at first, but when I realized that it made me smoke less I didn't complain too much. NOW I'm just so thankful! I'm only faced with other smokers when I walk down the street and that has so far been manageable. (Plus I still have a pretty bad cold which I believe has helped through my first 95 hours of being smoke free! Hey: Whatever works, right?)

My boyfriend is back from Holland and although I've missed him and look forward to seeing him again, I wonder how hard it will be for me: He's a smoker. But maybe he'll be inspired and smoke less around me, and maybe he'll even consider quitting too! I guess that's how I should look at it, and not worry so much beforehand!

We just have to remain strong and NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!!!

Hugs,

Liv~
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

October 20th, 2001, 3:26 am #51

This is for Sabrinia and John, a married couple,
who are just beginning their journey of healing!
Breathe deep, hug hard, live long! John : )
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

December 3rd, 2001, 1:51 am #52

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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

December 31st, 2001, 12:14 pm #53

The initial step in turning a New Year's Resolution to quit smoking into a new nicotine free life is to make it through New Years, and being around others whose lives revolve around regular nicotine feedings. When you're there and the clock strikes twelve and the New Year arrives, followed by that first opportunity to destroy your new resolution, don't think ahead but instead just focus on saying NO then and there!

Don't trouble your mind with what will happen in ten minutes, an hour or when you awake in the morning, but simply focus your entire determination on saying NO for just three minutes! If you succeed for three minutes you will have a single victory of which you can be proud! It's a big victory too for without it your resolution and new beginning would have ended before it began.

When you lay your head on your pillow, be proud of yourself! Tomorrow you'll awake and take baby steps again, just one tiny 3 minute battle at a time, and before you know it, the victories will begin building and so will your confidence!! Baby steps to glory! Like climbing cliffs - focus on getting a good grip upon the rocks in front of you! Breathe deep, hug hard, live long! YQB John : )
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SweetLorraine (Gold)
SweetLorraine (Gold)

January 5th, 2002, 1:44 am #54

For newbies
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janetd (GOLD)
janetd (GOLD)

January 6th, 2002, 11:02 am #55

Forward we go!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

January 18th, 2002, 6:32 am #56

This hand is feeding a need
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GREEN (NIKKI66)
GREEN (NIKKI66)

February 4th, 2002, 11:45 am #57

So far i haven't challenged a smoke related get together i have avoided it completly.
How proud and strong minded you must havve felt. I will book mark this so when i need to go some were, into a crouded smoke filled room i will have extra ammo, before i leave.
thanks again
nikki
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

March 16th, 2002, 11:00 am #58

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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

April 12th, 2002, 11:23 am #59

See our brothers and sisters still in bondage for what they're truly doing!

They only have two choices:

1) smoke more nicotine and elevate their sagging blood serum nicotine level, which will in turn release new dopamine, or

2) experience the onset of early withdrawal

We had a zillons of excuse - every addict does - but the truth is the truth. The nicotine half-life clock was our real boss (the amount of nicotine remaining in the blood is reduced by 50% every two hours).
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murphying (Gold)
murphying (Gold)

April 12th, 2002, 2:10 pm #60

I can honestly say I no longer feel any desire to smoke - my last bad time was at almost 2 months quit when I was more or less forced to sit around in a smoke-filled room for some hours at a friend's wedding. I felt so bad and so desperately wanted to join in the smoking that I thought I must have ingested enough nicotine through sidestream smoke to generate a relapse. Joel did explain that it wasn't possible to do this and in the end I figured I had an awful reaction to all the other chemicals I was exposed to - certainly felt very uncomfortable for a few days.
Since then I've been so easy with my quit - there are no triggers big enough to make me want to give up my new life - I'm just too comfortable here now and when I see somebody else smoking it holds no attraction for me any longer....thanks in a large measure to the education so readily available here at Freedom.
I know now that I'm an addict and always will be - this understanding is the biggest weapon I have against any thought of relapse!




yqs Ingrid

3 Months 1 Week 4 Days 35 Minutes 42 Seconds. Cigarettes not smoked: 5051.
Self esteem 100%
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Joanne Gold
Joanne Gold

April 12th, 2002, 11:01 pm #61

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Joanne Gold
Joanne Gold

April 12th, 2002, 11:07 pm #62

Oh Ingrid, what a powerful graphic! I just emailed it to a few young ladies with the following message.....

Subject: A Picture Speaks A Thousand Lines!
You can't see it on the inside,
you can feel it.....


Slowly but surely, you will see it in the mirror!
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zacc SILVER
zacc SILVER

May 20th, 2002, 8:23 pm #63

i like most of us who smoked for years have finally got to the stage where i know this time is not me quiting but me starting a new healthy life and after almost 4 weeks(ive actualy stopped counting the hours/days now which is another reason i know ive kicked it)i have found myself in the company of smokers and having a few social drinks and not only do i not want to smoke im almost sickened by the smell and taste in the air around me and like a recent message sent to me said,you have to get up and go away to give your lungs some fresh air.
WISH I HAD DONE THIS YEARS AGO!!!!!!
I FEEL YOUNGER MORE ALIVE,MY WIFE TELLS ME MY EYES LOOK CLEARER AND I LOOK YEARS YOUNGER
FOR ALL THE PEOPLE JUST STARTING TO GIVE IT UP IF I CAN DO IT ANYONE CAN ,I SMOKED 30 A DAY FOR 16 YEARS AND I WOULD RECOMMEND COLD TURKEY AND THIS WEB SITE TO ANYONE WITH THE DESIRE TO START A NEW LIFE.

I WILL NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!!!!!!!!
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Hillbilly(Gold)
Hillbilly(Gold)

May 20th, 2002, 8:59 pm #64

This may be the wrong attitude, but it's the only one I have. I go out of my way NOT to be offended by smoking friends. Some of my more considerate friends will leave to go smoke, and I actively chastise them for this.

I never want to be a typical reformed smoker who constantly criticizes friends who are currently active addicts. That never worked for me, it only made me angry, and sometimes it made me smoke more.

It is still my opinion that everyone has the right to smoke, including me. I just choose not to.
It's like one of Joel's articles says, smokers are not stupid, or criminal, just human.

I continue to seek out the smoking section outside a party or a bar where friends are smoking. It is a way for me to meet my demons head-on, which is just the way my personality works. I wouldn't advise it for everyone. You have to know yourself.

Besides that, I like the smell of a smoker lighting up. It doesn't make me want to smoke, it doesn't even make me want just one--I just find the smell pleasant. I don't find the odor of a smoker or a full ashtray pleasant, just the smell of lighting up. I have heard other people say the same thing, and I wonder if that will go away. It doesn't matter, I'm just curious.

Like I said, probably not the best attitude, but it's the only one I have, and it works for me. Please don't try this just because I recommended it, figure out what works best for you.

Dave

I have chosen not to smoke for 1 Month 1 Day 22 Hours 33 Minutes 26 Seconds. Somewhere there are 958 extra cigarettes.
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Slycat
Slycat

May 20th, 2002, 9:17 pm #65

Hi John:

It really doesn't bother me to be around the smokers, but I do have a habit of asking them to blow their smoke in my direction or light up a cigarette near me so I can smell the smoke. But I will Not Take a Puff no matter what the craving. My craving is no more grearter or smaller when around smokers. Most of these people I have hung out with for so long whether it is at work or in a bar, I am use to seeing them smoke. Although the last time I went to the bar I met this guy Paul who was hanging out with the other people I know. He had a hole in his throat and had previously had throat cancer due to smoking. Of course he didn't smoke anymore which made me think to myself. I have never actually seen that before. Of course his voice was missing too. But everybody around him just puffed away like nothing. Him on the other hand of course said Never Again!!!! I had to lean next to him when he talked because he whispered.

But after I saw the horrible withdrawal I had to go through I will never take another puff for that reason. I would never want to go through that again...

People around me that smoke on the other hand do not bother me. It's almost like a pleausre to have them smoke around me because I like the smell. I hope that one day I start to hate the smell and when I am around smokers it starts to bother me but for now since I am still a newbie and almost Green Tomorrow I can honestly say that it does not bother me now but whether I crave the cigarette or not around them I will not have one, even when I'm drinking alchol...

Judy
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