Have you noticed some of these "lost" long-term quits?

NPannie
NPannie

January 15th, 2002, 11:44 pm #41

Thank you, Joel.

How fitting that you should post this today. At 2:00 pm today there is a memorial service for a good friend's husband. He was 47, passed away at 2:30 Sunday morning. He was admitted to the hospital on 12/14 in severe pain. He only was able to come home for a couple of days after that. He spent from Friday till Sunday morning in hospice. He apparently had cancer of the liver, pancreas, and some spots showed on his lungs. He was gone so fast, I don't think they ever determined where the cancer started. As best as I know, he quit smoking 10 years ago. But, it sounds like it wasn't soon enough. I don't know if he relapsed, and don't want to ask. I can't make it to the service because I have an appointment with my pulmonary specialist. Kind of ironic. But you can know my thoughts and prayers will be with that family even though I can not be there for his service.

I hope I never get too comfortable with my quit to let my gaurd down. On my 6 month anniversary, I reread my first post and diary. Thank you so much for having us record this trying time, because your mind can still play tricks on you, even after 6 months. Last night I had the worst nicotine demon dream yet. It was like someone was whispering in my ear all night long "too bad you've been sneaking a smoke once a day. You haven't really quit. You just haven't made it back to a pack a day yet".
So, we addicts can never, ever let our gaurd down. Hard to imagine a dream being so hard to shake, but it really shook me up.

Loving my freedom.
Thank you all for such a wonderful website, you are saving lives daily.
I'll never, ever, take another puff!
Nancy
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Galemarie2
Galemarie2

January 16th, 2002, 2:15 am #42

This is such a timely post for me. About six years ago, I quit smoking for two years Went out with a few friends, had a beer, thought one wouldn't hurt. It has taken me six years to gather together the motivation to quit again. That's why I am grateful for Freedom. Everything I read here hones in on the addiction and the realization that I can never take another puff.

This is the fifth day of my quit and I hope that I hope I have the good sense to reinforce the message every day that I can never take another puff.
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Joel
Joel

January 23rd, 2002, 6:33 pm #43

For Richit

As you will see, a lot of people lost long-term quits and all the relapses shared two things in common. First, while they all may have had different strories--none of the reasons were legitimate reasons to relapse to full-fledged smoking. Secondly, they all went back the same way, they took a puff on a cigarette. Even after 23 years it did in your quit. This should tell you something. It should tell you what it tells everyone else here...that if you want to stay smoke free you must understand the importance of knowing to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joel

March 6th, 2002, 8:35 pm #44

For Betsybe:

Losing a 13 day quit is nothing--people can lose a 13 year quit or a 35 year quit if they ever think in terms of "a slip." A quit is only going to be successful over the long-term if over the long-term you always stay focused that to save your quit, your health and likely your life is as simple as always remembering to never take another puff!

Joel
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happycamper 67
happycamper 67

April 9th, 2002, 8:01 pm #45

Wow Joel! #46 is really powerful stuff. Just what I needed! Thanks!
yqs,
maggie
day 425 CT
Never Question Your Decision To Quit
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Joel
Joel

May 11th, 2002, 7:10 pm #46

As noted in a number of posts in this string, relapses are very rare here and we like to keep it that way. I know bringing up all these articles can seem like overkill when no one is talking about relapsing but when it comes to relapsing--no amount of prevention can be too much. For the sake of a person who relapses as well as for the sake of every other person here, the understanding and implication of a relapse must be understood in its entirety by everyone. Your very lives depend on accepting nicotine as an addiction and treating it as such. That treatment comes down to constantly reminding yourself that you never want to be a full-fledges smoker again and the way to avoid the life an actively using nicotine addict is to always remember that to stay free you must never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joel

May 16th, 2002, 7:40 pm #47

It was pretty interesting that in last night group, one man had once quit for 6 months, one woman for five days , one girl who was 17 had once tried to quit for two days, and one man who has smoked for 40 years had never tried to quit before. Normally in groups they get to witness more lost long-term quits to learn from--that did not happen here. So in the event that the four people read here, I am bringing up some post specific to this issue--that no matter how long a person is off they will lose their quit if they don't understand the bottom line law of addiction that to stay smoke free you must never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joel

June 7th, 2002, 3:37 pm #48

This clinic has been really interesting. We had one woman who once had a 20 year quit who lost it. Unfortunately she didn't make it this time around. We had one woman who had a thirteen year quit, and one woman who had two ten year quits lost. Off 10 years, on 5 years, off 10, on 5. We also had one man who had a few year quit going and relapsed on a cigar. He has been smoking and inhaling cigars ever since. The relapse happened in the mid 1970's.

The only way to insure you don't face a similar fate is to always remember to make this quit stick requires always staying reinforced and committed to never take another puff!

Joel
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OBob Gold
OBob Gold

August 13th, 2002, 9:37 am #49

'bout time this resurfaced...
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Joel
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September 13th, 2002, 6:31 am #50

As noted in a number of posts in this string, relapses are very rare here and we like to keep it that way. I know bringing up all these articles can seem like overkill when no one is talking about relapsing but when it comes to relapsing--no amount of prevention can be too much. For the sake of a person who relapses as well as for the sake of every other person here, the understanding and implication of a relapse must be understood in its entirety by everyone. Your very lives depend on accepting nicotine as an addiction and treating it as such. That treatment comes down to constantly reminding yourself that you never want to be a full-fledges smoker again and the way to avoid the life an actively using nicotine addict is to always remember that to stay free you must never take another puff! Joel
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Pilar28(GOLD)
Pilar28(GOLD)

September 18th, 2002, 1:44 pm #51

This thread is the kind that keeps me from following the ocassional junkie thinking situation that happens, less and less but without completely dissapearing at 3 months into my quit.
I should know, because I once lost a 3 year quit and went back to full fledge smoking in a matter of days. I was 30 years old and when I quit and about 33 when I went back. It took me another 5 years to gather the strenght to do it again. But this time, one day at a time, I'm sure I won't take another puff.... I know have the FREEDOM that I need to keep me from doing that....

Pilar
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Joel
Joel

September 19th, 2002, 6:05 am #52

From: Joel.Sent: 5/11/2002 6:10 AM As noted in a number of posts in this string, relapses are very rare here and we like to keep it that way. I know bringing up all these articles can seem like overkill when no one is talking about relapsing but when it comes to relapsing--no amount of prevention can be too much. For the sake of a person who relapses as well as for the sake of every other person here, the understanding and implication of a relapse must be understood in its entirety by everyone. Your very lives depend on accepting nicotine as an addiction and treating it as such. That treatment comes down to constantly reminding yourself that you never want to be a full-fledges smoker again and the way to avoid the life an actively using nicotine addict is to always remember that to stay free you must never take another puff! Joel
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Joel
Joel

November 10th, 2002, 6:18 am #53

This seemed like a good post to place here: - Joel


Joel, just as I was kicking back enjoying my One Year of Freedom I had a wake up call. I visited one of my customers this week and while I was there she asked her son for a cigarettes. I said "I didn't know you smoked". She said "well I had quit 20 years ago and this old friend came to visit me and we had some giggles sharing a couple smokes. Ya know, I can't seem to stop buying them now...". That was a 20 YEAR QUIT THAT SHE LOST!!!! It's never, ever, ever, ever, OK to take another puff for us addicts. Did I stress NEVER!!!

*Candy* at one year but just a puff away from full blown active addiction (not gonna happen though)
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eddie d (Bronze)
eddie d (Bronze)

November 10th, 2002, 6:58 pm #54

My mom smokes. She quit in August 2000 and stayed quit for exactly one year then started smoking again :-( She claims she's going to quit again but so far she hasn't. I don't know what it was about that magical "one year mark" but it got her! I have a feeling she felt she had made it a year and "deserved one"? Regardless - I think she would have benefitted tremendously from this website and all this valuable information. I've printed quite a bit out and given to her - can't get her into the internet but at least she's "thinking" of quitting again. We'll see I guess.

Eddie

I quit smoking 3 Weeks 6 Days 10 Hours 57 Minutes 36 Seconds ago.
That's 1098 cigarettes not smoked and
$148.82 I didn't give the tobacco pushers.
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Joel
Joel

December 4th, 2002, 7:14 pm #55

For Diana
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Juanjuanjuanjuanjuan200
Juanjuanjuanjuanjuan200

December 4th, 2002, 7:19 pm #56

A clear figure of our addicion y that the smoking time, the time of the relapse, is twice as long as the quit.
16 years smokin with tones of micro quits
a 3 year quit
an 8 year relapse, loads of mini quits
an my cleanest 5 months.

Juun
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Joel
Joel

January 24th, 2003, 8:41 pm #57

For Fairy
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Joel
Joel

January 27th, 2003, 12:20 pm #58

I saw where a new member wrote that she was getting intimidated by reading about all of our lost long-term quits. I think she might have read this thread. Please look at the original dates of this thread, it refers to what Freedom was like when we didn't have our current policies in place. People did indeed relapse in numbers. That does not happen anymore because we have got our membership understanding from the day they join that the only way they can keep their membership, and more importantly, the only way they can keep their quit is to stay 100% committed to never take another puff!

Joel
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Laureysgold3
Laureysgold3

January 27th, 2003, 1:31 pm #59

Thanks Joel!

Laurey
2months, 4days, 23hours, and counting
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jdinkcmoGOLD
jdinkcmoGOLD

February 12th, 2003, 1:50 am #60

I just had to respond to this post because I am living proof of just how one puff can take us back to the living **** of smoking addiction. From a CT quit in 1975, I lost a 7 year quit to the "stress" excuse and smoked for 5 more years until I managed another CT quit in 1987. After a TWELVE year quit, my junkie thinking put me back on it yet again, smoking like crazy. This quit (my last) will work because I have the one thing now I never had before....education!! I know I'm an addict and that I can never take another puff.
JD
Judy has been nicotine free for: 3 Weeks 6 Days 9 Hours and has NOT smoked 1150, for a savings of $192.79 plus life prolonged by: 3 Days 23 Hours 50 Minutes.
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Joel
Joel

March 18th, 2003, 11:12 pm #61

For Rick
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MsArmstrongKIS
MsArmstrongKIS

March 19th, 2003, 5:51 am #62

Thought I'd try to repair a little of the damage I did to the "Good news, our members don't relapse anymore" thread.

I know people who seem to be able to smoke only once in a while--you know, the "exceptions". But I am also only 23 years old, and most of those "exceptions" are younger than I am. Therefore, there is still plenty of time for them to bear out the one=all philosophy.

I also know plenty of people who had good, long quits going--2, 3, 4 year quits--who started smoking again as a result of a misbegotten cigarette at a party, or with a smoking friend. I've seen it happen. In fact, a good friend of mine is now a major league smoker, and when I first met him, he didn't smoke at all--he had quit for two years.

Personally, I have never quit for nearly as long as I have now, which in my opinion really proves to me that I'm decidedly living under the law of addiction. No question. Every time I've quit before I thought after a couple of days that I could socially smoke, now that I had broken my habit of smoking 15/day. Well, it didn't work then and I am not deluding myself any longer. I will never be a social smoker, just, in the words of O'Bob (or Hillbilly. . .can't remember which), a "plain old regular smoker".

The road of a thousand miles begins with one step. The road of a thousand cigarettes begins with one puff. If you don't want to go down the road, don't take the puff and you KNOW you never will.

Alex
1 month 4 days
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madisonsmom(DBLGREEN)
madisonsmom(DBLGREEN)

March 29th, 2003, 3:50 am #63

I had to share my story since I have lost a long-term quit. I quit smoking when I turned 30 and after a few months I felt better than I ever had in my entire life. I started working out, ran my first 5k and 10k and was loving every minute of it. I eventually reached the point where I could not be around cigarettes at all; breathing in other's smoke made my throat hurt and I could not stand the smell of it. I thought that I would never smoke another cigarette in my life - I never wanted to.

Well, close to three years later, I had a few drinks and was hanging with my old smoking buddies and decided to have one just to see what it would be like. The next day I bought a pack and smoked a couple and threw the rest out. I repeated this for a few days until I decided to go ahead a smoke a whole pack - didn't want to waste any money! Of course within two weeks I was smoking a pack a day again.

Well, here I am after smoking again for the last two years. Hopefully a little more educated than before and very determined to get that feeling back again! I have my sites set on an early winter 5K!

MM

One week, six days, 13 hours, 49 minutes and 28 seconds. 298 cigarettes not smoked, saving $58.24. Life saved: 1 day, 50 minutes.
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MsArmstrongKIS
MsArmstrongKIS

May 12th, 2003, 10:11 am #64

Joel. . .I am really wondering about something. My housemate had one cigarette yesterday at a party and she insists that it was just that one and that she's never going to smoke another one again. She quit two days before I did. I talked to my dad on the phone today and he said that a year after he quit he had one cigarette and he will always remember that one because it was so disgusting he realized that he never wanted to smoke again. And he hasn't for about 30 years, although now he smokes a cigar once in a while.

I am incapable of thinking about smoking just one cigarette. When I visualize it I can feel myself instantly wanting to go to the gas station and buy myself a pack. It's almost like I can feel the relapse process in my head before it even happens. So I know that smoking just one would never work for me, which actually makes it much easier for me to remain nicotine-free.

You can delete this post if you want because I know that it's not great to have examples of people who seem to fly under the radar of addiction but I just don't get it. I don't get why my father has a cigar once in a while and doesn't become a full-fledged smoker. I know I can't do that, there is not one doubt in my mind that I can't do that, but I don't get why other people seem to be able to do it.

Alex
2 months 3 weeks 7 days
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Joel
Joel

May 12th, 2003, 10:47 am #65

Read these posts, especially the comments I wrote in them today:
The relapse of a "social smoker" 38 5 IrishLotus (Silver) 5/11/2003 9:45 PM
The Lucky One's Get Hooked! 16 Joel. 5/11/2003 9:17 PM
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