Giving and getting medical advice online.

Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

23 Dec 2002, 01:13 #11

Smoking did not cause everything. It causes a whole lot of things though and many things that it does not cause, it makes worse. On the same token, quitting does not cause everything. Quitting is usually accompanied with many repairs, but there are also some adjustments (see Medication adjustments) that go on that may need a partnership with your physicians to get worked out.

My general rule of advice is whatever happens the first few days of a quit, whether it is physical or psychological reactions, blame it on not smoking. It is probably the cause of most early quit reactions. If it is a symptom to a condition that could be life threatening, such as severe chest pains or signs or symptoms of a stroke-contact your doctor immediately. While it is probably nothing and just a side effect of quitting, in the long shot that it is something else coincidentally happening the week you are quitting, you need to get it checked out.

Things happening weeks, months, years or decades after your quits though should not ever be assumed to be a quit smoking reaction. It is life going on without smoking. Some of these things may trigger smoking thoughts-especially if they are similar to conditions you did have in the past when you were a smoker. The situation now is a first time experience with a prior feeling where smoking was integrates thus creating smoking thoughts. But even in this case, the condition is creating a smoking thought, it is not that your smoking memories or your smoking past is creating the condition.

Life goes on without smoking. It is likely to go on longer and it is likely that you will be healthier at each and every stage than you would have been if you had continued smoking. Your life will continue to stay better and likely last long longer as long as you always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

13 Feb 2003, 04:24 #12

This post is important and can't be brought up enough. While the post was originally geared at advice about medications, in fact it really applies to any kind of medical advice. We can bring up possible reactions that a person may have from quitting--and we may say at times that this symptom or that symptom may occur when quitting. But that does not mean symptoms should be ignored or written off, especially any symptom lasting beyond a couple of weeks.

Then there are those symptoms that may happen the first few days, which are very likely from quitting smoking but, because of the nature of the symptom can't safely be written off either. Symptoms such as chest pains, which are common when quitting, can also be a warning of something happening totally independent of quitting and needs to be evaluated, even early on in a quit.

The best advice we can give is always if you are experiencing a reaction out of the ordinary that is causing you concern, call your doctor, explain to him and her when you stopped smoking and what you are now experiencing and ask him or her if a visit is warranted. The other piece of life saving advice that we can give you is to prevent new diseases and minimize the risk if many crippling and life threatening conditions simply entails knowing from this point on to never take another puff!
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

15 Mar 2003, 07:36 #13

I had to bring this one up quickly before. I deleted a post from a new member who wrote that he was upping a prescription medication in order to ease his quitting symptoms. He was also asking what others thought of the idea. Considering it was his first post I am guessing he hasn't been reading much at Freedom.

We in fact have a number of new members starting to participate. I am bringing up a number of posts to layout how we operate here at Freedom. For the record medical advice posts are going to be pulled and repeat violations will be cause for pulling of membership and posting priviledges.

The only advice we give on taking of drugs is that to stay nicotine free you must stop delivering nicotine and to stay smoke free means knowing to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

11 May 2003, 04:15 #14

Then there are those symptoms that may happen the first few days, which are very likely from quitting smoking but, because of the nature of the symptom can't safely be written off either. Symptoms such as chest pains, which are common when quitting, can also be a warning of something happening totally independent of quitting and needs to be evaluated, even early on in a quit.

The best advice we can give is always if you are experiencing a reaction out of the ordinary that is causing you concern, call your doctor, explain to him and her when you stopped smoking and what you are now experiencing and ask him or her if a visit is warranted. The other piece of life saving advice that we can give you is to prevent new diseases and minimize the risk if many crippling and life threatening conditions simply entails knowing from this point on to never take another puff!
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

09 Nov 2003, 20:54 #15

I saw where a member wrote that while we are not allowed to give medical advice on the board, she felt as if she needed to advice any person who was having an extended cough one piece of medical advice which was to see a physician. This piece of advice is fine. So I guess this piece should have ended with the following statement:

There are only two kinds of medical advice that we are comfortable saying applies to everyone here at Freedom. They are that if you are experiencing any symptoms that are not normal and concern you, then you should consult your personal physician, and that smoking is deadly, and to avoid ever relapsing to this deadly addiction requires continuing to swallow our tough medicine of knowing to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

05 Jan 2004, 07:28 #16

I normally tell people who experience wild or bizarre reactions the first few days not to be surprised or unduly alarmed, it is likely from not smoking. But at the same time they should not totally ignore certain symptoms, in case in the long shot that something else is happening just coincidently at the same time as they are quitting smoking. The symptom of muscle tightness is often felt through out the body. Back aches, neck pains such as those experienced from times of extreme stress, even leg cramps can be felt by some. Chest tightness too can be experienced. While quitting smoking is the usual reason behind the reaction, for obvious safety reasons it is prudent to get the symptoms checked with ones doctor. You just don't want to take the chance that you were the exception to the rule, that the chest pain was actually a signal of real heart trouble.

I have literally had over 4,500 people in smoking clinics over a 26 year time period and had only had two people actually have heart attacks within a week of quitting. And they were both people who were quitting because of doctors advice that a heart attack was an imminent danger because of pre-existing conditions. So while I am not trying to say that the risk of a heart attack is high from quitting, in fact your risk of heart attack decreases upon cessation and relatively quickly, there still is a risk as there is with all smokers, ex-smokers and even all never smokers. Ignoring a cardiac symptom is just an unnecessary risk that no one should take. It is better to check in with your doctor and to be safe than sorry. Doctors are often very receptive to work with a person when they are quitting for they often recognize the serious nature of the effort.

So as for symptoms, don't be surprised or alarmed by anything, but be cautious and stay aware. If you experience any symptom that would normally be a reason to get checked out immediately, follow through with the same expedience now. Life goes on without smoking and things can always happen.

Also, once over the first few days, be really cautious of blaming symptoms on smoking cessation. While some reactions can linger, especially coughing and excessive phlegm reactions, other factors can happen too, especially during cold and flu seasons. Pretty much stay aware and follow the normal precautions you followed before while smoking. Unless as a smoker you never did anything, for some smokers are intimidated to go to the doctor when having symptoms for shear embarrassment that the doctor would just chastise them for smoking and tell them to stop. Rather than putting up with the admonishments, they would ignore problems in the past.

As an ex-smoker you won't face the same complications. Again, doctors are often more prone to work with you when they see you working for yourself, and not to ignore symptoms writing them off to a normal smoker's ailments. They are often more supportive when you quit.

So to stay healthy, learn to listen to your body. Smokers are notoriously bad at this, for their body was likely telling them to quit for a long time and they ignored it. But the day the quit smoking was a good indication that they were now working with their body to maintain health. To keep a good partnership going with your doctor, other health professionals, your family, friends and your own body always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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GrumpyOMrsS (Gold)
Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:00

25 Jun 2004, 23:34 #17

We have posted on the board numerous times about giving medical advice on the board. Please honor this policy for it is in fact a membership requirement. Posts that give medical advice will be pulled and repeating of such posts will result in posting privileges being revoked.

There is only one piece of medical advice that we are comfortable saying applies to everyone here at Freedom. That is that smoking is deadly, and avoiding ever relapsing to this deadly addiction requires continuing to swallow our tough medicine of knowing to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

07 Aug 2004, 00:31 #18

I just removed a post suggesting the use of specific over the counter medications to aid in sleep disturbances when quitting. Besides this post, the strings Crutches to Quit Smoking and The Teaching of Conventional Wisdom at Freedom futher explore why such advice should never be passed along at Freedom and why it will in fact be removed whenever it occurs. Also, repeated offenses will likely result in the loss of membership.

Joel
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GrumpyOMrsS (Gold)
Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:00

01 Sep 2004, 03:21 #19

There is only one piece of medical advice that we are comfortable saying applies to everyone here at Freedom. That is that smoking is deadly, and avoiding ever relapsing to this deadly addiction requires continuing to swallow our tough medicine of knowing to never take another puff!
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

15 Oct 2004, 23:59 #20

Once over the first few days, be really cautious of blaming symptoms on smoking cessation. While some reactions can linger, especially coughing and excessive phlegm reactions, other factors can happen too, especially during cold and flu seasons. Pretty much stay aware and follow the normal precautions you followed before while smoking. Unless as a smoker you never did anything, for some smokers are intimidated to go to the doctor when having symptoms for shear embarrassment that the doctor would just chastise them for smoking and tell them to stop. Rather than putting up with the admonishments, they would ignore problems in the past. As an ex-smoker you won't face the same complications. Again, doctors are often more prone to work with you when they see you working for yourself, and not to ignore symptoms writing them off to a normal smoker's ailments. They are often more supportive when you quit.

So to stay healthy, learn to listen to your body. Smokers are notoriously bad at this, for their body was likely telling them to quit for a long time and they ignored it. But the day the quit smoking was a good indication that they were now working with their body to maintain health. To keep a good partnership going with your doctor, other health professionals, your family, friends and your own body always remember to never take another puff!

Joel
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