False Associations

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False Associations

JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

November 18th, 2005, 1:34 am #1

On my drive to work this morning I passed a crew in front of a farmhouse that just sold. Looks like the old place is gonna get a new roof. A few guys were standing by their trucks in the chilly 20 degree dawn air. The wind driven snowflakes had to sting their faces. Why weren't they waiting in the truck? Several had cigs dangling from their mouths. A lit bit of tobacco hanging there, smoldering just inches from their nose and eyes.

WHY?

Why would anyone have a nearly 2000 degree fire that close to his or her face?

Nearly all of the justifications active smokers / tobacco users use to continue their "habit" are based on False Associations. Our reactive thought processes have been programmed with False information and we've formed Associations based on those untruths.

An example? Sure. A False Association founded in my childhood was that physical labor, like those roofers were about to engage in, required the use of tobacco. Whether in a mine, on a tractor in a field, on a factory floor or up on a roof physical labor necessitated the 'extra strength' gained by smoking or chewing tobacco. Why else would you breathe in smoke or swallow sour tobacco juice that makes you dizzy while you were exerting yourself so greatly?! Smoking or chewing tobacco gave you a boost! RIGHT? My Grandpas, coal miners both, always either smoked or chewed tobacco when performing any task - whether it was working in their gardens or changing a tire (or reading a book for that metter) - they'd have a smoldering cig dangling from their lips, just like those guys I saw this morning. Did it help them work any better? Not really as lots of times they had to stop to cough or blink tears away when the smoke went up their nose or stung their eyes. That stinging, burning, choking sensation should have been a clue. Why didn't they or I take the hint?!


False Associations


Even though limited nowadays tobacco advertising aims to create False Associations in the target of the ads. I also seems that the younger the viewer the better the target as almost all tobacco advertising is youth culture oriented. Tobacco users are portrayed as Rugged or Fun-Loving or Sexy or Outdoorsy or physically active scaling a mountain or frolicking in the surf at a beach. It is a False Association to link smoking with these attributes and activities. False Associations all!


Nicotine addicts require only one thing, an uninterrupted supply of the psychoactive agent. Those guys I saw standing around this morning might just as well have had an IV drip of nicotine solution keeping their blood serum level at the 'right' level, temporarily keeping withdrawal symptoms at bay. However, walking around with the stand on wheels and a needle in their arm would make it much harder to get the work done. So, needing nicotine to feed their addiction, they deliver the new doses by puffing or dipping tobacco.


When you strip away the False Association & cloaking images portrayed in tobacco ads in magazines or billboards, inserted into movies or music videos what's left?


When we look beneath the carefully calculated images that are meant to ingrain False Associations in our memory banks what do we see?



We see cigarette smoking, tobacco chewing or any form of nicotine ingestion (patches, pills, powders or potions whether prescribed or OTC) for what it REALLY is. A means to temporarily stave off constant craving and delay withdrawal another 30 to 60 minutes. A means to an end. Consuming nicotine by using dangerous delivery devices. All the while feeding this fearsome addiction which slowly, constantly, inexorably kills the user a little more quickly with each dose delivered.



The truth about tobacco use a.k.a smoking?



There are no 'Smokers' or 'Chewers' there are only ADDICTS!



If you have not joined all of us here who have arrested our addiction give yourself a chance to LIVE free of the constant need to feed your body and brain nicotine. You weren't (supposed to be) born with it, You don't need it to live, and we promise that after a relatively short while you won't miss it once you decide on living a natural, nicotine-free life & choose to just Never Take Another Puff!



JoeJ
Free - born a nicotine addict and now an ex-smoker for 10 months, 7 days, 2 hours, 13 minutes and 33 seconds (311 days).
I've not had to buy & consume 7777 Nicotine delivery sticks, and saved $1,555.83.
I've reclaimed 27 days and 6 minutes to live as I Choose, that's the best part of my gift to me.
NTAP!
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ZZRSteve GOLD
ZZRSteve GOLD

November 18th, 2005, 6:14 am #2

They didn't have I.V.s or such because that wouldn't look "cool" and in fact, injesting nicotine by smoke may be a more effective delivery method anyway.

The myth....coooooool....

The reality...one of many....emphysema
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

January 20th, 2006, 8:22 pm #3

There are so many 'False Association' bricks we use to help us build our wall of denial to keep our destructive addictive behaviors safe from the truth.
Some that I can readily think of have been mentioned by others
  • I Must smoke a cigarette after a meal.
  • I Must smoke a cigarette when I get behind the wheel of my car to drive somewhere (also applied as a passenger if the driver allowed it).
  • I must smoke when an intermission break is given in a play

Are there other Strong yet False Associations we held for so long that after removing nicotine from our chemical make-up prove to no longer hold true?

I'd love to hear more about this from all of you.

What False Associations did you carry around to help preserve your justification for addiction?

JoeJ - Free for over a year and no longer delusional about why I inhaled the acrid smoke or swallowed the sour juice of tobacco nearly 3 MILLION times.
I did it because I'm a nicotine Addict! NTAP!
I've got no strings and I'm so glad
No strings at all to make me sad
I had strings but now I'm free,
There are no strings on me
Oh, hi-ho, the way we go
I'm as happy as can be
I want the world to know
Nothing ever worries me!
I've got no strings so I have fun
I'm not tied up to anyone
How I love my liberty, there are no strings on me!
No false ties to bind me, it's now easy to find me,
'Cause I've got no strings on me!
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CindyL 106
CindyL 106

January 20th, 2006, 8:42 pm #4

Joe J.
Here's another incredible false association for you....smoking is glamorous! And to think that Bogie died of lung cancer ....If you've ever read Bacall's biography there is a pretty heart rending description of his final days and his struggle...

Here's a quote from the website where I found this picture
"In this, the film often credited with starting a million women smoking, the 19-year-old Bacall actually takes only four drags off her non-filter. But what drags! All from the initial lighting - deeply inhaled and thickly expelled. She blows out a match with one exhale. You can see why others were attracted to the habit."
Boy is that some delusional stuff....Makes me very glad that I have finally seen the truth behind the "glamour"... Smoking is a foul, disgusting, killer ADDICTION and I will NTAP.
Cindy
_______________________________
I have been quit for 2 glorious Weeks, 4 Days, 19 hours and 41 minutes. I have saved $70.57 by not smoking 470 cigarettes. I have saved 1 Day, 15 hours and 10 minutes of my life.
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Em B 12106
Em B 12106

February 2nd, 2006, 12:52 am #5

I've got no strings and I'm so glad
No strings at all to make me sad
I had strings but now I'm free,
There are no strings on me
Oh, hi-ho, the way we go
I'm as happy as can be
I want the world to know nothing ever worries me!
I've got no strings so I have fun
I'm not tied up to anyone
How I love my liberty, there are no strings on me!
No false ties to bind me, it's now easy to find me,
'Cause I've got no strings on me!
Excellent!!! Thanks JoeJ
- Em
One week, three days, 13 hours, 45 minutes and 5 seconds. 158 cigarettes not smoked, saving $33.62. Life saved: 13 hours, 10 minutes.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

March 3rd, 2006, 4:54 am #6

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MgFeijoo1
MgFeijoo1

March 4th, 2006, 1:33 am #7

I believe we all had false associations when we began smoking. When I was 13, I thought if I smoked I would become a beautiful, mature woman, whan I was really only a child without any idea of what I wanted to do or be. I remember I smoked really early, when I went walking to school, on the street, and people stared at me. In that moment I didn't know why, but now, it is the same thing that happens when I see a 13 year old boy or girl smoking on the street, I feel sorry for the mistake they are making, thanks to all the advertising and stereotipes in Mexico, and all over the world, though in Mexico is not as informed as other countries yet.

When I was looking for a web page where I could find information about quitting, I didn't find anything in spanish. Everything I found was in english. I ask myself what happens with people who doesn't speak, read or understand english. I found a group in the National University, but it only has sessions on working weeks during the morning. People like me, who works, can't go there.

In TV they are not advertising any more, not any branch of cigs. In the street I see them less, but there are lots. We need a lot of information too. Two partners at work asked me how I did to stop smoking. I've send them the links to the pages so they can read, and read, an learn about our addiction. They know english as well, thanks God. I really hope I can return in any way this beautiful gift ever.

Marina
1W 6D 9H 20S!! And yes!! NTAP!! Not Ever!!
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

April 20th, 2006, 7:36 pm #8

The truth about tobacco use a.k.a cigarette / pipe smoking or dipping?
There are no 'Smokers' or 'Chewers' there are only ADDICTS!
I wish it was just a nasty little habit
Why do I smoke?

"I smoke because I like smoking!"
"I smoke because I like the flavor"
I am an addict! Hooray!
You smoke because you're a smoke-a-holic

JoeJFree always a nicotine addict and gratefully now an EX-smoker for 1 year, 3 months, 9 days, 21 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds (464 days)
I've now reclaimed 40 Days and 8 Hours to live how I choose!
NTAP!
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FoolishWorkinj
FoolishWorkinj

April 20th, 2006, 8:44 pm #9

thanks, joanne, free for 100 days
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forza d animo
forza d animo

April 20th, 2006, 9:45 pm #10

I used to think that working with a cigarette hanging from my mouth made me look, well, like a worker, like my father who I watched work as a carpenter with a cigarette hanging from his mouth. I thought it made me look like a man but as Joe explained so eloquently, it only made me look like a smoker, or more accurately, a nicotine addict.
Joseph
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Crystal View1.ffn
Crystal View1.ffn

April 23rd, 2006, 8:35 pm #11


Thanks JoeJ!
Katie - After 40 Years! Free and Healing for One Year, Six Months, Four Days, 23 Hours and 32 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 32 Days and 15 Hours, by avoiding the use of 9401 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $1,923.52.
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smokefreeJD Gold
smokefreeJD Gold

August 28th, 2006, 9:17 pm #12

Here's a False Association: nicotine is a well-deserved "reward" for just about anything. In fact, it's such a wonderful "reward" that it allows anyone to use that as an excuse. "I deserve it"... "it's my only vice"... "I worked hard today"... "I put up with so much stress I should be allowed to reward myself"... "my husband/wife/son/daughter/neighbor/ex-roommate made me so angry I should be able to light up"...

Jill
Kicking Butt for 3 years, 10 months+
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KeithS0
KeithS0

August 28th, 2006, 9:29 pm #13

That's what was getting me this weekend, "The Big Reward!"
The idea after I finished some job around the house- mowing the grass etc. I deserved to take a break and indulge in a "relaxing smoke". I really am taking it one day at a time.
Smobriety comes to: 0Y 0M 1W 3D 1H 24Mns $-Saved to date: $32.64
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danneo8
danneo8

September 14th, 2006, 3:34 am #14

I agree with that "big reward" push by the media. For 40 years I have used that illogical thinking to "give" myself a break after finishing any little job, task or obligation. And the really ridiculous part is I bought into the entire belief system. OH gosh, I just really need this little break. Little did I realize that I did NEED not the little reward or break but the evil nicotene. Yikes! What a fool. So here I am, 16 days in and still fighting that urge to run outside and take a "little break" (with a cig) because I've been hard at it here at work. I may as well run outside and play chicken with the cars passing in front of the building. At least then I could really see the damage caused if I got hit! That's another little creepy thing about smoking. I've been very fortunate in that I've never really had any physical side effects that were visible and everyone thinks I'm in great shape. The scary part is now I know after all my reading here that my insides are a mess (HEALING of course but still a mess) but you'd never know it. Just more of the insiduous devastation that nicotene causes. Just more reason to stay committed to this quit and NTAP. Thanks to everyone for sharing all your insights and experiences. It helps keep me on the straight and narrow. Danneo
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

September 14th, 2006, 4:49 am #15

Here are a couple more related links:
Are you smoking more and enjoying it less?
Try replacing the word "cigarette" with "nicotine
Wanting vs. thinking, is there a difference?
Breaking links to our crave generator
Did we use nicotine as a 'Reward'?
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dennyb2
dennyb2

September 15th, 2006, 2:53 am #16

Joe, in Message 6 you asked:

What False Associations did you carry around to help preserve your justification for addiction?


 
Minus the tag line here, the Marlboro Man commercials of the past had an everlasting effect on me. I always associated outdoor activities with smoking and how much better these activities were if you smoked while doing them. How's that for backwards (I am an outdoors person) and yet I absolutely believed it was true for a very long time!!
Thanks for continuing to remind us:
The truth about tobacco use a.k.a smoking?

There are no 'Smokers' or 'Chewers' there are only ADDICTS!

Denny B - After 38 years - Free and Healing for Five Months, Twenty Days, 2 Hours and 50 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 21 Days, by avoiding the use of 6059 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $1,525.61.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

October 10th, 2006, 11:09 pm #17

The first step in recovery is Admitting and Accepting our addiction. You and I did not smoke out of 'habit' for many (some of us over 40) years.
We didn't throw away - were robbed of - tens of thousands of dollars because we felt like it.
We smoked tobacco because we needed to ingest nicotine regularly to sustain our physical & mental addiction to nicotine.
There are many False Associations to break. An important one is getting rid of the stinking thinking were were duped into believing that cigarette smoking is a habit.

As Joel so famously puts it -

"I always state it this way. Treat an addiction as an addiction and a person will learn to control it. Treat an addiction like a bad habit and the person won't have a prayer."



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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

December 15th, 2006, 5:06 am #18

Inhaling the fumes of tobacco smoke &/or sucking in its juices killed or contributed heavily to the unfortunate and untimely DEATHS of nearly all my close relatives in a variety of horrible ways.
Emphysema, lung cancer, liver cancer, prostate cancer, stroke, heart attack, cranial aneuyrsm, congestive heart failure coupled with COPD, ...... etc.
That does not even take into account the years lived in less than optimal health due to continued use of tobacco to maintain their addiction to nicotine.
So I ask you, what part of 'the image' was glamourous enough for any of us to deny the truth and continue killing ourselves for a 'cool' persona?
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

March 23rd, 2007, 2:46 am #19

Nearly all of the justifications active smokers / tobacco users use to continue their "habit" are based on False Associations. Our reactive thought processes have been programmed with False information and we've formed Associations based on those untruths.

Smoking a cigarette makes me calmer before a big interview!
- It also makes you stink like a smoker and may cause you to be disqualified before you ever answer the first question! Besides, after an hour or two of intense stress the active addicts will be in desperate nicotine depletion withdrawal anxiety and unable to concentrate on the issue at hand. The non or ex-smoker however will not be feeling extra anxious due to withdrawal effects and can keep their mind on the interviewers questions - not the door.

Smoking helps me 'Kill' time.
- Smoking tobacco every 60 minutes to keep nicotine levels at optimum - that's really 'killing time'.

Only one reason smokers inhale tobacco smoke - ingest nicotine to feed their addiction.

Only one way to stay free - NTAP!
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whiteknucklinnewbie
whiteknucklinnewbie

March 24th, 2007, 6:31 am #20

I really like this thread, JoeJ. Thank you for keeping it up.
Amy

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1m 21:31 smoke-free, 576 cigs not smoked, $72.86 saved, 2d 0:00 life saved
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

August 11th, 2007, 1:14 am #21

Don't kid yourself - or anyone else - we are dealing with addiction cessation. None of us were ever successful by attempting to modify our behavior by 'breaking that nasty habit'. Another of the pack of lies we've been told and sold for so long.
Why is that?
Cause what we are dealing with,
what we are afflicted with
is not anything resembling a simple habit.

As Joel so famously puts it -

"I always state it this way. Treat an addiction as an addiction and a person will learn to control it. Treat an addiction like a bad habit and the person won't have a prayer."



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Crystal View1.ffn
Crystal View1.ffn

August 11th, 2007, 11:34 pm #22

Thanks JoeJ ! I am humbled by Joel's statement, at the same time, I have great respect for it. NTAP! Katie

"Cause what we are dealing with,
what we are afflicted with
is not anything resembling a simple habit."

Katie - After 40 Years! Free and Healing for Two Years, Nine Months, Twenty Four Days, 2 Hours and 32 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 60 Days and 16 Hours, by avoiding the use of 17478 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $3,647.50.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

September 20th, 2007, 8:55 pm #23

Another good link to leave here.
Why Do People Smoke?
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

August 2nd, 2008, 12:29 am #24

False Associations........

I can't drink coffee or a beer or tea or a mixed drink or a soda pop....etc without wanting to smoke a cigarette! Why? Can never or non-smokers drink these liquids without triggering a thought to smoke some tobacco? Sure they can. If they can we ex-smokers can too. We can do anything we want to do without need of want of ingesting nicotine.

Break free from past false associations, justifications, rationalizations and let the truth set you free. You do not need nicotine for any reason. LIVE your life - clean of nicotine and free as you were alwyas meant to be!

Joe J 1299 days in control cause nicotine no longer in me.
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Gary
Gary

February 4th, 2010, 10:05 pm #25

Thanks for what you wrote.  You gave me hope that someday I won't miss cigarettes.  I'm still one day, often just ten-minutes at a time.  I hope that someday I actually go a whole day, half-day, without thinking of cigarettes!  When that does happen, I hope I remember that I've just accomplished that feat and I hope I celebrate!  Lots of hopes I guess!
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