Emotional Loss Experienced from Quitting Smoking

The emotions that flow from nicotine cessation
BillW Gold.ffn
BillW Gold.ffn

January 16th, 2005, 11:27 pm #41

Hi RickD, and welcome to Freedom!

Fantasy cigarettes sound like the Bargaining phase of grieving for your addiction. It means that your quit is progressing, and you are healing.... just remember to win the argument against that inner voice that says "just one...".
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

February 19th, 2005, 6:53 am #42

There's a rose bud slowly opening and it's you!
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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

March 25th, 2005, 11:22 pm #43

  • Not one tastebud inside either lung, where we intentionally sucked smoke
  • No love lost for the 43 carcinogens in each puff
  • No love for any of the 4,000 non-flavor chemicals
  • No love when we waited too long and badly needed a fix
  • No love for having interrupted some of life's best moments to leave and feed
  • No love for paying our own money to slowly destroy a bit more of our body's ability to receive and transport life-giving oxygen
  • No love for killing ourself 13 to 14 years early
  • Knowledge that 100% of cigarette flavor additives are still available in non-addictive form
  • Knowledge that the more than 200 neurochemicals we used nicotine to steal were each already ours.
  • Knowledge that arresting our chemical dependency and returning neurochemical control to us and life is as basic as no nicotine just one day at a time, to Never Take Another Puff!
  • An appreciation for the fact that every cessation related sensation we experience during this amazing temporary journey of re-adjustment is part of our healing at the physical (re-sensitization), subconscious (trigger re-conditioning) or conscious level (an opportunity to shed honest light on years of denial rationalizations, minimizations and blame transference).
  • The honest realization that with each passing day the challenges will gradually become fewer, shorter in duration and generally less intense.
  • An understanding that should we experience a few days during early recovery without significant challenge that we will naturally drop our coping defenses, and when a challenge is at last encountered it may feel more intense - a wonderful sign that the gaps between challenges are widening.
Our dependency is now under arrest.
Free and healing, the next few moments are doable!
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BillW Gold.ffn
BillW Gold.ffn

April 19th, 2005, 12:27 am #44

For MaryMac, with my condolences.

I have also lost loved ones, and the process of grieving the loss of a loved one is very similar to the process of "grieving" the loss of an addiction.

In both cases, you really can't go back. You can't allow yourself to become stuck in one phase forever, either.

The way out is the way through. God be with you.

BillW
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whosthisitsmesilly
whosthisitsmesilly

March 23rd, 2006, 12:40 am #45

Ive had all the stages. The last one was depression What for? I used the tools i have read on here to cope with it and use logic. Especialy when i have been out with friends who smoke and ive had a drink with. I think its coping being me now ! without nicotine. I have accepted its an addiction and i dont need nicotine. I can live life and enjoy it without nicotine.


I have been quit for 2 Weeks, 16 hours, 41 minutes and 12 seconds (14 days). I have saved £60.98 by not smoking 293 cigarettes. I have saved 1 Day and 25 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 08/03/2006 00:00
cathy
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chel
chel

April 12th, 2006, 6:46 pm #46

I thought I had acceptance but yesterday and today Ive been dipping into depression
all the great education on here and my head (addict) is telling me Ill never be happy without cigs.boy do I know that one and of course smoking does not make me happyI have been quit for 4 Weeks, 2 Days, 5 hours, 46 minutes and 3 seconds (30 days). I have saved £78.62 by not smoking 302 cigarettes. I have saved 1 Day, 1 hour and 10 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 13/03/2006 06:00
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

October 22nd, 2006, 2:25 am #47

If you have not yet read Joel's Library from cover to cover at least once then now is a great time. Don't skip the "Why Do People Smoke" chapter as it's loaded with pearls of wisdom on a host of logical yet faulty rationalizations. The chapter is a wonderful aid in helping sort through years of often less than honest thinking.
Baby steps! The next few minutes are entirely doable and there is only one rule - no nicotine, not a puff! Everything you did while dependent upon nicotine you can do as well as or better as "you!" I know it's hard to believe right now but before long you'll see that it's much much easier being a comfortable and relaxed ex-smoker than it ever was feeding nicotine's never ending two-hour chemical half-life! Just one rule ... no nicotine just one hour, challenge and day at a time. The next few minutes are all that matter and each is entirely do-able!
Breathe deep, hug hard, live long! John
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Joel
Joel

November 25th, 2006, 3:46 am #48

The video version of this thread:
The emotional stages of loss Dial UP
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VICKIGOLD2006
VICKIGOLD2006

February 23rd, 2007, 3:26 am #49

This is the thread that made this all possible for me...thanks Joel

VICKI - Free and Healing for Six Months, Nineteen Days, 21 Hours and 56 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 14 Days and 3 Hours, by avoiding the use of 4078 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $925.35.
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JoeJFree Gold
JoeJFree Gold

March 14th, 2007, 3:21 am #50

From Paragraph 9 of the initial post by Joel:

.....What does all this have to do with why people don't quit smoking? People who attempt to give up smoking go through these five stages. They must successfully overcome each specific phase to deal with the next. Some people have particular difficulty conquering a specific phase, .......
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Joel
Joel

August 3rd, 2007, 6:49 am #51

Bargaining is probably the most dangerous stage in the effort to stop smoking. "Oh boy, I could sneak this one and nobody will ever know it." "Things are really tough today, I will just have one to help me over this problem, no more after that." "Maybe I'll just smoke today, and quit again tomorrow." It may be months before these people even attempt to quit again.
I could have added this one to the paragraph above:

"Maybe its just too dangerous for me to quit smoking."
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SMJ69
SMJ69

February 14th, 2008, 10:43 am #52

Thanks, I needed that.

Steve, Free for 3 weeks, 2 days,23 minutes , 41 secs, having not smoked 479 death sticks, saving 116.15, gaining 1 day , 15 mins.
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Krissy
Krissy

March 22nd, 2010, 6:36 pm #53

Boy, I can really relate to the depression.  I am on day 22, and I am not having a very good few days.  I think I probably am mourning the loss of cigarrettes.   
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donendusted
donendusted

June 11th, 2010, 1:16 am #54

Hi Joel and all others who have contributed to this forum.
Deb - Free and Healing for Twenty Five Days, 3 Hours and 1 Minute, while extending my life expectancy 1 Day and 7 Hours, by avoiding the use of 377 death sticks that would have cost me $207.50.
You would think I had hopefully zoomed past these stages as I have now been nicotine free for 25 days. I seem to be experiencing a huge problem with craving, for the last 2 - 3 days I feel like I absolutely must have a cigarette. So much so that I have not been able to focus on my work, my poor family have had the sharp end of the stick. My husband was supposed to be quitting nicotine with me but has had a relapse and I'm sure I am feeling like I have been left behind. Why does he get to enjoy (lol) the evil monsters if I can't. I have been fixating on situations where we used to enjoy a nice hot coffee (it's winter here in Oz). I have come to realise it is the situations I am missing and not the cigarette. The crave has been so strong yesterday and today, I nearly went and bought a packet this morning. Thank heavens I didn't. And I have been reading lots of info on the whyquit site but hadn't stumbled across the right thing until now. After reading the info on emotional loss I am stuck, stuck, stuck in the "Depression - "Looks like I'm going to make it but how can I possibly function without smoking nicotine?" "I don't feel like smoker and I'm no comfortable ex-smoker either." "I feel lost." "I feel so alone." s
tage.
I have been feeling incredibly isolated as my husband is smoking and I feel like I have no-one to share the trials, tribulations and successes with. This has most definitely helped me a great deal today and prevented an almost certain relapse.
Thanks All.

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hwc
hwc

June 11th, 2010, 5:41 am #55

Just so you know you are not alone, I found weeks 3 and 4 to be what I describe as "very tedious". The newness and adreneline rush of the first days is over, but you aren't far enough along to be feeling a lot of comfort yet. I was never in danger of smoking, but there were times when I was really tired of working thru crave/triggers. Honestly, you just have to keep trudging along, using the same tools that have gotten you this far. Count each day as a win and know that its a dynamic process. Today isn't like yesterday and tomorrow won't be like today.
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FreedomNicotine
FreedomNicotine

June 11th, 2010, 1:33 pm #56

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April 24th, 2013, 12:40 pm #57

[font=ARIAL, GEORGIA, 'TIMES NEW ROMAN', TIMES, SERIF]Research shows quitting smoking often helps depressionApril 2013  - by BeyondBlue.org

Quitting smoking can significantly improve people’s mental health, according to research, which has uncovered a series of important findings.

The beyondblue-funded research underpins a new booklet, Depression and quitting smoking, which addresses the unique challenges that people with depression face when trying to give up.Quit Victoria Executive Director Fiona Sharkie said the perception that people with depression can’t or don’t want to quit is wrong.

“With the right support, not only can people with depression quit, but their depression often improves,” she said. “We know that people often smoke to ease stress or boost their mood, but the opposite is actually true. Research has shown quitting smoking eases depressive symptoms and those effects can last for as long as the smoker stays off the cigarettes.”

The research findings include:

- Smokers are more than twice as likely to report that they regularly feel depressed when compared to ex-smokers who gave up six months earlier.

- Many people with depression quit successfully, but overall are a third less likely to do so than people who aren’t depressed.

beyondblue CEO Kate Carnell said the research has been used to create the free booklet that is aimed at people with depression who want to quit. Ms Carnell said that, despite seeming hard, quitting is the best thing smokers can do for their health.

“We’ve always known the physical benefits of giving up, but this study shows the impact that quitting smoking can also have on people’s moods,” she said. “This study shows that while 37% of smokers say they recently had a prolonged period of feeling down, this number is more than halved to 16% among those who quit six months ago. The figure is 34% for those who try to quit but fail within the first six months, suggesting that even quitting temporarily has some mental health benefits.

“This book advises people with depression that they are capable of giving up cigarettes – just like people who aren’t depressed. It gives information about why they smoke, how to make a plan to quit and strategies they can use to quit once and for all. I urge anyone with depression who smokes to order a copy of the booklet and read it.”

The research was conducted by Dr Catherine Segan from The University of Melbourne’s School of Population and Global Health. For a six-month period, it tracked more than 800 people who contacted Quitline for advice on how to quit, including a quarter with depression.

The research found while people with depression found it more challenging to quit than other people, many were still successful, with one-third having quit successfully six months after first contacting Quitline. This compared with about half of other participants in the research who weren’t depressed.

On the down side, the research also found that 18% of participants with depression reported a significant increase in depression symptoms within two months of quitting compared with 5% of people who had never been depressed. However half of those who had an increase in depression symptoms said they believed it was unrelated to the quit attempt. The research was also unable to draw a direct link between any increase in depressive symptoms and quitting.

Ms Carnell said the findings are a reminder that people with depression who try to quit should do so in consultation with their doctor.

“We know from the research that a third of people with depression have quit successfully six months after first contacting Quitline,” she said. “Quitting can be a challenge for someone with depression, but as this research shows, it can be done.”

Source link: http://www.beyondblue.org.au/media/medi ... depression

Copyright 2013 BeyondBlue



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February 28th, 2014, 4:37 pm #58

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March 2nd, 2014, 6:22 pm #59

Video ties into the bargaining phase discussed in this string: Smoking a cigarette will help me secure my quit
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