BillW Gold.ffn
BillW Gold.ffn

June 6th, 2003, 10:38 am #11

Hi Grace!

Its interesting that you should bring up this topic just when........

........well, anyways, I for one agree with you. While a real, physical book would not have the online support that Freedom does, there is still a huge part of the human race that doesn't own computers, and yet have easy access to tobacco.

Joel has made this material freely available, and I understand that while it all carries copyright notices that when it shows up on other sites (and it does), that he allows it.

But the decision to write a book.... or to publish the one that he's already written ......that decision is up to Joel.

BillW
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BillW Gold.ffn

June 6th, 2003, 10:38 am #12

..... and no, Joel, I didn't put Grace up to this.

BillW
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BubblyDoodlebug Gold
BubblyDoodlebug Gold

June 11th, 2003, 12:22 am #13

OK I know I am only a month old but I think a book with the one page writings and DON'T TAKE ANOTHER PUFF at the end of each one would be great. Before I joined I copied lots and lots of stuff. I bought a pretty three ring binder and put holes in my sheets and put it in the binder. I carry this in my brief case for when I am at work for three days straight. I love having it and I share it. It's like a devotional. I went from packing my cigs to packing my book. See Joel you do have a book out there and you did write it and it is all mine. Thanks for the book. If you do decide to publish a book you could even have some of the people in the group share and put in the different pictures from the post. A few blank pages so people could journal a bit and write down their quit dates. It would be so cool. In fact I am going to do this with my book, after I leave the computer. You already have a title. Don't Take Another Puff If you end up at Borders doing a signing I will be there, but you have to buy me a cup of coffee. OK I'll buy yours.
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BubblyDoodlebug Gold
BubblyDoodlebug Gold

June 11th, 2003, 12:25 am #14

Joel I am so very sorry "NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF" In all my excitement I became confused. Please forgive me. Katherine
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CKay87
CKay87

June 11th, 2003, 12:58 am #15

"I guess I don't think writing a book is going to really help the masses. It would get put on a shelf in a bookstore sitting next to the dozens and dozens of books out there. I find it hard enough to get people to read my stuff for free let alone paying for it."

You are a saint, Joel. Sure you could help the masses by writing a book - it would get you on Oprah!
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Grace
Grace

June 11th, 2003, 1:24 am #16

Just wanted to say that I wasn't put up to this really! I just love to read and right now I don't have access to a computer at home, my computer took a dive while moving and I have some boards to replace. I have been burning the printer up at work though and have my favorite articles with me all the time. Thank you to everyone who works so hard to bring this website together and contributes. My life for this past (ALMOST A MONTH and yes I am grinning while counting) has been full of some really difficult moments but also full with reading, being gratefull to everyone here and celebrating my life. Grace
Free for 4 weeks, 1 hour,41 minutes,49 seconds. I have not smoked 561 seconds. I have saved 119.21. I will be green on 061303 at 7:45pm! Yippee
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BillW Gold.ffn
BillW Gold.ffn

June 11th, 2003, 1:34 am #17

sorry Grace..... I don't mean to be cryptic, and my post was kinda an inside joke with Joel.

For the last month or so I've been working on bringing together Joel's library as an "ebook", an electronic book, with a cover page and a table of contents and an index and the whole thing. Your post popped up right in the middle of that effort, and I was kidding Joel that I hadn't set you up to makeing it....

If the ebook works out, and the managers approve, it should be offered here for download (current estimates is its about 1.6 Megabytes with the color pictures.). You'll be able to print the whole thing (about 225 pages) or any part, and can have it on your own computer to read, copy onto a disk for others to read, etc.

.....that also gets it just one step shy of sending the manuscript off to a publisher.... but that's a step only one person can take......

BillW One year, four months, two days, 4 hours . 14615 cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,886.36. Life saved: 7 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 55 minutes.
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Grace
Grace

June 11th, 2003, 1:56 am #18

That is really great! Please let us know if the ebook works out. I would love to have it.
Reading about my addiction has been the one thing that has actually stayed in the foremost part of my brain and many times in the last month has kept me from taking another puff. Having that knowledge is an incredible gift! Grace
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Joel
Joel

June 12th, 2003, 7:52 am #19

From what I understand Bill is putting on some finishing touches to "The Book." Hopefully it will be ready for distribution in a day or two. Actually, all of the materials in it are already available on our site, but Bill has done a spectacular job at laying it out in a logical and easy to read and indexed format. I hope you all download a copy to have on your own computer and feel free to email it and pass along to anyone at all interested in quitting. For those times that your Internet connection may be down it can be a good resource.

I want to thank Bill for all of the time and effort he has put into this project. I truly hope that his efforts help you to help yourselves and to help others achieve long-term success by simply understanding how to quit and and how to stay smoke-free forever by staying totally committed to never take another puff.

Joel
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June 13th, 2003, 4:41 am #20

Well we have a book at Freedom and WhyQuit.com. It may get a little revised yet, we may move it to another site for downloading, or over time we may figure out new routes of distribution. But for now we have it in a way where you can all download it and pass it along via email to others or print it out to give to people you care about.

I wish to once again thank Bill for the effort he put in to laying out the book and to all of those here at Freedom who kept harping on us to put it out in an easier to distribute format. I should also note that John has been encouraging me to put this kind of book together for over three years now as well as Joanne, Linda and many others. Bill was just more persuasive--he did all the work for me.

Actually, John did a marvelous job of laying out the online version of Joel's Library quite some time ago and we know that thousands of people have read through it and are hopefully benefiting from the material. Also I need to thank Dave who has done some major editing and proofreading over the past year as well as Melissa who has done much of our customized artwork.

While I am at it I wish to thank Bob for giving WhyQuit.com the professional look that it has today and of course to once again thank John for creating www.WhyQuit.com, inviting me in to be part of it and for putting in such a tireless effort to this day letting the world know that we is out here and to help the smokers of the world who feel that they are hopelessly addicted to know that there is a way to quit smoking that is affordable to all. We really are an inspired team of people here at Freedom.

I hope we see similar results from this new format to what we have seen from our previous formats now. So read away everyone and feel free to pass along to all you know the knowledge that to quit smoking and to be able to stay successfully smoke free is to follow the one simple rule in the title, on top of each page and at the end of every article which is to stay a successful ex-smoker is as simple as just staying committed to never take another puff!

Joel

http://whyquit.com/joel/ntap.pdf

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OBob Gold
OBob Gold

June 13th, 2003, 5:34 am #21

Great news! I hadn't looked in on this thread before, because I knew the answer (or I thought I did).

Bill, you rock!

Joel, you rock too!

Ditto John!

Thanks for the book, guys. I'm gonna download it and have it on hand for distribution to the next non-computer user looking for help.
Bob
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OBob Gold
OBob Gold

June 13th, 2003, 5:43 am #22

Just emailed it to a doctor friend of mine, suggesting that he a) hand it out to any patient expressing a desire to quit, and b) leave a copy in his waiting room.

I think the waiting room thing could be an EXCELLENT place for people to read this. They're at a doc's office, so their health is on their mind. And they've got time to read (what else do you do in a doctor's waiting room).

Reaches a whole new audience.

This is totally AWESOME! (for some reason, my California vernacular's coming out today)

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John (Gold)
John (Gold)

June 13th, 2003, 8:21 am #23

An Important Moment for Many!

Wowsers Bill, thanks for all your hard work! I hope you appreciate what you've done. Most importantly, you've made an amazing collection of insightful wisdom, with the potential to change thousands of lives, more mobile and accessible than ever before. But on top of that, you've forever deprived Joel from being able to say that "he doesn't have a book!" Yes, Joel's first book may have been electric, free and bound by thee, but that doesn't mean that this isn't a very important moment that's coming to the lives of many! Since it's free, by definition it cannot become a best seller but it may help thousands unload the worst buy they're forced to make - nicotine!

We've just finished adding and amending links on the following pages:
  • Freedom's Joel's Library index page where the PDF will remain available for download, with our thanks to Bill
  • WhyQuit.Com's main page where the PDF file will remain a permanent direct link with our thanks to Bill
  • WhyQuit's Joel's Library index page where the PDF file will remain a permanent download link
  • WhyQuit's What's New? where we'll give visitors notice of its addition for a few months, with
  • With an oh so small thanks on WhyQuit's About Us page.
There are soooo many names not listed there that have contributed so much toward helping create some amazing tools, that have transformed this place into what it is today, including some still active in the posting like Nora, Kim, Joy, Marty, Ed and the list goes on and on and on! Thank you Bill!
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Joel
Joel

June 18th, 2003, 7:05 am #24

The book was updated today. We added a new preface and updated the acknowledgement for Bill's layout work. For those of you who downloaded it already and don't want to download it again I will attach the new text below. For those who have not downloaded it yet, if you download it now it will be the latest version.
Preface
Never take another puff
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Txgranny (Gold)
Txgranny (Gold)

June 18th, 2003, 9:14 pm #25

Very impressed!!!! This is wonderful!!!!

I am so glad ya'll did this, I think it will reach many more people, thanks so much for working so hard to put this together.

I have a doctor's appointment next week and I will print and take this to him.

Txgranny
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June 19th, 2003, 7:32 pm #26

Well last night I was handed a copy of my book. I actually was wondering if many people were actually going to print it out, especially considering the fact that I hadn't printed one out yet. Well here I was about to start a seminar when one of our Freedom members, Tessie, who also happened to have quit smoking in my last clinic came in and handed me over my own personal copy. I was touched. Not only that, but another Freedom member, AIR, who also graduated my last group came in and told me she had printed herself out a copy too. Not only that, but Tessie said she had already printed out two others that she had passed along to other people who didn't have Internet access. I am thrilled to know people are doing this.

It was a pretty interesting seminar. The first five people there were all Freedom members. It was not set up to be this way, it just kind of happened. Then we had two people who were clinic graduates of mine not affiliated with Freedom coming in for reinforcement, one person who started a clinic four months ago but only stayed a few days and felt that it was so easy he didn't need the rest, who went on to lose the quit, who came in to start again, and two people who were hopefully planning on quitting last night. Actually one was planning, I am not totally sure of the other ones intention yet.

One of the people there was the woman who had used NRT for 12 years before I had met her. She had spent over $15,000 on NRT over that time period and had never truly broken free from nicotine. I actually thought it was $10,000 dollars she had saved but she did the math for me last night. Actually she said that she had one time period early on in that time that lasted a few months but had relapsed by taking a stick of nicotine gum. That stick ended costing her thousands of dollars and kept her in a perpetual state of drug withdrawal. Now she was feeling really free for the first time in over a decade.

I think all of the people who came in for reinforcement really helped to show the two who were there looking to quit that life is really a whole lot better as an ex-smoker. I hope everyone here appreciates the great symbiotic relationship that we all have here at Freedom. Our longer-term members showing that quitting is possible and that life is so much better without smoking, our newest members reminding our longer-term members how hard and yet important quitting is and making them cherish their newfound Freedom even more.

Again, I hope all of you find the opportunity to help others you care about to find real Freedom. Whether it be by letting them know about WhyQuit.com and Freedom, or giving them a book, or best of all, by continuing to set for them the example that permanent quitting is possible and life becomes better once you take the leap and stick to your commitment to never take another puff!

Joel
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StepperM
StepperM

June 19th, 2003, 10:37 pm #27

THANKS FOR THE BOOK!
This is absolutely awesome!!
I am amazed at the work BillW put into compiling all of articles!
You all are the best!
I have already printed a copy for myself to have when I have the need to read. I've also printed 2 other copies for my sister and brother-in-law who have both talked about wanting to quit. I've also emailed to some other friends. Great idea to have a copy at the doctor's office too, thanks OBob, I'm going to do that!

From a very grateful Freegirl
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Gr8fulGirl Silver
Gr8fulGirl Silver

June 20th, 2003, 5:47 am #28

Hi Joel,

Wanted to add to the list of THANK YOU's for this amazing book! I have been reading it on-line, and have printed out a copy to send to my mother-in-law. Pretty amazing that several of your seminar members were Freedomites! I have a question for you, if you happen to see this post...Do you ever do seminars in Houston, Texas? I was looking at your website and noticed most, if not all, of your seminars are in Illinois? I personally do not live in Houston, but a family member does. Thank you again for your incredible book and your incredible gift of yourself and your wisdom and support to this website and it's worldwide membership!!!!

Gr8ful Girl
I have been quit for 1 Month, 1 Week, 4 Days
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Joel
Joel

June 20th, 2003, 6:23 pm #29

Hello Gr8ful Girl:

All of the clinics and most of the seminars I have done have been in the Chicago area. I have done a few professional conferences in other states or in other parts of Illinois, but in all honesty I don't like doing clinics too far from home. The programs go a couple of weeks where I would have to be away from my home base of operations. I basically have operated a live hotline for my clinic graduates for the past 25 years and being away for two weeks would leave managing those calls difficult. Before 2000 I had a few people I worked with who would help me handle those calls for short time periods. Actually, with technological changes in pagers and cellular phones I could take the clinics on the road now, but as of this time I don't have any strong interest in doing that. I really feel like I would be spread too thin.

That is the beauty of the Internet though. Through www.WhyQuit.com and Freedom we can reach far more people from far more distances than I could ever travel. Now with the book, which I see people from here are printing out and distributing and hearing the same thing from some of my clinic graduates, even people who don't have Internet access are benefiting from the material. I really have tried to put all of the material out here on the Internet that I use in the clinics, it just takes a little more work on the person quitting to get the information--meaning the individual has to read the articles as opposed to me spelling it out for him or her.

I have had numerous people come to the clinics from other areas, but at this point in time I really think people can save a lot of money and time quitting with us here at Freedom or just by working with the materials at www.WhyQuit.com. The communication technologies that we have today has really made the need to travel around the world to get information a little obsolete--at least in the case of getting simple information. Quitting smoking is really a pretty simple process too, it is simply coming to the understanding that quitting is something that you should do for a lot of reasons, something that you want to do for many reasons, and something that you can do by simply stopping the administration of any source of nicotine and then understanding never to administer it again via any source. To stay smoke free is as simple as keeping your personal resolve reinforced and strong to never take another puff!

Joel
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Gr8fulGirl Silver
Gr8fulGirl Silver

June 21st, 2003, 6:53 am #30

Thank you Joel, I'm going to print out your book and pass it along to my mother-in-law. I guess I am just yearning to get her to stop smoking so that she is around to see her grandchildren grow up - and hopefully by living the example myself, she'll have the desire to make her own choice to never take another puff, someday soon. I think I will go read your writings on getting other people to quit so that I don't continue to drive myself crazy! Thanks again, and I won't keep bringing this post back to the top.

Gr8ful Girl
43 days
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DanQuit Silver
DanQuit Silver

June 21st, 2003, 1:52 pm #31

Thanks to all the people that helped create the ebook. I printed it out and had it professionally binded yesterday.

Actually a few days ago I emailed the Freedom/Whyquit managers saying they should create a book, I hadn't noticed this thread at the time.
Once again thanks to everyone who helped with the book. I plan on printing and binding two more copies for family members.

Dan.
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Joel
Joel

September 10th, 2003, 9:13 pm #32

Yesterday we made a couple of revisions in the ebook at www.whyquit.com/joel/ntap.pdf. One revision was a minor statistic change in a couple of articles. Another was the inclusion of "The Smoking Dream" article, which we forgot to put in the first time around. The third and to me the most significant change was that Bill was able to get the size of the PDF file down to 1.3 megabytes. That means that the entire book now fits on a floppy disk. The reason that this change was so important to me was it now means you can give the entire book on one floppy disk to friends or family members who may have slower Internet connections or who are skittish about downloading files off the Internet. Feel free to distribute the book to as many people who you know who have any interest in starting their quits or to ex-smokers you know who you feel would find the material beneficial in reinforcing their ongoing efforts to never take another puff.

Joel
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Joel
Joel

October 29th, 2003, 10:30 am #33

Here is a little history of the creation of the e-book.
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Joel
Joel

April 29th, 2008, 3:56 am #34

A question was raised about the origin of the phrase "Never Take Another Puff." Made me think of this one which talks about the origin of the e-book.

This video talks about the phrase too:
Video Title Dial Up High Speed Audio MP3 Audio Length Created
What is your quit smoking mantra? 8.60mb 14.0mb 3.55mb 5.79mb 12:47 11/17/06
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stoneris1
stoneris1

April 29th, 2008, 4:59 am #35

And, Joel, if people are still downloading your "book" at a rate of a thousand a day, then over the years you would have had a best seller, and maybe you wouldn't have made bundles, but you'd certainly be better off financially than you are now (and you are a rich man in so many ways). Certainly, I am grateful that your work has been free. Frankly, I would have paid for all that you have to offer, including a book and your consultation work on this forum. But you are doing it all for free and helping so many, many people because of it. I am ever grateful that you are such a kind soul, along with all the other old timers and managers and assistant managers that hang out here helping people like me along. If there is a heaven, and I'm am agnostic, you'd have a place near the main man (and so would all the helpers here). You do great work. You certainly are deserving of all the good that might come your way, and I hope much good comes your way. We, I, certainly owe you. You have no doubt by now saved thousands of lives. You've no doubt improved that quality of life of countless more.

I thank you even though I'm only on day 17. I am ever grateful. My wife and kids are ever grateful for you and all those here at Freedom and whyquit.com.

NTAN.

Jim Stoner
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