Are there "social smokers?"

Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:59

13 May 2003, 06:03 #11

Hi joel
I was that social smoker and then a secret smoker,i started with borrowing cigarettes and then the next day i would buy a pack but smoke in secret.The next stage was buying my own when going out at weekends,after all it was,nt polite to keep borrowing.My friends wife is a so called social smoker but guess what i seen her take one on a monday after all it had been a stressful day.I don,t believe that smoking comes with a part time membership because in time the membership becomes full time.I think that social smoker faces constant withdrawal and i have even witnessed someone socialise more to feed their addiction.
Rickdabler 2 months 3 days 19hrs happily nicotine free.Image

John (Gold)
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

13 May 2003, 20:50 #12

You may not like the new clean indoor-air laws outlawing selective indoor burning that are quickly creeping across the globe, but as the below article points out, many who "thought" they were social smokers are finding out that come feeding time ... it's time to feed! More hard cold freezing reality might tend to expose a few more of the lies accompanying each destructive puff of nicotine! Looks like nicotine dependent "stars" are going to be getting to know their fans a better! John

Celebs smoked out of bars
By Donna Freydkin, special for USA TODAY
May 12, 2003

NEW YORK - This spring and summer, celeb-hungry gawkers can skip the velvet-roped clubs and cruise the streets for some nighttime stargazing.
That's because Manhattan's new smoking ban, which went into ironclad effect on April 30 (after a 30-day grace period) and prohibits cigarettes in bars and restaurants with very few exceptions, is forcing many nicotine-craving A-listers out of their private VIP rooms and on to very public city corners for their smoke breaks. It's why John Malkovich, who lives in smoker-friendly France, was forced to leave the premiere of his directorial debut TheDancer Upstairs on April 29 and inhale outside the Bryant Park Hotel on an unseasonably cold spring evening.

A day earlier at the Metropolitan Museum of Art's gala for the Costume Institute, supermodel Gisele Bundchen stepped out for numerous tobacco breaks, at times joined by Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter, one of those adamantly opposed to the ban.

"I can't stand it," Carter says. "It ignores the vanity of New York. Michael Bloomberg has forgotten what it's like to be 25 in New York and that most people want to go out and drink and smoke at the end of the day."

But many are still doing that - just outdoors. On March 31, the very day the smoking ban first went into effect, Colin Farrell puffed on a cigarette outside the New York premiere of his thriller Phone Booth. Even pop star Britney Spears isn't above the law - she was asked to put out her cigarette at Underbar and Show nightspots recently.

Smokin' Sci Fi Channel host and 90210 alum Shannen Doherty lights up outside NoHo's trendy eatery Serafina, where she's a regular, the restaurant's publicist says.

"Now that the good weather's here, it's not so bad. People can go outside and have a cigarette," says Blondie frontwoman and downtown Manhattan resident Deborah Harry. "It does make the inside places much more comfortable, and maybe it'll help a lot of people to quit smoking."

Still, not all non-smokers are down with the new rules. "I think it's ridiculous," Gina Gershon says. "It's not right. You should have a smoking section inside, but right now, people are all outside of empty clubs and bars."

Smoking has been prohibited at city restaurants with more than 35 seats since 1995, but stand-alone bars were exempt from the ban, until Bloomberg's new law took effect. Now, owners are subjected to fines of $200 to $400 for a first offense and $500 to $1,000 for a second offense. The licenses of repeat offenders can be revoked, and that's why bars mean business when they tell you to put out that cigarette.

But while some celebs lament the new law, others couldn't be happier.

"I've given up smoking, so it's quite good for me, quite handy," says Down With Love star Ewan McGregor, who was in town for a visit.
© Copyright 2003 USA TODAY


Kath (Green)
Joined: 07 Jan 2009, 19:38

14 May 2003, 13:29 #13


I have a sister who I always classed as a "social smoker" - smoking about 5 per day, unless some big social event was on where she would smoke like a chimney like the rest of us. She has now tried to quit several times unsuccessfully.

My question is this. When I stopped I have noticed wonderful things happening, taste, smell, money - you know all the good stuff. However because of her low consumption, she didn't seem to get these positive gains - obviously because she wasn't suffering all that much while she was smoking. Any articles or advice I can share with her and try to convince her to have another go?


I have been quit for 1 Month, 5 Days and 48 minutes (35 days). I have saved $441.42 by not smoking 1,226 cigarettes. I have saved 4 Days, 6 hours and 10 minutes of my life.

Joined: 07 Jan 2009, 19:01

10 Jan 2004, 06:24 #14

Around the beach here, those referred to as social smokers are the ones who smoke very little if any all day. Then, in the evening from cocktail hour on, they chain smoke for hours. I understand about alcohol expediting expulsion of nicotine via kidneys. The evening nicotine frenzy appears much like a nicotine "pig out". These people do carry their on cigs. The "bummers" do not. I know people who have bummed cigarettes at parties for many years. I've noticed that they are really on again, off again smokers. We just usually see them at parties. There are a lot of angry people around in perpetual withdrawal expressing their rage. The human environment is no longer supportive of the addiction. Smoking among other things is most inconvenient. I guess it doesn't matter what class or category we filed ourselves as addicts as long as we can convince ourselves to never take another puff.
I have been quit for 5 Days, 19 hours, 54 minutes and 39 seconds (5 days). I have saved $26.23 by not smoking 174 cigarettes. I have saved 14 hours and 30 minutes of my life.

Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 01:47

17 Jan 2004, 13:29 #15

Hello Everyone!

I was one of these smokers who could puff under five a day, but my addiction is obvious and apparent to me! If I did not have each ciggarette as planned I would get more than agitated. My nicotine schedule was very rigid . And this incldued right after yoga. Before a bath. When on the phone. If upset or happy. If I was unable to ingest nico-drug at EXACTLY at these times, I was a monster.

And when I went out or was creating I'd suddenly smoke more and more.

Then, of course the next day I'd taper down again to make up for my excess.

Really ridiculous and took a lot of energy out of my every waking minute, for it seemed I was always worrying about when I would have my next cigg and where.

I had been wondering in these early days of my quit if perhaps I'm not really a smoker (my mind attempting to rationalize my addiction, obviously). I've been trying to convince myself in various ways that I could probably have just one someday. However, I've tried to quit again and again and it was ALWAYS this 'social' smoke that got me back into my nicotine habit. And believe me, even though my intake was not up to a pack the intensity of my addiction was just as severe. I started smoking at the age of 12. And now I'm almost 40. So for 28 years I've focused all this energy on smoking (even when I wasn't having a cigg).

I'm really looking forward to being able to think on other things.

I pray for the strength and knowledge and support to do so.


Clarity who is ten daze into freedom and happy that (at least) 70 ciggs were not smoked.

Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:59

09 Feb 2004, 06:35 #16

Hello, I know this is an older thread but I would like to address it. I was the exact kind of smoker Joel is speaking of here. I could easily smoke only three or five cigarettes in a day. For years this is how I smoked. Mostly because I was a closet smoker. Also more than 6 or 7 cigarettes would make my throat sore and give me a headache. How foolish could I have been to keep smoking in the first place??

BUT.............................. I did and I always felt quitting was even harder for me because I was always in a constant state of withdrawal even when I was smoking so even withdrawal felt normal. How sick is that? So I am glad to see my quit feelings validated. I also blew a 4 year quit from thinking I could do a social puff. No it just can not happen. Now with the education from this site I know that and this is why this quit for me is so different. I know this time it is for real and how to keep it for real. Not that I even have craves anymore.

Gosh I did have a smoking dream after three years of being quit and that was a shock. It was so real and I was so upset with myself. The cigarette did not taste good and my husband caught me smoking it and when I woke up I was crying so hard I could not go back to sleep . Even though I knew it was a dream. I fretted over this dream for a few days.

So not taking any more time on this. Just adding my 2 cents worth on a social smoker and their addictions. Thanks Joel :^) Again!!

Chris 3 Years 3 Months 8 Days Woo Hoo :^)))))))))))))))))))

Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

10 Oct 2006, 09:08 #17

I spoke with a classmate who said "I only smoke, when I drive." When I asked how often she drove, she answered "Every day."

I have a friend who lectured me about smoking ten years ago when we went to school together. Since then, he became an MD and a smoker. Some only smoke when they drink, some only on weekends, they all seem to have ways to describe their "non-habit."

I used to be so jealous of people who are able to be social smokers. This jealousy is really just a way of legitamizing the fantasy of one=one. This feeling is nothing more than a simple craving to me now.

I like being a nonsmoker, it feels like a credential. A credential with fancier perks than "social smoker" or "occasional smoker."

Rick - Free and Healing for Two Months, Eight Days, 15 Hours and 7 Minutes.
I have saved $282.81 by not smoking 1253 cigarettes.

Sal GOLD.ffn
Joined: 16 Jan 2003, 08:00

04 Nov 2006, 08:06 #18

None of us knows which cigarette will be the one which will trigger deadly changes in our bodies.

Why do we tend to think that "social smoking" is okay and safe and nothing to worry about?

Never take another puff!

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10 Nov 2006, 00:12 #19

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Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:35

20 Apr 2007, 19:12 #20

I have a friend like that. It drives me nuts. She has a puff off other peoples smokes now and then at gatherings, but other then that, nothing. We could all be sitting around for hours smoking away and she deosn't have any, then once in a blue moon she'll take a puff. But she's never even bought a pack!

I don't think I'm jealous, but more annoyed that I'm an addict. I never thought of myself as an addict. Not till now. My whole body's going through some crazy stuff right now as part of withdrawl.