“A Safer Way to Smoke?”

Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

13 May 2003, 22:54 #11

I saw a questioned posed today about menthol cigarettes, more about whether or not they were harder to quit than regular non-mentholated cigarettes. As far as I am concerned all the menthol is is a flavor additive and does not likely play much of a role in withdrawal issues. What made me want to attach a comment to this string is since the earliest days of my doing programs I heard so many smokers who were afraid of smoking menthol cigarettes because of how dangerous they were.

Here are people who are smoking a product containing over 4,000 chemicals, hundreds of them poisonous, 43 known to be cancer causing agents, many of them with long scary chemical names that the smoker couldn't even pronounce or spell, and smoking them in a form that is known to cause heart disease, cancer, emphysema, and a host of other illnesses. In fact, smoking will end up killing half of the people who do it and also ends up impairing and maybe even crippling many people who it does not kill--and these people were afraid of smoking menthol cigarettes because they were dangerous!

I always saw a tremendous irony in this. These seem to be people who live in fear of certain issues, whether they are rational fears of not. Well now all these people have to fear from cigarettes is relapsing back to them. Any dangers posed by future smoking are totally avoidable as long as these people stick with their commitment to never take another puff!

Joel
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Carolyn green
Joined: 09 Jan 2009, 20:37

28 May 2003, 04:44 #12

I wondered what the little booklets were, thanks.

Carolyn
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Golddabler1
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:59

27 Jun 2003, 01:53 #13

Hi everybody
I brought this one up due to an item on the news today,an american company is bringing a product to the uk and it is being called a safer cigarette,the filter is said to have more protection and has claimed this will stop the onset of emphysema, a group over here called ash [anti smoking group].have questioned this and also pointed out that cancer and many other problems will still remain.There is plenty of proof in joels library and in our postings about the damage cigarette smoking does to your health,but i wish the smoker could get into their head is the fact that a nicotine free life is better,you will be free from the slavery of having to feed that addiction,any lurkers out there if you hav,nt got the health message yet could you please stop looking for safer ways to smoke and starting looking for a better way to live,and that is freedom from constant irritation of nicotine stimulation and nicotine withdrawal,a nicotine free life is better and all of us here are living proof.
Rickdabler 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15hrs happily nicotine free.Image
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

29 Jun 2003, 23:25 #14

I am pretty sure that scientists can come up with a filter that will block all the other harmful chemicals that come in from tobacco and just allow a minute amount of nicotine in with every drag. This product would by definition be "safer." There is one problem though that this filter would pose to its users that normal cigarettes don't. A lot of the users will get hernias from the strain of trying to **** out the real amount of nicotine that his or her body is still demanding.

The only way to stop the body's need for nicotine is to never allow nicotine back into the body, and that is as simple as simply knowing to never use any product designed to deliver nicotine into the body again and as far as for tobacco products, to simply know to never take another chew or dip and as far as for burning tobacco products, to simply know to never take another puff!

Joel
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

03 Aug 2003, 20:16 #15

I thought of this one while putting together a response for the nicotine water product that I think is going to be introduced. I think the title for that product could easily be, "A safer way to get addicted." Again, the message for our readers should not be to look for a safer way to use a potentially deadly and addictive product. Rather it needs to be how to stay free of the iron clad grip that nicotine once held on all of our members. The ONLY way to guarantee that nicotine can never control you this way again is to never deliver nicotine via any nicotine delivery system devised by man and as far as for smoked tobacco forms to simply know to never take another puff! Joel
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Canuckben1
Joined: 19 Dec 2008, 00:10

05 May 2004, 01:14 #16

Joel, I had to pick myself back up off the floor from laughing after reading your message 34, in particular " A lot of the users will get hernias from the strain of trying to **** out the real amount of nicotine,,," . Your message hit home. Thanks again.
Canuckben1
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

10 Sep 2004, 05:01 #17

The message for our readers should not be to look for a safer way to use a potentially deadly or addictive product. Rather it needs to be how to stay free of the iron clad grip that nicotine once held on all of our members. The ONLY way to guarantee that nicotine can never control you this way again is to never deliver nicotine via any nicotine delivery system devised by man and as far as for smoked tobacco forms to simply know to never take another puff!
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

02 Nov 2004, 04:39 #18

A question about Eclipse Cigarettes was just raised. The following article from above talked about the product.

Studies Show Bidis And Smoking Products Are No Safer Than Conventional Cigarettes Studies published over the past several months disprove claims that products such as additive-free cigarettes, bidis, and novel cigarette-like devices are less toxic than conventional cigarettes.

A study published in the December 2002 issue of the journal Nicotine and Tobacco Research examined the effects of bidis--hand-rolled cigarettes from India--and additive-free American Spirit cigarettes. Bidis are popular with adolescents because many perceive them to be less of a risk to health than regular cigarettes, and because they are manufactured in a variety of flavors, such as chocolate or root beer.

For the study, lead investigator Dr. Wallace Pickworth from the NIDA Intramural Research Program asked 10 volunteers to smoke an unfiltered, additive-free American Spirit cigarette, a strawberry-flavored bidi, a non-flavored bidi, and one of the subjects' own brand of conventional cigarette.

After smoking the American Spirit cigarette or either type of bidi, the participants' blood nicotine levels were higher than when they smoked their own brand. Higher amounts of carbon monoxide were exhaled after smoking the strawberry-flavored bidi, but exhaled carbon monoxide levels were lower for the American Spirit cigarette and the unflavored bidi than for the volunteers' own cigarette brands.

Cigarette Products Marketed As Less Toxic Found to be Ineffective

A second study, published in the November 2002 issue of Nicotine and Tobacco Research, evaluated a clinical laboratory model for assessing whether potential reduced-exposure products (PREP) do reduce smokers' exposure to lethal constituents of smoke and whether they adequately suppress withdrawal symptoms. In this study, Philip Morris' Accord and R. J. Reynolds' Eclipse, both marketed as less harmful smoking systems, were used as examples.

The investigators found that, relative to normal cigarettes, Accord was less effective at suppressing withdrawal and produced minimal carbon monoxide boost despite the fact that when using Accord, smokers took bigger and longer puffs than with conventional cigarettes. Eclipse fully suppressed withdrawal and increased carbon monoxide levels by 30 percent. Accord delivered about one-half and Eclipse about three-fourths the nicotine of the subjects' own cigarette brand.

The researchers concluded that neither Accord nor Eclipse is likely to be effective in reducing exposure to the harmful constituents of cigarette smoke.

Dr. Thomas Eissenberg from the Virginia Commonwealth University headed the research team.

A study conducted by the same research team published in the December 2002 issue of the journal Tobacco Control, was similar to the Eclipse/Accord study, but used another product known as Advance. Advance is marketed as a product that will help smokers reduce their intake of some carcinogens and toxic gases.

The investigators found that Advance produced similar withdrawal suppression and heart rate increase, 11 percent less carbon monoxide, and 25 percent more nicotine when compared to the light or ultra-light cigarette brands smoked by 20 volunteers.

WHAT IT MEANS: Despite manufacturers' claims and the perception of some users, low-smoke smoking devices, bidis, and non-additive cigarettes touted to reduce the harmful components of cigarette smoke are not effective, and may not reduce the death and disease associated with tobacco use. On the contrary, some of these devices might promote heavier smoking and may introduce new risks not currently associated with cigarette smoking, including the potential of inhaling harmful elements such as glass fibers used in the manufacture of some low-smoke products.

Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued for journalists and other members of the public. If you wish to quote any part of this story, please credit NIH/National Institute On Drug Abuse as the original source.[/size]
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Joel
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

02 Nov 2004, 05:01 #19

A question about Eclipse Cigarettes was just raised. The article below mentions issues with the particular product.

I am also attaching a link to the string Nicotine Free Quest is NOT Nicotine Free in case the issue is ever raised again.

Studies Show Bidis And Smoking Products Are No Safer Than Conventional Cigarettes
Studies published over the past several months disprove claims that products such as additive-free cigarettes, bidis, and novel cigarette-like devices are less toxic than conventional cigarettes.

A study published in the December 2002 issue of the journal Nicotine and Tobacco Research examined the effects of bidis--hand-rolled cigarettes from India--and additive-free American Spirit cigarettes. Bidis are popular with adolescents because many perceive them to be less of a risk to health than regular cigarettes, and because they are manufactured in a variety of flavors, such as chocolate or root beer.

For the study, lead investigator Dr. Wallace Pickworth from the NIDA Intramural Research Program asked 10 volunteers to smoke an unfiltered, additive-free American Spirit cigarette, a strawberry-flavored bidi, a non-flavored bidi, and one of the subjects' own brand of conventional cigarette.

After smoking the American Spirit cigarette or either type of bidi, the participants' blood nicotine levels were higher than when they smoked their own brand. Higher amounts of carbon monoxide were exhaled after smoking the strawberry-flavored bidi, but exhaled carbon monoxide levels were lower for the American Spirit cigarette and the unflavored bidi than for the volunteers' own cigarette brands.

Cigarette Products Marketed As Less Toxic Found to be Ineffective

A second study, published in the November 2002 issue of Nicotine and Tobacco Research, evaluated a clinical laboratory model for assessing whether potential reduced-exposure products (PREP) do reduce smokers' exposure to lethal constituents of smoke and whether they adequately suppress withdrawal symptoms. In this study, Philip Morris' Accord and R. J. Reynolds' Eclipse, both marketed as less harmful smoking systems, were used as examples.

The investigators found that, relative to normal cigarettes, Accord was less effective at suppressing withdrawal and produced minimal carbon monoxide boost despite the fact that when using Accord, smokers took bigger and longer puffs than with conventional cigarettes. Eclipse fully suppressed withdrawal and increased carbon monoxide levels by 30 percent. Accord delivered about one-half and Eclipse about three-fourths the nicotine of the subjects' own cigarette brand.

The researchers concluded that neither Accord nor Eclipse is likely to be effective in reducing exposure to the harmful constituents of cigarette smoke.

Dr. Thomas Eissenberg from the Virginia Commonwealth University headed the research team.

A study conducted by the same research team published in the December 2002 issue of the journal Tobacco Control, was similar to the Eclipse/Accord study, but used another product known as Advance. Advance is marketed as a product that will help smokers reduce their intake of some carcinogens and toxic gases.

The investigators found that Advance produced similar withdrawal suppression and heart rate increase, 11 percent less carbon monoxide, and 25 percent more nicotine when compared to the light or ultra-light cigarette brands smoked by 20 volunteers.

WHAT IT MEANS: Despite manufacturers' claims and the perception of some users, low-smoke smoking devices, bidis, and non-additive cigarettes touted to reduce the harmful components of cigarette smoke are not effective, and may not reduce the death and disease associated with tobacco use. On the contrary, some of these devices might promote heavier smoking and may introduce new risks not currently associated with cigarette smoking, including the potential of inhaling harmful elements such as glass fibers used in the manufacture of some low-smoke products.

Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued for journalists and other members of the public. If you wish to quote any part of this story, please credit NIH/National Institute On Drug Abuse as the original source.[/size]
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John (Gold)
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 23:57

13 May 2005, 17:43 #20

Australia
Low-tar tobacco labels to be scrapped
By Lisa Pryor
The Sydney Morning Herald
May 13, 2005
Australia's two largest tobacco companies have agreed to remove words such as light and mild from cigarette packets within months after the consumer watchdog ruled that the terms trick smokers into thinking the products are better for their health.
British American Tobacco and Philip Morris have promised to remove the words from packaging and pay $8 million to fund anti-smoking campaigns and programs. The companies' brands account for 80 per cent of the Australian tobacco market.
The $8 million will be used to explain to consumers that low-tar and low-nicotine cigarettes are not necessarily healthier than full-strength cigarettes.
This was because smokers are likely to compensate for the supposed mildness by inhaling more deeply, holding smoke in the lungs longer or smoking more frequently, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission said. It said that tobacco companies had been well aware of this for more than 10 years.
Another tobacco company, Imperial Tobacco Australia, has refused to contribute cash to anti-smoking education but says it will remove the labelling from all its products from March.
The commission chairman, Graeme Samuel, said the company, which has a 20 per cent share of the Australian cigarette market and whose best-known brand is Horizon, had refused to co-operate with the commission.
The refusal was remarkable given the company made a $47.6 million profit in Australia last year and a $2.1 billion profit worldwide, he said.
"Imperial Tobacco's attitude demonstrates a significant lack of sensitivity and responsiveness to community concerns and expectations," he said.
Imperial Tobacco's head of corporate affairs, Charles Hamshaw-Thomas, said the company would not contribute to the education campaign fund because it had done nothing wrong.
"We deny any such wrongdoing," he said.
"Every packet of cigarettes we've sold has a very clear and unambiguous health warning."

Online story source link:
Copyright © 2005. The Sydney Morning Herald.
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