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engine identification??????

Joined: June 6th, 2004, 9:50 pm

June 7th, 2004, 2:16 am #1

i bought a ford engine to put in my 64 thunderbird and the owner was unclear what the ci was. here is the engine #

C8AE-6059-B 4A
can any one help? I think it is a 427ci but i need comfirmation before i buy gaskets....etc. on the front right side it also has -- 48/352 casted in the block.


thanks ahead of time, TONY
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Joined: December 7th, 2000, 3:26 am

June 7th, 2004, 6:23 pm #2

......my records reveil this casting# to be a 302 cid.

If you misread your casting #, there is a chance that your motor is a C8AE- E which is a 390 #. 1968 and up to 1976. Hope this is the case. A 302 never came in a 64 T-Bird. It would be a awful combination.
Regards
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Joined: June 6th, 2004, 9:50 pm

June 7th, 2004, 8:41 pm #3

MAYBE the problem was that i gave the timming cover number? i talked to a buddy of mine and he said it was most likly a 428 or 428cj i'll have to look on the block itself. how did you come up with 302?
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Joined: June 6th, 2004, 9:50 pm

June 7th, 2004, 9:50 pm #4

would they be interchangeable? i looked again at the engine and somthing stuck out to me the front plugs point tward the rear and the rear plugs point tward the front? also i didn't see if it was on the block but in between the 3-4 and the 7-8 plugs i saw these c8ae-h that is 390 right? but is that the heads? or on the engine block and if the heads does 390 heads work with 427/428? sorry for sounding not in the know but if i don't ask i won't know. tony
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June 7th, 2004, 10:09 pm #5

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June 7th, 2004, 10:16 pm #6

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Joined: December 7th, 2000, 3:26 am

June 8th, 2004, 8:22 pm #7

....w. a C8AE-A or H as you corrected. In this case your engine could be a 390 OR a 428. But you gotta know this Tony:
The 428 engines never came in a 64 T. Bird. Only the 1966 model came w. a 428 engine. They were given to only appx. 15-30 % of those 1966 T-Birds. First day of production was 08.02.1965, the last day was 06.10.1966. The total production of that model year was appx. 69 000 vehicles.
BTW the casting # that I gave you were from the 1997 issue of the AERA "Cylinder Head And Block Manual" distr. by the (American Engine Rebuilder's Association)
If you had a 428 in the car, then s.o. must have swapped it. That would be a perfect combination as the 4250 lbs light weight T-Bird is very demanding on torque.
Let us know what you find out.
Good luck
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Joined: June 6th, 2004, 9:50 pm

June 8th, 2004, 8:40 pm #8

i'll let you know. i won't be able to pull the engine for about two weeks. is the center freeze plug deal on the 428 stamped on the inside? (so i have to pull the plugs)
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Joined: December 7th, 2000, 3:26 am

June 8th, 2004, 9:19 pm #9

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Joined: December 16th, 2000, 4:59 am

June 10th, 2004, 3:03 am #10

i'll let you know. i won't be able to pull the engine for about two weeks. is the center freeze plug deal on the 428 stamped on the inside? (so i have to pull the plugs)
You have to pull the plug out. You might have to knock a bunch of crust and corrosion off to feel and see the numbers in there.

I had what I thought was a 428 that I had to tear down. I looked inside the water jacket under the center freeze plug expecting to find "428" or just nothing. Well I had to dig at it with a pick for a while, but then I found it had "390" cast there. I've never heard of "390" being cast there, but there it was. Anyway I had a 390.

Let us know what you find out,

Paul
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