I put the two times teleconverter on the 400 2.8 to get some reach out to 800 mm and she landed on the perch in no time, as soon as I move around she leaves.
The back is a lot darker green than the Rufous juvi's that are around and when there chasing you can really see the difference.

Here is a close-up of the primaries, hopefully tomorrow I can get some pics that show them better.

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Martin
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Vancouver Island, zone 8B
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