Stachytarpheta

Stachytarpheta

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November 12th, 2009, 11:10 pm #1

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
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November 12th, 2009, 11:19 pm #2

Good question, Gary. I toyed with the idea last spring, but didn't buy any plants because I wasn't convinced they would attract hummers.

In older threads I found these mentioned:
-Stachytarpheta Coral Vervain Porterweed
-Stachytarpheta franzii
-red Vervain

What about Stachystarpheta jamaicensis Dwarf Red? I came across someone saying not much hummer action at this variety.

Thanks.

Susan
zone 6a South St. Louis County, MO
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November 13th, 2009, 12:52 am #3

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
I'm not sure of the exact botanical names, but the most popular ones were the pink and purple stachytarphetas I got from Bustani and Almost Eden. The dwarf red did not get a lot of attention, nor did the blue. They are all very pretty though and will find a place on my list next year.
The hummers really go wild for these plants.

Priya
Zone 7, Maryland
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November 13th, 2009, 1:33 am #4

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
I had Stachystarpheta jamaicensis Deep Blue and it was gorgeous! I did see some use on it while it was still in a pot but once I planted it in the ground it was partially hidden from my view by a Black & Blue and an Agastache so I don't know how much use it had after that. I have 18 growing from seed right now. Not sure what colors they will be as they are from mixed seed.

Penny
Niagara Falls, NY
USDA zone 6a/6b
Heat zone 4
Sunset zone 39
Penny
Zone 6a
Western NY state
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November 13th, 2009, 1:31 pm #5

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
As most know, the Stachytarpheta franzii is by far my most favorite plant, as it is for all the hummers. Even with the Ruby-throated hummers that are presently here. They totally ignore all the lovely salvias I have. One of the females is now using the White shrimp plants, but other than that, it is definitely the Stachytarpheta franzii. Now most of my plants are full and about 10ft' in diameter, so offer plentiful blooms to choose from. A striped-headed sparrow has made a nest in one.
We have the S. jamaicensis which offers fewer blooms and grows wild throughout the farm, and it get an occasional visit. The coral flowered species also attracts attention. I found a small lilac flowered one a few days ago and have transplanted it nearer the house but I think this will appeal more to butterflies.
This morning at 6am, when we went outside to have our coffee outside, the hummers were there before us.
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November 13th, 2009, 4:40 pm #6

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
Gary,

We had Stachytarpheta jamaicensis - purple, and Stachytarpheta mutabilis - a really deep salmon-pink color, and both were in bloom and visited regularly throughout the summer with the peak bloomtime being August / September. I ordered these through Bustani in the spring. They performed equally well in containers and in the ground. I look forward to trying frantzii next year based on Patricia's comments, and I'll order them from Almost Eden Plants. http://www.almostedenplants.com/shoppin ... asp?id=578

I found the dwarf varieties available locally and neither the red or purple were very good hummer plants here. The blooms are very small.

Also, if you've never visited Bench Farms in Curtice, Ohio, you owe it your hummingbird garden to pay them a visit when they open in April. Every year, they offer anywhere between 50-60 species of salvias and several other great hummingbird plants / vines at very reasonable prices. I try to make an annual pilgrimage up there by the second week in April and I always find it to be well worth the four hour drive. http://www.benchfarms.com/index_files/Page2425.html


Stachytarpheta jamaicensis


Stachytarpheta mutabilis


Bud
Southwest Ohio
USDA Plant Zone 6a

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November 13th, 2009, 5:31 pm #7

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
Bud those plants are really beautiful! One of these days I am going to try and get to Bench Farms.

Penny
Niagara Falls, NY
USDA zone 6a/6b
Heat zone 4
Sunset zone 39
Penny
Zone 6a
Western NY state
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November 13th, 2009, 5:49 pm #8

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
I will have to consider this plant next year. I have a lot of flowers picked out for my upgraded hummer garden, but the one color notably absent is purple, and I really like purple. Has anyone tried growing purple stachytarpheta jamaicensis from seed. How did it turn out?

Dan
Zone 5a
East-central Iowa
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Dan
East-central Iowa
Zone 5a
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November 13th, 2009, 6:14 pm #9

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
According to my plant book, what you have are S.frantzii, the same as I have. The S. jamaicensis is a 'more weedy' counterpart, and has a much slimmer/darker stalk.
The colors vary with the time of day. In the early morning the S. frantzii is almost magenta.

Small bloom is S. jamaicensis


S. jamaicensis is on the right. There is a max of 3 tiny blooms on this species, while the S. frantzii has about 6 at once.

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November 13th, 2009, 9:18 pm #10

I'm interested in growing Stachytarpheta next year. Which species is most attractive to hummingbirds?

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b
Dan, here many consider Stachystarpheta jamaicensis a weed! Not by me of course, although it is spread round the pastures, and since it 'pops up everywhere, I think this particular species will grow fine from seed. It is around some of the fence lines, but not 'planted...'
The Stachystarpheta frantzii, doesn't seem to pop up' at all. But today, I noticed a coral one has appeared in my compost pile. The other one that was in my garden perished, last year, and the nearest one is a good distance away, probably the equivalent of a street block.

This is a Plain-capped starthroat feeding at one.
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