Salvia x guaranitica 'rhythm and blues'

Joined: March 18th, 2011, 8:50 pm

November 6th, 2016, 1:05 am #16

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
Dan:

We've got it to 4 feet in a long growing season, but in the trials last year 3 feet was generally the max.
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Joined: June 15th, 2012, 7:24 pm

November 6th, 2016, 2:20 pm #17

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
Kermit. that's yet another positive trait. People want smaller, more compact plants. I hope it proves hardy to at least zone 6b in my subtropical climate. Now to make Salvias more adaptable to climate disruption.

This has become the week to move plants into my greenhouse.
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November 6th, 2016, 5:04 pm #18

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
We are still quite warm here in the Upper Midwest, so I am going to take advantage of it and give our tender plants a little more time outside. We still have not yet experienced a hard freeze in Madison, Wisconsin, which is unheard of for almost mid-November!

Madison, WI
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November 8th, 2016, 10:58 am #19

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
Fall has been wow here..Almost scary for when the other shoe drops....
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Joined: June 15th, 2012, 7:24 pm

November 10th, 2016, 4:28 pm #20

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
I've got to get all my tender sages inside for Saturday night, but will not cut them back because almost all of the wither bloomers are developing flower spikes. Gotta go and move my babies inside now. I hope to upload a collage of the spikes in a few days.
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Joined: May 21st, 2013, 12:09 am

November 10th, 2016, 4:47 pm #21

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
When I bring my tenders in to the porch I don't cut them back right away but wait until they develop fresh growth closer to the base. Rarely do any of them continue to set flowers once they are taken in, probably because the porch is too cold and rather shady. The salvias were not in pots but in the ground and their root balls put in the smallest pot that could be gotten away with - rough handling that they somehow survive. It would be nice to get some cuttings before we enter deep winter and the porch cools into the 40s and upper 30s at night. If I can't it will be March before they can be taken and at that point most of the propagation space is already occupied. Rather than making do it would be really nice to have a greenhouse to work in, even one serviceable only in spring would do the trick.
Southern New Jersey
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November 14th, 2016, 5:50 am #22

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
Ward, it is good to use the smallest pots for the root ball. Too much soil will result in sustained soggy conditions that will cause root rot.
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Joined: May 21st, 2013, 12:09 am

November 14th, 2016, 1:19 pm #23

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
True. Usually the plants need regular water when they are first dug and brought in. That seems to change after a few weeks, maybe because they grow new fine roots?
Southern New Jersey
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Joined: July 18th, 2009, 3:58 am

November 14th, 2016, 2:31 pm #24

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
Kermit, do you have any new pictures of 'rhythm and blues'? I'm curious to know just how blue vs purple this is. The few images available now look as close to 'amistad' as 'black & blue' to me.
Dan
East-central Iowa
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November 14th, 2016, 4:44 pm #25

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
Finally, Photobucket seems to be working.

Here are a few images:








The color is not as pure a blue as Black & Blue, but not purple like Amistad. All of the nursery folks that grew it last year called it blue, and that was before it was given a name.

The picture in a small pot is 10 weeks old from the date of the cutting.

BTW, ours outside are still blooming.

Kermit
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Joined: July 18th, 2009, 3:58 am

April 26th, 2017, 5:48 pm #26

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
I'm curious to know if anyone has seen Bodacious Rhythm and Blues at a local garden center. I'm guessing it won't be more widely available until next year.
Dan
East-central Iowa
Zone 5a
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April 26th, 2017, 10:34 pm #27

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
I don't show it listed on any plant lists of my local places. I looked again at Cottage Gardens list, since they are carrying a handful of Kermits plants, but don't show it on their list this year either. I am keeping my eye out.

Joni
Elwood, IL
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Joined: July 18th, 2009, 3:58 am

May 5th, 2017, 8:21 pm #28

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
I've been to all the local garden centers and I have not seen 'rhythm and blues'. As usual, 'black and blue' is widespread.
Dan
East-central Iowa
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May 5th, 2017, 8:21 pm #29

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
I've been to all the local garden centers and I have not seen 'rhythm and blues'. As usual, 'black and blue' is widespread.
Dan
East-central Iowa
Zone 5a
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June 3rd, 2017, 2:37 am #30

Check out what just popped up in Monrovia's salvia catalog.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/p ... s-salivia/
http://planthaven.com/plant/salvia-boda ... and-blues/

It is a new guaranitica hybrid being marketed as an improved 'black & blue'. It says the source is Kermit Carter.

Plant Description:

Gorgeous new hybrid blooms earlier than popular 'Black and Blue' sage, freely reflowering throughout the season. Tall spikes display saturated cobalt-blue flowers, each held by an elegant black whorl. Dark green foliage maintains rich color, cloaking a tighter growth habit than others. Striking color contrast for bright-flowering perennials. Herbaceous perennial.

History:

This new x guaranitica hybrid was developed by Salvia breeding specialist Kermit Carter, and was selected for improved attributes over similar varieties. In comparison to 'Black and Blue', this salvia exhibits: earlier blooming habit, tighter clumping form, and dark green foliage that does not tend to fade or become yellow.

I'd like to hear more about how it compares to both 'black & blue' and 'black & bloom'. Is it less brittle than 'black & bloom'? Are the blooms the same color as 'black & blue'? The few available photos appear a bit more purple, but I've seen 'black & blue' photos look purple as well.
Those of you who are growing 'rhythm & blues', any first impressions?
Dan
East-central Iowa
Zone 5a
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