Aphids !

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April 23rd, 2017, 4:43 am #11

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
My coral honeysuckle is now developing flower buds. Right on cue, today I found the first little cluster of aphids infesting one bud. That means in a couple weeks they'll be widespread.
Dan
East-central Iowa
Zone 5a
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April 23rd, 2017, 5:16 am #12

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
Oh, you poor people!! There has to be one advantage to living in the frozen tundra, the land where hummingbird plants don't like to grow----we've never seen a single aphid on our 8 honeysuckle vines! They are nowhere close to even blooming here. If we ever did get aphids, I might be tempted to take them out, despite how great of a hummingbird plant this is.

I am so sorry for all of you! Sadly, the only safe solution I found online was the use of a horticultural oil. Bummer!!

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Joined: May 18th, 2013, 9:33 pm

April 23rd, 2017, 2:11 pm #13

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
I may have gotten to my goldflame early enough or maybe Im just lucky, but it appears I have a lot of flowers nearly in bloom without being attacked by aphids. Time will tell as I keep a close watch on it. BTW last year I decided to keep it as bush and have pruned it that way. I allows me to easier keep a watch on aphids on the vine.
Steve W.
Martinsville IN.
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April 24th, 2017, 1:24 pm #14

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
I've noticed that the aphid problem on my Coral Honeysuckle (Lonicera semprevirens) seems to regulate itself, via natural controls, over time. While you want that nice perfect honeysuckle for the hummers first-thing in spring, the "option of doing nothing" seemed to work for me... I guess the aphids attracted predators, who put things back in control. I've had aphid problems in the past... this year, little or none... all by doing nothing.
Wilmington, Delaware (USDA Zone 7a)
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April 24th, 2017, 1:51 pm #15

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
I am with you on the "do nothing" approach. If nothing else it is the safest approach from an environmental standpoint. So do you really think it is predation or is it just that these particular aphids don't have many breeding cycles per year and it is all done by late June?
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April 24th, 2017, 2:10 pm #16

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
From my observation, there is definitely an annual life cycle thing with aphids, where they explode in early spring and are much more under control later. But this year and last, I am not seeing the aphid problem so much even in early spring any more so that leads me to suspect that natural controls are consuming the over-wintering aphid (eggs?), the season before.

Coral Honeysuckle - a.k.a. Red Trumpet Honeysuckle (Lonicera sempervirens) is a native plant so all the natural controls for it's pests should be present in the area... and if we fight the aphids too much with even safe insecticides, we may also be impacting the native predatory insects that control them.
Last edited by RonDEZone7a on April 24th, 2017, 8:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wilmington, Delaware (USDA Zone 7a)
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April 24th, 2017, 2:26 pm #17

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
That is another reason to stay hands off. It brings up a pet peeve of mine. The term "beneficial insect". It implies that only certain insects are beneficial and that others are what? It all depends who you ask I guess. Ask almost any species of breeding bird trying to feed a nest full of chicks what they think.
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April 24th, 2017, 2:27 pm #18

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
I always let nature take its course on mine as well. 'Dropmore Scarlet' was cut way back & already has 3 new shoots coming out of the large stump. Hated to do it this soon but had to before it swallowed the corner of the house. 'Cedar Lane' is full of buds & probably will find many open today as we are to get in low 70's. Never noticed any on that vine but it is grown against the house just next to my deck off the kitchen & the last 2 years I've had many ants finding their way in to the cat food which is a few feet away from the sliding glass doors. Had to put the food bowl in another larger bowl of water creating a moat & it seems to be working. Never attributed the ants getting in to climbing the honeysuckle but I'll bet it is assisting. Haven't checked 'John Clayton', 'Blanche Sandman' or my 2 year old Dropmore cutting in ground yet but will as I make my way through the beds.

Joni
Elwood, IL
Zone 5
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April 26th, 2017, 11:33 pm #19

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
'Dropmore Scarlet' cutting has a lot on a few buds & none on others. My 'Cedar Lane' has none whatsoever.

BUT SOMETHING I FOUND INTERESTING:

I just got a catalog (late for some reason) from Garden Trends which was formerly Harris Seeds. While skimming, I ended up on a page showing plastic mulches. I've heard of black & the newer red for veges, especially tomatoes, but they are showing a "metallic" silver plastic mulch & said "In field tests, metallic mulch was shown to reduce aphids on cucurbits, viral infection from aphids was decreased increasing yields. A tomato test showed reduction of silverleaf whitefly populations helping to reduce infectious tomato mottle virus. The silver color of this mulch seems to confuse certain insects, perhaps because light reflection disorients them. Recommended to be used on a trial basis."

That said, wonder if it would help on honeysuckle? It wouldn't be attractive but if most are having problems primarily in spring, it might help to have it down in the early stages. I wonder?

They also show blue mulch (which I never saw before) & says it heats soil more than black & in trials, increased yields of Summer Squash, Cucurbits & Melons by 20%. With this one, I wonder if I should try it over a patch of Canada Thistle.???

Joni
Elwood, IL
Zone 5
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April 30th, 2017, 1:01 am #20

You guessed it. My goldflame has a lot beautiful new foliage but I notice one set of leaves that was turned in and after opening the leaves up sure enough aphids were there. I wasted no time in getting out my spray bottle and blasted away. I will now keep a very close watch on that honeysuckle as the leaves are all close together. The coral honeysuckle leaves are far apart at this time.
Bumping this up since I don't think those with aphids saw my added info??

Joni
Elwood, IL
Zone 5
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