a new forum?

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a new forum?

diana
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July 26th, 2004, 1:35 pm #1

Dear Forum Developer (Robert),
This forum software, IMHO, might have reached the limits of its usefulness. Have you considered using some of the other free forums out there? There's the "Toast" forum software, my particular favorite, and a free version is available and there's the old standard "phpbb" -free version also available. Have you looked into using them lately?
My reasons for thinking this forum software could be replaced are fairly basic:
1. no after-posting editing capabilities (I just spotted an error in my post on e-Learning after I posted and found I couldn't go back and edit)
2. No html, bold, italics or other things to spice up the text
3. shifty dates on the posts that do appear and it's very hard to tell when something was posted
4. I'm a woman so I'd have to say the colours are really not "with it" and should be more soft, more gemtlich, if you get my meaning.
5. and really, a warning about that Leo thing would nice - it scared me to realise I'm almost lost an entire post when the screens abruptly changed (I didn't actually but I could do without the scare)
Please don't view any of the above as a criticism - because none of it is. I just think men aren't as aware of the importance of atmosphere and modern conveniences as women...
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declineandfall
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July 26th, 2004, 6:42 pm #2

Thanks for all these suggestions. I thought nobody cared.
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This forum software, IMHO, might have reached the limits of its usefulness. Have you considered using some of the other free forums out there? There's the "Toast" forum software, my particular favorite, and a free version is available and there's the old standard "phpbb" -free version also available. Have you looked into using them lately?
The problem with changing forum providers would be rebuilding the past posts: they have grown to quite a useful archive. I'm also not sure ezeboard is as bad as you think: see the comments below. And it's reliable: we've had hardly any downtime in over two years.
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1. no after-posting editing capabilities (I just spotted an error in my post on e-Learning after I posted and found I couldn't go back and edit)
You certainly can edit - but only if you've registered. I explain that in the heading. Registering is recommended, but as we don't get much spam I decided against making it compulsory.
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2. No html, bold, italics or other things to spice up the text
Oh yes there is - but again I think you have to register to use them.
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3. shifty dates on the posts that do appear and it's very hard to tell when something was posted
Yeah, I've noticed that. Either it's an ezboard issue, or it's, as I suspect, one of the administrators clicking the "edit" button a bit too freely
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4. I'm a woman so I'd have to say the colours are really not "with it" and should be more soft, more gemtlich, if you get my meaning.
The colours are freely configurable. The existing ones derive from an earlier, now fortunately defunct, colour scheme for the www.t-english.com website. Gemtlichkeit is something I personally rarely aspire to, but I am in no way attached to these colours, and will follow any concrete suggestions you might have. Ditto femininity. Can you define the colours as closely as possible (ideally, hexadecimal RGB values), or point me to a website with a nice scheme?
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5. and really, a warning about that Leo thing would nice - it scared me to realise I'm almost lost an entire post when the screens abruptly changed (I didn't actually but I could do without the scare)
Yeah. That winds a lot of people up. I thought it was really cool when I worked out how to do it (you have to use recondite, non-standards-compliant JavaScrypt). In fact I think it's so clever I don't want to take it off. Is it only a problem when you're posting? If so, I'll try this: I think only the posting screen has a form on it, so I'll see if I can get the scrypt to run only if there's no form on the page - "if(document.forms.length==0){..do the lookup...}" ought to do the trick. I'll try that out and if it doesn't work I'll - sorrowfully- take down the whole scrypt. Probably.
(BTW, I know how to spell "scrypt" properly, but if you do so the board replaces it with swear-word asterisks.)
Please help us to freshen the atmosphere, and indeed the conveniences - though, as I indicated above, I think some of our plumbing is not as old-fashioned as you supposed. And thank you again for taking the time to comment.
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July 26th, 2004, 8:01 pm #3

I do care about what people are doing with technology, computers, software.
I've been amazed at what you've accomplished here so far (the use of the recondite N-S-C JS is a marvel). I wouldn't take the scrypt down for LEO - you've worked so hard to get it just right! I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a warning:
Achtung! Don't be alarmed, your post is still here but we thought LEO might might be of some use....
just joking really, Robert. If it can't be changed then I think you should leave it. BTW, I got LEO when I right-clicked to move a sentence by cutting and pasting and before I'd actually sent the post, yes.
Okay, I guess I'll have to register to see all the nifty little things I can do with my posts...
As to colour scheme, I don't feel that it's my place to say but if it were put to a vote I'm partial to the spectrum of rusts and browns. Something like the rustier red range with #9B6109 and #F5790A with a bit of beige and white for interest.
I hope I'm not perceived as a buttinski here. I only thought that as I'd got so much of value from this BB that I should wander over and put my fingers to the keyboard in giving back a bit and I actually didn't get very far because my first stop was "Nerd Stuff" to see what was what in here.
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July 26th, 2004, 9:02 pm #4

You are most welcome here. If you plan to make regular visits, would you consider becoming an administrator? Or moderator - I forget which is which.
In the past, I've done the technical stuff and John has done most of the content, partly because he knows all the practical and bureaucratic details about teaching in Germany, and partly ******* *** **** ** *******. But he now has rather less time to spend on this.
Administering, or -trating, mostly means that when somebody posts a question, we should try to get them at least one answer from an administrator within a reasonably short time, if nobody else responds. Additionally, you could try to build up the "nerd stuff" section - renaming it if necessary. This would be particularly interesting if you think you could drive some traffic to the section from people you know.
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July 27th, 2004, 3:16 pm #5

Hello Robert,
Thank you very kindly for your welcome to post here and for your offer to do some admin-ing. I don't feel competent to administrate anything, largely because I don't have one-millionth the knowledge John has. Unfortunately for John's time constraints, he's rather indispensible I think.
However, if you and John would like an extra hand at making sure initital posts get some sort of answer, I can take a stab at helping out in that capacity. I'm a fair researcher so if I don't have an answer for something I can usually find one quickly enough.
BTW, feel free to email me so that we don't have to clutter the board with personal/business missives that don't have much interest for anyone else. You can reach me at erreichen2004_at_yahoo_dot_com
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July 27th, 2004, 6:20 pm #6

I've started a discussion on the new colours in the main forum: see "femininity in practice".
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July 28th, 2004, 12:14 am #7

see my reply in feminity in practice
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