Have we applied for promotion to the conference next season?

Have we applied for promotion to the conference next season?

Ste Biggy
Ste Biggy

August 2nd, 2004, 7:20 pm #1

Anyone know?
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Simon
Simon

August 2nd, 2004, 9:24 pm #2

We are looking at bottom 5, why waste the money on applying.
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Taxpayer
Taxpayer

August 3rd, 2004, 1:17 pm #3

What a joke.
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Ste Biggy
Ste Biggy

August 3rd, 2004, 6:04 pm #4

I just cant get my head around the negativity of most of our fans, I predict a good season coming up because we have a decent team and some of the trialists that have been training with us, if signed on, are very good players.

Taxpayer has a point, why build a new ground in Runcorn when the actual fans of Runcorn arent interested in them anyway and are happy when they lose?
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Tufty
Tufty

August 3rd, 2004, 11:27 pm #5

There are a lot of fans in Runcorn who are interested, but not while the club is in Widnes.
The longer the club stays in Widnes, the less interested these fans will become.

As for the £750 for applying for the conference, based on the current squad it is not worth Runcorn FC HALTON paying the money. Currently with gates of 200 (90 paying Adult home fans), it would be suicide to go up anyway.
The clubs better off following Telford, going bust and dropping 2 leagues.
At the end of the day, by doing this its not going to loose any support and can only hope to gain more, while reducing costs and starting off in a new Stadium/Ground in Runcorn, either purpose built or at a modernised Pavillions.
People like Ste may say this is a negative approach, but its the only way forward. People need to think, do they want 2 years of debt ridden Unibond, sorry Conf North football leading to the club going completely under, or do they want a long term future, be it at a short term lower level?
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taxpayer
taxpayer

August 4th, 2004, 12:28 pm #6

...Pull out the stadium now and seek money off the council for doing so. They would probably pay for some capital in the early six figures and at least £60K in revenue to be shut of the club.

The council wouldn't be upset to see the backs of Runcorn for next season and other potential users
and the club's finances would improve during that two year period. i.e. Everton & Liverpool reserves.

The added bonus would be more pressure could then be put on Widnes Vikings to pay more if they get relegated, as the overall deficit for the stadium must surely be higher ?

The biggest problem coming up for the council must be the arts centre. (The Brindley) How much is that going to cost in subsidy every year ?
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A.
A.

August 4th, 2004, 1:15 pm #7

There are a lot of fans in Runcorn who are interested, but not while the club is in Widnes.
The longer the club stays in Widnes, the less interested these fans will become.

As for the £750 for applying for the conference, based on the current squad it is not worth Runcorn FC HALTON paying the money. Currently with gates of 200 (90 paying Adult home fans), it would be suicide to go up anyway.
The clubs better off following Telford, going bust and dropping 2 leagues.
At the end of the day, by doing this its not going to loose any support and can only hope to gain more, while reducing costs and starting off in a new Stadium/Ground in Runcorn, either purpose built or at a modernised Pavillions.
People like Ste may say this is a negative approach, but its the only way forward. People need to think, do they want 2 years of debt ridden Unibond, sorry Conf North football leading to the club going completely under, or do they want a long term future, be it at a short term lower level?
Tufty, you say that there are a lot of fans in Runcorn who are interested. Where were they all when we played at Canal Street then? Where were they at the very last game?Most people who attended Canal Street during our last few years there have followed the club over to Widnes.You only have to look around to see that.

It seems to be the standard and level of football that is keeping most people away, not the location of the ground. Would they all flock to a ground in Runcorn and give them their support if we played 3 or 4 leagues lower? Answer, for the first few games yes as it would be a novelty and the start of a new era. After that, the interest would die and people would find something else to moan about, like the standard of opposition or poor football.

The support in Widnes needs to improve before we think about playing back in Runcorn for the simple fact that if not, there might not be a club left for us to move.

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A.
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RMC
RMC

August 4th, 2004, 3:06 pm #8

Most people who attended canal street during the last few years there have followed the club over to widnes. Bullshit
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Tony
Tony

August 4th, 2004, 3:28 pm #9

If most people have followed the club over the bridge, whay are there 200 regular fans missing?
Where are the missing 500 who watched the club 8 years ago?

As for the idiot going on about Runcorn leaving the stadium, would mean more gain from Everton and Liverpool, these two clubs now have bases, they wont play here.
The only other possibility is 18 months off Wrexham if they re-develop.

Even if the club got into the real Conference, people would not flock.
3rd Division football would see an average gate of 2,000 dependent on away fans.

The geographical location of Runcorn and the glamour of the premiership, will always mean that football in Runcorn will never ever see decent gates.
Look at Tranmere and Wigan for example, they struggle to attract crowds.

I agree with Tufty, the club should think about re-forming. Dropping a few levels and becoming anew family club. Get people involved through youth teams, under 8`s to under 18`s, a reserve side and a decent social club and scene.
More people are invloved in Gen Chems and Mond Rangers in some form than are invlved in Runcorn FC. Local youth players look to Mond and Chems as a good level to play at, none ever mention Runcorn.
We should be looking at what AFC Wimbledon, Aldershot, Maidstone, Lincoln City and now Telford have done.

At the end of the day, we have nothing to loose. The Runcorn FC we loved died when we left Canal Street.
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Ste Biggy
Ste Biggy

August 4th, 2004, 6:49 pm #10

500 missing fans? I think 8 seasons ago was our last year in the conference and, big games apart, we didnt get anywhere near 700 a game, if we did we probably wouldnt have had to move.

We all know in our hearts that we have never been a well supported team. In 86 when we first got to Wembley we beat Kettering away on the Saturday and the team were hailed as heros by everyone in Runcorn, and the following tuesday we played Wycombe at home and there was I think 386 there.

Our last home game in the conference was Telford and we still could have stayed up, 437 in attendance.

It is true that our attendances have not really altered between our relegation from the conference and the present day.
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