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Kodegadulo
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Feb 6 2018, 11:35 AM #73

From the Re: 'phishing' Members thread:
Kodegadulo @ Feb 6 2018, 11:19 AM wrote:I know there's PM, but PM is becoming a pain because the PM mailbox only allows a limited number of messages, so in order to keep a history, I'm finding I have to laboriously copy old PMs to a local file and then delete them here to make room. (I like to keep them in a spreadsheet so I can sort them, but it's tedious to copy the text and the fields over.)
Does anyone know if the equivalent of PM's on the new Tapatalk site will be a little more generous of space, and perhaps a bit more "modern"?
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Silvano2
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Feb 11 2018, 12:42 AM #74

Strangely, I couldn't access the forum, the password retrieval system didn't work, so I had to
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Kodegadulo
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Feb 11 2018, 01:07 PM #75

Silvano2 @ Feb 11 2018, 12:42 AM wrote: Strangely, I couldn't access the forum, the password retrieval system didn't work, so I had to
... join under a new name? II assume you're the same silvano who's been here for years? Maybe PM an admin like Shaun to set a temporary password on your old account?
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Kodegadulo
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Mar 1 2018, 03:48 AM #76

Well Tapatalk has finally arrived, and it truly sucks.  Most of my posts have been completely trashed.  My use of alternate characters has been bollixed up, replaced with apparently the html entity codes -- or arbitrary replacements!  m1n1f1g's MathJax user script, which gave us beautiful LaTeX math formula typesetting, no longer works.  Some HTML tables appear, after a fashion (with horrendous inexplicable huge tracts of whitespace), but if you try to edit them, they go stupid.  Even my signature has been trashed, yet I cannot repair it. Strangely, it still retains the link to my index post, but if I try to edit it to fix the trashed characters, the signature editor tells me that URL's are not allowed!   Good luck trying to navigate to the latest post in any given subforum.  Quotes no longer generate date/time stamps for what you are quoting.

Basically, DozensOnline has gone to hell.
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Double sharp
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Mar 1 2018, 04:45 AM #77

I agree with you, and it is very annoying that most of these very problems were already pointed out by us concerning the preview and do not appear to have been fixed.
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wendy.krieger
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Mar 1 2018, 10:30 AM #78

Some things to look for.

1.  You should visit the control panel. (your icon top right).  Go through the pages to remove some default settings.

a.  You are by default, subscribed to every page you post on.  You can uncheck this in the control panel.

2.  On first entry, you will be asked to link to a taptalk account, or facebook or google+, on every time you log into.  I do not know a cure for this, so I selected 'facebook', and then logged in.  The nag message disappeared.

3,  Old user-names and passwords work, but if you use the cache, this will not automatically log you in.

At the moment, the 'deleted users' are missing.  I imagine they will re-appear in due cause.
Twelfty is 120 dec, as 12 decades. V is teen, the '10' digit, E is elef, the '11' digit. A place is occupied by two staves (digits).
Digits group into 2's and 4's, and . , are comma points, : is the radix.
Numbers writen with a single point, in twelfty, like 5.3, means 5 dozen and 3. It is common to push 63 into 5.3 and viki verka.
Exponents (in dec): E = 10^x, Dx=12^x, H=120^x, regardless of base the numbers are in.
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Kodegadulo
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Mar 1 2018, 10:40 AM #79

Icarus's Tour des Bases posts have been smashed beyond recognition. So far I haven't been able to find any of his beautiful digit maps. All the links he so carefully put in are now broken.

Years and years of work, lost ... All in the name of "progress".

And now we have even more reason to say this forum has gone to hell...
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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wendy.krieger
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Mar 1 2018, 10:48 AM #80

Also broken are the pictures/tables in Icarus's Number Theory post.  There is a lot of white space inserted.
Twelfty is 120 dec, as 12 decades. V is teen, the '10' digit, E is elef, the '11' digit. A place is occupied by two staves (digits).
Digits group into 2's and 4's, and . , are comma points, : is the radix.
Numbers writen with a single point, in twelfty, like 5.3, means 5 dozen and 3. It is common to push 63 into 5.3 and viki verka.
Exponents (in dec): E = 10^x, Dx=12^x, H=120^x, regardless of base the numbers are in.
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Kodegadulo
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Mar 1 2018, 11:03 AM #81

Old links to specific posts don't work. They only seem to get you to the OP of the respective thread.
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Shaun
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Mar 1 2018, 02:14 PM #82

I've reported these complaints to the Tapatalk rep.
Awaiting response.
They said everything would work. (!)
I use the following conventions for dozenal numbers in my posts.

* prefixes a dozenal number, e.g. *50 = 60.
The apostrophe (') is used as a dozenal point, e.g. 0'6 = 0.5.
T and E stand for ten and eleven respectively.
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Kodegadulo
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Mar 1 2018, 02:30 PM #83

They are rank amateurs that have absolutely no clue what they are doing or what our actual requirements are. But hey, we're getting what we've paid for, haven't we?

A dozen years. I suppose it was a good run...
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Shaun
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Mar 1 2018, 02:46 PM #84

Checked dohtml is working.
And we haven't ever paid anything for the forum or its migration. Just the datadrop that icarus is looking after.
Awaiting their response and will continue testing in meantime. Keep me posted of any other main faults.
Testing in chat forum if you want to look.
I use the following conventions for dozenal numbers in my posts.

* prefixes a dozenal number, e.g. *50 = 60.
The apostrophe (') is used as a dozenal point, e.g. 0'6 = 0.5.
T and E stand for ten and eleven respectively.
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Mar 1 2018, 02:59 PM #85

I do have the database (it's SQL). I also have the coded write-ups for nearly all of the Tour des Bases and other matters I'd written here especially before 2016. The Tour itself will rise again in the coming months. People that are banned should respect the decision of the community instead of taking advantage of the confusion of the transfer. It will take some time to get used to this, as well as the ruination of much of what has been accomplished here. I am pretty disappointed but unfortunately have very little time in the coming 3 weeks to do anything meaningful about it.
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Kodegadulo
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Mar 1 2018, 03:27 PM #86

Here's a test:



So it does work, sort of, but you can't tell from preview. You actually have to submit the post to see the result. Which means possibly editing multiple times if you make a mistake.  But what's with the extra space above the table? And there is absolutely no reason the text in the bottom row should be so misaligned. To keep the text in the table cells properly aligned, you have to terminate them with </td> close tags, a la XHTML, which is tedious, whereas HTML is more tolerant, and doesn't interpret a carriage return before an ending </table> tag as literally part of the text of the final cell.
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As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Shaun
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Mar 1 2018, 08:49 PM #87

I have emailed the Tapatalk contact and pointed out the fact that despite their promises the broken pages look exactly as the draft ones we originally complained about. Other items reported to them seem to have received no attention; and as for the links - a shambles.
I wil report back as soon as I have a reply.
I use the following conventions for dozenal numbers in my posts.

* prefixes a dozenal number, e.g. *50 = 60.
The apostrophe (') is used as a dozenal point, e.g. 0'6 = 0.5.
T and E stand for ten and eleven respectively.
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Shaun
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Mar 2 2018, 06:14 AM #88

Am advised that the problems have been passed to the migration team for their immediate attention.
I also pointed out that we had no chance to see the final version before it appeared out of the blue.

Thank you, Kode, for sorting out the table question; all my tables, by the way, use closing tags - I'm still back in the days of HTML 5.
I use the following conventions for dozenal numbers in my posts.

* prefixes a dozenal number, e.g. *50 = 60.
The apostrophe (') is used as a dozenal point, e.g. 0'6 = 0.5.
T and E stand for ten and eleven respectively.
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Double sharp
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Mar 3 2018, 06:56 AM #89

Posts by unregistered users are still not showing up (see here for an example). And I'm also not sure how my post count suddenly skyrocketed past the great gross when it certainly wasn't that before the Tapatalk conversion.
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SenaryThe12th
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Mar 3 2018, 05:33 PM #90

Imagine our society has just converted to dozenal.  Most of the population would feel pretty much like everything was broken, kind of like how we feel about the brokenness resulting from this forum migration :-)   I suggest we take a stoic attitude towards this, and use it as an empathy-building exercise.  We, who are advocates of radical change, lets show how well we ourselves cope and adapt to change. 

"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man."
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Mar 3 2018, 09:21 PM #91

THERE'S THE SPIRIT!!!! Hello dear Senary.
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Kodegadulo
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Mar 3 2018, 10:06 PM #92

I for one am not an "advocate for radical change", whether of the Stoic school or the Cynic school of ancient philosophy. We should rather advocate broadening the mental repertoire available to people. We're not going to be storming the barricades to bring down the decimal flag and raise the dozenal flag or the senary flag or any other in its place, by force of farm implements or "legal instruments" or what not. What a silly fantasy. Our business should be to educate ourselves and others about the various possibilities, providing tools and notions and nomenclatures, hopefully making it a fun and enriching experience for anyone attracted to our sideshow. And in that regard, I say we've already "won".

It's just math, people. It's not a zero-sum game.
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Shaun
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Mar 8 2018, 09:06 AM #93

Double sharp wrote: Posts by unregistered users are still not showing up (see here for an example). And I'm also not sure how my post count suddenly skyrocketed past the great gross when it certainly wasn't that before the Tapatalk conversion.
Posts by unregistered members are now showing; fixed today. Post counts have always been a bit flaky.
I use the following conventions for dozenal numbers in my posts.

* prefixes a dozenal number, e.g. *50 = 60.
The apostrophe (') is used as a dozenal point, e.g. 0'6 = 0.5.
T and E stand for ten and eleven respectively.
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Mar 10 2018, 07:06 AM #94

Shaun wrote:

Posts by unregistered members are now showing; fixed today. Post counts have always been a bit flaky.
Post counts are not importnt.
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Kodegadulo
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Mar 10 2018, 12:17 PM #95

Einmaleins wrote:
Shaun wrote:

Post counts have always been a bit flaky.
Post counts are not importnt.
True. But some folks here enjoy celebrating when they reach certain round milestones -- especially dozenally-round ones. :smiley:
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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