## Dozenalising The Metric System

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jim
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Harold

Quote 'But none go back to the builders of Stonehenge and any relationship between imperial and Stonehenge is random and any values determined results entirely from comparisons only'

From Encyclopaedia Britannica 1962 edition p.481I ' 13.2........it was the commonest building foot in medieval England (13.2), and its age is seen by its use as the measure for Silbury hill (13.0)'

How old is Silbury hill?

And for anybody interested in quirkie coincidences this is the mountain from which the material to construct silbury hill was hauled and it's also the mountain on which the Wiltshire white horse was created.
https://flic.kr/p/cqLMJY

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'Fancy that. The decimal part is 0.3211 days, not 0.33333r. You both can't be right. Which one is it? You must think nobody bothers to verify your errors. Now, wouldn't it be something if that fourth digit was a zero instead of a 1 and we would have a descending series of numbers from 3 to 0. '

You are not getting away with that one Harold.

the Saros is 18 years 11 days and 8 hours this is 6585.3333 days. this is on the NASA website.

8 hours 8/24 is 0.333r

6585.333 + 14.666r = 6600 100 chains.

It does seem that they used 0.111111r as a unit this is 1/9.

14.6666r / 1/9 = 132 Jim's unit.

To me the fact that 14.666r is a unit no one has noticed within the imperial system needs to be investigated because of this link with 4.666r x 22/7 = 14.6666r. why is this system inside the imperial?

9.33333r x 22/7 = 29.333 difference 20

2095.33333r x 22/7 = 6585.3333r difference is 4490

Add 14.666r = 6600. this is an eclipse prediction system without any doubt. Did they know this number? Did they use the imperial system.

The Babylonians used 2.5 x 1/9 as a unit being 2.5/9 or 100/360.

And to dozenalise the metric system the unit required is 2.5 x 100/99 this is 2.5252525r and this is 1000/396.

it leaves many unanswered questions about the design of the imperial system.

Also the Babylonians used the metre even though the French invented it. Perhaps they asked Queen Elizabeth the first's permission.

You can't keep telling us when these units were invented because no one has any idea.

Read 'The Lost Science of Measuring the Earth' by Heath and Michell. it is based on the foot being a universal unit of very ancient measure.

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Harold
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jim @ Nov 23 2017, 08:58 PM wrote: Harold

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Quote 'But none go back to the builders of Stonehenge and any relationship between imperial and Stonehenge is random and any values determined results entirely from comparisons only'

From Encyclopaedia Britannica 1962 edition p.481I ' 13.2........it was the commonest building foot in medieval England (13.2), and its age is seen by its use as the measure for Silbury hill (13.0)'

How old is Silbury hill?

And for anybody interested in quirkie coincidences this is the mountain from which the material to construct silbury hill was hauled and it's also the mountain on which the Wiltshire white horse was created.&nbsp;
https://flic.kr/p/cqLMJY
13.2 is the number of British inches in a Sachsen foot. This means the foot the Sachsens brought with them to England was either more popular than the English foot or took a long time to die out that 13.2 became a popular number. The British inch for some reason replaced the Sachsen inch sooner. There were 12 Sachsen inches in a Sachsen foot. Maybe because the English inch was equated to the Barley corn which was a common seed.

The building of Silbury hill was done by different people as subsequent generations added to the hill. Thus it can be said no plan or design as used.
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visi ... l/history/

The pre-Norman unit of length was the wand, a decimal based unit close to the metre.

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Harold
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davidk @ Nov 23 2017, 11:39 PM wrote: 'Fancy that. The decimal part is 0.3211 days, not 0.33333r. You both can't be right. Which one is it? You must think nobody bothers to verify your errors. Now, wouldn't it be something if that fourth digit was a zero instead of a 1 and we would have a descending series of numbers from 3 to 0. '

Gibberish

You are not getting away with that one Harold.
the Saros is 18 years 11 days and 8 hours this is 6585.3333 days. this is on the NASA website.

You must be referring to a different NASA.
https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEsaros/SEsaros.html

No where in their document does the number 6585.333333 appear.
The Saros arises from a natural harmony between three of the Moon's orbital periods (circa 2000 CE):

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Synodic Month (New Moon to New Moon)&nbsp; &nbsp; = 29.530589 days&nbsp; = 29d 12h 44m 03s
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Anomalistic Month (perigee to perigee)&nbsp; = 27.554550 days&nbsp; = 27d 13h 18m 33s
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Draconic Month (node to node)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 27.212221 days&nbsp; = 27d 05h 05m 36s

One Saros is equal to 223 synodic months. However, 239 anomalistic months and 242 draconic months are also equal to this same period (to within a couple hours)!

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 223 Synodic Months&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 6585.3223 days&nbsp; = 6585d 07h 43m
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 239 Anomalistic Months&nbsp; &nbsp; = 6585.5375 days&nbsp; = 6585d 12h 54m
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 242 Draconic Months&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 6585.3575 days&nbsp; = 6585d 08h 35m
I see 6585.3223, but no 0.3333.
it leaves many unanswered questions about the design of the imperial system.
It was never designed, it was hob-nobbled together haphazardly over time.
Also the Babylonians used the metre even though the French invented it. Perhaps they asked Queen Elizabeth the first's permission.
A length that is close to the modern metre most likely existed in various cultures throughout history. The British wand was close to the metre and it can be argued that the English yard is close enough to the metre to make a connection.
You can't keep telling us when these units were invented because no one has any idea.
No one knows the exact day, but we know an approximate time or era. What we o know is when they didn't exist and imperial units did not exist in Stonehenge times.
Read 'The Lost Science of Measuring the Earth' by Heath and Michell. it is based on the foot being a universal unit of very ancient measure.
I'm sure it was in some cultures but not all and not in the time of the building of Stonehenge.

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**disclaimer: I hate Metric **

I'm sure I've said this before, but a dozenalised metric could be formed by simply taking the SI as it is and using dozenal prefixes. Instead of "centimetres", we have "grossimetres", or whatever (=6.9444mm / 0.27340").

The only "issue" I see with this is that the kilogram was originally, and is thus conceptually, the mass of a cubic decimetre of water. Sure, you could just use the kilogram with dozenal prefixes and to hell with this historical point. But I rather like that the litre (roughly) contains a mass of one kilogram of water under average conditions, and I know many people who are pro-Metric who proudly proclaim that a litre of water is a kilogram. FWIW, *1/1000 cubic metre contains a mass of water of very roughly 578.7g / 20.4oz.