Kodegadulo
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Kodegadulo
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Joined: 11:27 PM - Sep 10, 2011

7:03 PM - Dec 23, 2017 #25

My vote is, and has been for quite some time now, that Zed has already said everything that Zed was ever going to say, repeated several times over, and has no new ideas to contribute, and certainly no useful or constructive ones. Zed has long ago burned through everything that reasonable patience can tolerate, to the point of absurdity. We ought to retire Zed permanently. Then perhaps there would be room on this forum for others in category Zee to come out of the woodwork and have more fruitful discussions.
As of 1202/03/01[z]=2018/03/01[d] I use:
ten,eleven = ↊↋, ᘔƐ, ӾƐ, XE or AB.
Base-neutral base annotations
Systematic Dozenal Nomenclature
Primel Metrology
Western encoding (not by choice)
Greasemonkey + Mathjax + PrimelDozenator
(Links to these and other useful topics are in my index post;
click on my user name and go to my "Website" link)
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Joined: 11:02 AM - Sep 19, 2015

6:59 AM - Dec 24, 2017 #26

icarus @ Dec 23 2017, 02:55 PM wrote: I am trying to ascertain, should I buy the database, would we lose our posts? Because it is an exit method, not an archive one. But should happen next week.
From what I understand, only posts before the time you buy the database will be preserved; anything after that will not. So if you do that, you should probably announce in advance the time and date you do it: we'd have to stop posting before that time, though.

I am not sure if we need to do it, since Tapatalk is apparently working on supporting doHTML now and fixing the problems we've identified, but it's probably better to be prepared in case the problems are just insurmountable.

EDIT: Though given that the Tapatalk Dozensonline version is now inaccessible, it seems likely that work is being done on that end, so that we may not need to go through with buying the database at all if everything gets sorted out on that front, if everyone is happy with the terms of service of Tapatalk. Which, now that I actually read them, do not seem to include some of the rather undesirable things quoted by DK at the Forum Migration thread, raising the question of where those quotes of his came from; but that's a topic for that thread, which I have added.
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Joined: 12:29 PM - Apr 11, 2006

12:37 AM - Dec 30, 2017 #27

First of January there shall be peace. We won't be taking this into 1202;.

Come what may, perhaps you all won't be happy. Things need to be put right. No one has the time to unpack it all. I intend to completely end the squabbling once and for all.

I can't be everyone's buddy and mashallah now I am through with nicey nice.

Those who have squabbled are on notice. Who are dozenalists, who are not? This is a dozens forum.
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Joined: 12:29 PM - Apr 11, 2006

12:06 PM - May 30, 2018 #28

Notice.

This is to make notice that wendy, with whom I have been in contact with privately, has directly threatened me and my family on another channel. The threat is tantamount to extortion; because of this and that the threat is ad hominem, I won't entertain her return, for the safety of those on the forum. As of this morning I have finally blocked her and won't respond to any further communications from her. Further communications are pointless.

We had chatted for months. The subject often revolved about her being banned. We had explained the ban; we'd gone through multiple waves of conflict and previous bans, most especially at this time last year when she was let back in and commenced to reopen all the wounds and enflame the board anew. I attempted to coach her last summer into clarifying positions in threads where her content belonged, to build on her ideas. Now if she were to let the past go and start anew without referring to any previous altercation, I would have entertained her return early. She couldn't let it go. On her part she did have a recent death of a close relation (I also lost an aunt last week; it was the very aunt who'd suggested to me at age dozen that uncial is better than hexadecimal, the latter with which I had been fascinated, mainly because "all the fractions come out with twelve"). It appears even before then that the forum was an outlet for her mind, but the sort of outlet she needs cannot be handled by the Members of this forum. It is not designed for such. This is simply an internet discussion forum whose primary focus is duodecimal mathematics. It is not a self-help or a therapy means. If someone needs help, one should turn to properly trained people or groups locally for that help. We cannot be expected to aid personal issues.

While I sympathize with her situation, I will not describe it in detail, I can't handle any more contact. Her presence here in the future would be inappropriate. She'll have to find another channel.

Mostly because of the time difference between her location and mine, her messages would come in the wee hours of the night. These would often be yet another complaint or assertion regarding being banned from the forum. Recently she began to suggest it was due to identity politics. I don't play that game; I have more Pokemon points than she or anyone else has; half cannibal, half viking, half winged fable, I am the most diverse person on this planet. When I warned her she was jeopardizing our friendship, she mustered on. I had suggested this was the last straw just before these three of five recent messages. This is the most pointed text of her haranguing me over the last fortnight:

“You never addressed why i am banned, and as a result, i am supposed to guess what's in your mind when you did this. None of my emails were answered. I am left in the dark, largely because you throw hissy fits and give out extraordinary bans.,

...
 
It's quite clear what you can do. Just unban me. No strings attached. Or post a reason on the forum why i have been banned. Something consumate to when I got banned. My sister-in-law was a moderator on a chat-server. She managed to get stalkers jailed in the US. I don't want to go that way, but i am quite happy to flush the necessary info down the moderator chain, if you want.
 
All i can do is moan about this, because i can't post. I tried to set an alternate post channel, but you misread what i wanted to do. I don't like being banned. It makes me aggy.”
Therefore she's demonstrated she can't handle the forum and will not return.

We'll not have another situation like this. The admins have spent many hours dealing with wendy's situation, and it's just not worth it to labor along with this kind of person. I will be more keen to shut down altercations in the future. No one has time for any of this.

This message is merely posted as a witness to the suggested "extortion" ploy and the threat, in case it were to crop up here or in other channels. I have saved the communications and if any damage has occurred due to her issues, I will offer them as evidence.

I don't expect apologies from any party, nor do I expect any sort of reflection upon those events; they are in the past and the record of them is preserved herein for anyone to see. They will not be expunged. We have dealt with this already. Let's just close this and move on.

Let this be an end to all of it.
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1:50 PM - May 30, 2018 #29

Notice.

In consultation with other admins, and in light of the recent actions of the former Member, I have deleted wendy's account. She will not be allowed to return.

Between E; July 11E8; and this spring, wendy posted 16E2; times, about 1;3 times a day, or 9;99 pergross of the forum posts. Her posts favored an alternating-place notation of base X0;, which she called "twelfty". I did publish an article about twelfty in the Duodecimal Bulletin the year before she posted here, and it was I who had suggested she join the forum. Her critique of uncial was often rational if one did dig deep enough. We can name problems and we can cite the long-running rivalries with which we have dealt. All the posts still stand as they were, left where they'd been posted as a record of all of wendy's actions here. We need not go into the negatives. Wendy's concepts regarding bases like 19; 47; and 83; wherein we have not only a decent number of divisors, but also divisors of neighboring numbers, was a fresh insight. The "sevenite" or generalized base-b Wieferich prime, for instance, 7 in base 16;, but most prominently 3 in decimal, is another big insight. She defined "sevenite" as a prime that divided its own period, meaning that its reptend had the same repeating length for the square, sometimes the cube, etc., as the prime itself; decimal 1/3 = .3 and decimal 1/9 = .1. She was fond of Ifrah and Neugebauer and of the restoration of Germanic names to modern use, using the Old English letter þ "thorn" in her everyday writing. The use of alternating notation she called "staves" or "twistaff" in order to represent highly divisible bases like X0; is brilliant and many here have tested or perhaps still employ it. I, myself, was pretty fond of certain of her insights and did and will continue to credit her when I wrote about them. It was nice to know and correspond with her before the past few months and I gather it would've been grand to talk with her person to person were it possible, especially in the beginning years. I have lost a friend and will miss her. The connection was untenable and it is unfortunate. If you perceive that I mischaracterise what she's contributed, all things she's posted remain here for you to explore. I ask that those with the power to move or alter what she wrote refrain from it and allow it to speak as she'd written them, as many (certainly not all) things she wrote about are her own thoughts and have something significant to say.
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1:04 PM - Jun 10, 2018 #30

Notice.

Banned users who reapply surreptitiously and post will be treated as trolls and all their posts deleted along with their account.

Please refrain from replying to trolls as their content will be erased it its entirety. "Don't feed the trolls."
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