Christianity In America

Taxidriver
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Joined: 18 Oct 2007, 17:21

25 Aug 2014, 11:36 #31

This story sounds familiar. I've had younger people ask me what life was like
from the 60's through the 80's and I tell them that the big thing missing then was the
internet. Even if people want to fall for this kind of crap at least they do it
with a few contrary voices they can read. For a lot of us we wondered why
other churches shunned TBS/GGWO, Billy Graham wouldn't have us in Boston
etc. and later you see that there were creeping red flags all over the place
that you were groomed to ignore as evil reports etc.
Today the red pill is right before you with these groups if you have the
couage to take it, especially for those who don't have anything to protect
and are open minded. Things like this story would have been exposed
a lot sooner. This is why stupid illluminati messages went unchallenged back
in 79.
I know some people would still fall for it anyway but a lot of people would
exit a lot sooner as the evidence of BS piled up. If this guy was around in
the 70's it would take 20 years to catch up as the revolving door of members
continued without anyone else having a voice of opposition.
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Dude
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Joined: 27 Mar 2008, 19:32

25 Aug 2014, 15:26 #32

The follow up in today's NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us/facin...ke-a-leave.html

It is familiar. Namely that the leader feels it's his church and he is above being challenged or corrected. In this case the Internet helped break down the "No Talk Rule" and something is being done about it.

I had not heard of Mark Driscoll before reading the Aug 22 article. I think his statement regarding stepping down says a lot about him: “This is one of the paradoxes of being a pastor in the media age: The same media channels that can be used to carry a sermon to virtually anyone around the globe can also be used by anyone around the globe to criticize, attack or slander,” he said. “However, another part of it is simply my fault, and I will own it, confess it, and move on from it as God continues to redeem me.”

Translation: 'I've been slandered and God will redeem me.'

GGWO members who have concerns should talk it out among themselves. Discuss GGWO provides a way to discuss the problem and share information anonymously for people who are afraid of being "marked."
"No, I do mind. The Dude minds."
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M C Rafferty
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Joined: 05 Jan 2014, 01:28

30 Aug 2014, 15:12 #33

Mark yes and few words
And you and I
YES

like this morning running into (you know them) @ Costco from the music department in ggwo
here in my new home town of Baltimore

a sudden look in the eye
easy smile? maybe

Not withstanding the thought of a recent friend to forget them

but would never wish that plague to move upon another region

Taxi driver is correct
Reading is fund a mental
and I shall add music has
been a true and blessed friend

Thank you DUDE for the RE/search
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John Collins
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Joined: 22 Jan 2006, 14:48

16 Oct 2014, 03:44 #34

Glenn Close Reveals She Was Raised in a Cult: "You Basically Weren't Allowed to Do Anything"
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entert...141015/b588861/
Inquiry is fatal to certainty.
-Will Durant, author, historian and philosopher.

Dr. Durant and his wife Ariel were awarded the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction in 1968 and the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1977.
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Dude
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Joined: 27 Mar 2008, 19:32

16 Oct 2014, 11:40 #35

“There has been no attempt to reach out and make things right with the many disenfranchised people harmed by the abusive environment.”

Divisive Pastor Quits Post at Seattle Church NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us/mark-...-mars-hill.html
"No, I do mind. The Dude minds."
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Dude
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Joined: 27 Mar 2008, 19:32

29 Nov 2014, 13:14 #36

"Studies show that during episodes of stress, grief and depression, more Americans turn to clergy than mental health professionals....Yet many new pastors like Mr. Brogli feel overwhelmed and ill equipped to help. Conservative Protestant seminaries offer little education in psychology, instead favoring courses on pastoral counseling with prayer and reading the Bible."

More Pastors Embrace Talk of Mental Ills NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/29/health/m...-ills.html?_r=0
"No, I do mind. The Dude minds."
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Dude
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Joined: 27 Mar 2008, 19:32

10 Dec 2014, 13:59 #37

"No, I do mind. The Dude minds."
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