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9:41 AM - Aug 06, 2017 #11

I like most others who has seen these faces tend to call them demons. I'm not so sure how to label this phenomenon. It was just recent that I met a woman who saw the same type of face. We exchange back and forth about our experience to discover that most what we saw was the same down to the evil grin. I the asked, "When did you first see a face change to evil?". She replied, " December the tenth" which sent chills down my spine as I hastily blurted out, "that's the same time it first happened to me".

Now since I realize I'm not alone I decided to Google to see if others are out there with this experience. It led me to this forum which I find really nice. The post are informative and I see well policed. The biggest percentage of descriptions others give of experience of face changing to evil match my experience. Most add the remark in some form stating they are telling the truth, same thing I do when telling story. When you see something of this nature the whole world tears down around you and you are sitting there in such clarity. It's hard to explain but you know this is real.

I have a story to tell but it is long and I'm very tired. I will tell it in my following post. I look forward to be a part of this community.

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2:25 AM - Aug 08, 2017 #12

So glad you are sharing your experiences with us here Chowtowin. Although it was quite a long time ago, this is exactly what I experienced, as far as seeing another face appear on someone else's, and close friends were seeing another face appear on me as well!
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9:20 PM - Aug 08, 2017 #13

You and the woman having the experience on the same date is interesting. 1 out of 365 isn't impossible of course but a rare thing like that to happen? I hope others will find these posts and maybe share and know they're not alone. I really didn't think about searching the net for others until March 2016. Thinking back I can't believe I didn't do it sooner.
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9:08 PM - Aug 09, 2017 #14

I don't know what the visual differences are or how they appear and why, but the second time this happened it was more than just eye contact with one of them. I was alone in a vehicle with one who looked very similar to the first one but I only got a good look at the guy in the van before his face changed.

So, my questions are; what do you think happened in your case, Keith? You've seen this take place in another person, but also you learn someone sees this happen to you. This would be a "YIKES" moment, and that's an obvious understatement. You weren't sitting around grinning at strangers I'm sure, and were you sensing anything taking place?

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6:59 PM - Aug 18, 2017 #15

In response to the Cauldron issue - they are sometimes (and by sometimes I mean rarely) used by those practicing witchcraft. The vast majority of the time that is not demonic in nature, as witchcraft has no real religious ideation, it is a practice separate from an ideology, and can be practiced with virtually any religion. And yes, there is a thing called a Christian Witch. I've never wrapped my head around it, but there it is.

Blood may sometimes be used in ritual, but not usually, and if it is it is in very small amounts, like a drop. Most don't use it. Feathers are often used, but they are bought at the local occult shop packaged nicely. In other words, it's highly doubtful someone chopped off a chicken head and poured its blood and feathers into a cauldron. Even practitioners of Santeria, who do occasionally practice animal sacrifice, would not be dumping the stuff into a cauldron - the darker stuff usually has skeletal remains of a human, along with dirt,in a cauldron.

The energy you felt probably did feel weird - it's a different harnessing of energy, and if one is sensitive to those sorts of energy shifts, one will feel slightly off kilter.

Please note I'm not doubting your experiences, and I am truly sorry for what you are going through. My only point here is the Cauldron, while it may be Pagan, is not something to be overtly terrified of in terms of the demonic. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

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2:45 AM - Aug 20, 2017 #16

That's interesting to know because I called it a "cauldron" much later after the incident but when I think of a cauldron now I imagine a very large, round metal pot sitting on top of a low fire where witches added different things like the popular "eye of newt" to make potions, etc, typical in movies and cartoons.

What would a person or group use in a more ritualistic sense to inflict suffering or death to someone specifically by using the persons hair and blood, etc?
Is that a cauldron and would it be used in a more ceremonial type setting?
Maybe I've got a cauldron in my mind being used in worship, curses, potions, brews, (and the base for Hansel and Gretel stew.)

Thanks Twinkle, I always appreciate and respect what you, Keith, Cullen and the others give us to think about.
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5:33 PM - Aug 22, 2017 #17

Honestly, for most cursing or hexing spells there is no cauldron used for ritual. It usually involves something personal of the person you want cursed. It could be hair, nails, etc - but it's most usually just a picture of the person.

The rituals themselves vary from belief system to belief system - but I've never read of any curse ritual involving a pot of any kind to hold such items. One curse is a simple placing a candle over the picture of the person you want harmed, reciting a ritual, and letting it burn out. Another is simply writing their name on a piece of paper, reciting a ritual, and throwing it in the freezer. Like I said, pretty simple and not at all the whole witchy cauldron thing. It's not the pot, it's the energy being harnessed and sent forth that does the damage.

The ingredients used to invoke a curse would be different as well - but the most common and effective are simple. The rituals are not all that time consuming unless one is into ceremonial magick. And those people use cauldrons for different purposes than cursing anyone.

They just look scary.

Voodoo rituals are something else entirely - I would say the vast majority of the time the cauldrons are used for more folk healing rituals....although it certain areas they are thought to contain the spirit of the dead. It is possible someone could use that energy to do *something* I would not say that's a curse though. It's more of a containment thing, unless someone wants to let it out. The areas where that sort of thing would be done is not in the United States.

Please note that I'm not trying to negate that a cauldron could be used for something nefarious. I'm just trying to give a balanced perspective on the modern use of a cauldron in our region by practitioners.
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5:47 PM - Dec 12, 2017 #18

Just to throw my 0.2 cents in because it's interesting :) I grew up with practicing devil worshipers  they use lots of blood menstrual blood works the best at times, dogs cats it depends. It is still a reality and happens quite frequently. 
I do not think withces do, IMO witches are not 'evil' because they are witches the same for people who practice voodoo or santaria they are evil because of themselves and the choices they make. 
I frequent the Botanicas here where I live benefiting from their oils and candles a lot and while you can do workings and spell designed for harm there is a strong argument over what is just and what is unjust.. My understanding is cauldrons are used to concentrate the energy of the ingredients much like a wand or poppet..and when they are iron protective and powerful. As i have understood them. they represent the womb of the goddess and gods.  
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5:51 PM - Dec 12, 2017 #19

Chowtowin wrote: I like most others who has seen these faces tend to call them demons.  I'm not so sure how to label this phenomenon.  It was just recent that I met a woman who saw the same type of face.  We exchange back and forth about our experience to discover that most what we saw was the same down to the evil grin.  I the asked, "When did you first see a face change to evil?".  She replied, " December the tenth" which sent chills down my spine as I hastily blurted out, "that's the same time it first happened to me".  

Now since I realize I'm not alone I decided to Google to see if others are out there with this experience.  It led me to this forum which I find really nice.  The post are informative and I see well policed.  The biggest percentage of descriptions others give of experience of face changing to evil match my experience.  Most add the remark in some form stating they are telling the truth, same thing I do when telling story.  When you see something of this nature the whole world tears down around you and you are sitting there in such clarity.  It's hard to explain but you know this is real.

I have a story to tell but it is long and I'm very tired.  I will tell it in my following post.  I look forward to be a part of this community.

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Hi,

I wrote about this in my book my mother placed a witches cord around my waist many years ago as she did so I watched her face change at least 2 times once to make her appear as if she was ill.. her skin went gray as she prended to struggle for breath next her face took on the most vile of attributes her eyes even changed directly prior to her tying the cord around me. It was not her. It was absolutely 100 percent not her her voice face eyes were someone else.. something else. I is said to rare... I don't believe it is are only said to be.. welcome to the forum in any event. :) 
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