Getting My Dogs To Hunt Further Out

Getting My Dogs To Hunt Further Out

deckerman
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13 Feb 2011, 23:16 #1

My dogs are hunting closer to me than I like............. One of the things I treasure about deckers is how close they hunt. But lately they've been hunting a little too close. I think it is partly because of the deep snow, but how can I get them to hunt a little further away from me?
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Slickrock Deckers
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14 Feb 2011, 03:21 #2

in my limited experience a close hunter's range can somewhat be expanded by running them with a longer ranging animal - a deeper hunting dog by squirrel hunter's lingo, as in deeper into the woods. So far my long rangers are stuck at home while I run the more attentive (to me) dogs. New pup Duke wears the tracking collar and I want him learning to hunt close with Slickrock and Kimi and not running out with Bobcat and Moki. (Chipper the rat terrier don't count, he's usually within 50 feet) Duke's max so far has been 157 yards so I guess that's my definition of close and quite in line with what I want. Certainly out of sight in thick woods. My close hunters might go out as far as the rangers sometimes but reliably return sooner. In fact I know which dogs will be back in order, nearly every time.
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14 Feb 2011, 13:28 #3

Another observation I made in Arizona was that they hunt close while I am on the move but range out if I stop. If you saw my you tube video I was sitting on a rock. they went out twice to about 400 yards max and came right back. Part of that is they just like to run thru the open country. The command "git the rabbit" was my signal that I wanted them to go do just that. Git the squirrel and stay there and bark at it is another level entirely. If they had a reliably continuous tree bark I could find them of course but it does appear some training will be required to do this.
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14 Feb 2011, 16:58 #4

Yeah...what Jack said seems to be true for me. Hunt them with a farther ranging dog and they will go further out, and mine stay a lot closer when I'm moving, but will go further when I stop. Also...they go further out the older they get and more comfortable they are. Aside from Darby, your other dogs are still pretty young...they will go further as they age. At least that's how it has worked for me.
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15 Feb 2011, 05:15 #5

Ellis you make a good point, the pups are just 8 months old and Darby flat out hates the snow for some reason so far she is the only one out of my 4 that haven't loved the snow.............
Jack I always use the sitting in one place trick which has pretty much always worked up until now, like I said I think it may be becuase we've been recieving large amounts of snow lately. Also I will definetely try running them with farther ranging dogs I think that will impact it alot! Thank you for both of your inputs!!

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14 Jan 2014, 18:27 #6

I like to plant dizzied pigeons at the edge of the range I want them to work, they get used to flushing at that range, so they start ranging out farther. If it's a pup and isn't very bold yet, it helps to have a couple buddies with wings or clip wing birds that they can throw in to jazz them up. You know what they say about training elephant dogs, you need lots of elephants.
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Bill Warner
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09 Feb 2014, 03:14 #7

I have six deckers and my oldest three hunt according to the amount of cover. in thick cover they stay close and check back from time to time. and in open country they hunt like field trial bird dogs as they will cover a lot of ground looking for game. never have tried to make them hunt any other way, maybe I am lucky with these dogs. they hunt a lot like pointers I had some years ago.
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