The SOPA Bill

The SOPA Bill

Stop the Machine
Stop the Machine

December 11th, 2011, 10:41 pm #1

What are your feelings about the SOPA bill - a bill congress wants to pass in order to censor the Internet?

Details on what SOPA is can be found here:


http://www.americancensorship.org/
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jiggy
jiggy

December 11th, 2011, 11:12 pm #2

Seems like it could be a mess but, I agree with the spirit of what they're trying to do.
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AnonoGobble
AnonoGobble

December 12th, 2011, 4:30 am #3

More like shooting yourself in the foot, if you ask me.
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December 12th, 2011, 5:11 am #4

I don't doubt that's how it will end up.
On the surface though, the stated goal is to stop piracy.
Website owners want to take the "I can't control what people put on my site" tactic but, in fact, they can. If you are too lazy to police your site, you shouldn't have one.

If I owned a brick and mortar needlepoint pillow shop but it was really used exclusively by my customers to pirate DVDs, my ass would go to jail.

That "THE SKY IS FALLING" website that you linked says that the man is trying to limit our free speech. I don't think stolen intellectual property is constitutionally protected.
They say it isn't fair to block add funding or not allowing online payments to your site selling stolen property because you didn't put it there but, in reality, the only reason you have any web traffic at all is because you allow stolen shit to be pirated on your website.



You're comparing apples and exceptionally bad taste -DJ
<i>You're comparing apples and exceptionally bad taste</i> -DJ
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AnonoGobble
AnonoGobble

December 12th, 2011, 5:26 am #5

Okay Jiggy. From that perspective, I see where you are going.
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December 12th, 2011, 5:39 am #6

I am all about no censorship on the intertubes and I am absolutely against service providers deciding what speeds you can get depending on what sites you visit but I am A-OK with putting a stop to online theft.

Not that I'm not guilty of it. I've just come to the realization that if people don't get paid for their work, they will stop working and the only "music" we'll have to listen to is a bunch of autotune crap made by hoards of bloggers that nobody has ever read.

I can pay 99 cents for a song I like or $5 for a movie. No problem.

You're comparing apples and exceptionally bad taste -DJ
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Joined: February 5th, 2003, 5:14 am

December 12th, 2011, 2:22 pm #7

SOPA is very bad.

Jiggy's opinion is underinformed and dangerous. That is all. It's no surprise that the only people that support SOPA are lobbyists and people that don't know anything about it.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201111 ... deas.shtml
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jiggy
jiggy

December 12th, 2011, 5:27 pm #8

That was a good article and I see their point. It's too bad that the law would be used in ways it isn't intended but, I'm sure it would be.
I tend to be a little less "Chicken Little" in my views than the author of that article but I certainly can't say they are wrong.

So, I've changed my mind. SOPA is a bad idea.
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Joined: February 5th, 2003, 5:14 am

December 12th, 2011, 7:13 pm #9

I figured that would be the case. That's why I chose to say you were underinformed rather than just wrong.

I do agree that the (alleged) principle behind the bill is commendable though.

I'm just very uncomfortable with the fact that the only thing stopping the giant media conglomerates from abusing the law if it is passed is their assurances that they won't. They have a terrible track record when it comes to digital rights so far.

The fact that sites are given absolutely no recourse when these media giants decide to "shut them off" is also unsettling. Todd's site is an overwhelming success in comparison to most independent websites, and I've no doubt that he would have very little chance against someone like Time Warner if some random exec there decided to shut him down. And the record of their Cease and Desist letters has clearly shown that piracy often has little to do with earning the ire of the big media companies.

It really doesn't matter. SOPA, or something like it, will be passed eventually. There is simply too much money behind it for it to not pass.
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Ginny
Ginny

December 12th, 2011, 7:29 pm #10

What are your feelings about the SOPA bill - a bill congress wants to pass in order to censor the Internet?

Details on what SOPA is can be found here:


http://www.americancensorship.org/
Thanks for the info, I'll try and take a look at all this. I hadn't heard of it, I thought this was going to be a thread about Mexican soup.
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