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Scrooge McSuck
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December 22nd, 2015, 11:58 pm #21

LOL

I went and saw it last night, and without spoilers, I'd say it was a very entertaining 2+ hours, it made me care for the new characters (most of them), gave us some old ones in cameos and surprisingly large roles, and just gave me new hope after how remarkably bad Episodes 1-2 and to certain extents, Episode 3 was.

My only complaints were one character who I assumed was going to be a bigger deal being treated as an afterthought, and teasing a death only to go "fooled you!" Even scenes that were predictable and maybe a bit corny gave me goosebumps.

I'd give it 3-1/2 out of 4, or a 4 out of 5.
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December 24th, 2015, 5:38 pm #22

I'd say it's a worthy addition to the Star Wars series and fits in very well.

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-Lot of connections and similarities to the first film. But it worked.

-Like seeing "The Hobbit", you've just paid $15-20 to see a movie about spaceships, robots and wizards... so don't try to be cool. Just enjoy it.

-Since Star Wars (proper) left movies in 1983, we've seen more modern sci-fi flicks and thought: "hey, something like that would've been cool in Star Wars". Thinking of flicks like "Aliens" and the relaunched "Battlestar Galactica" series. Felt like those were worked in.

-Glad they found Luke in the final minute. I was dreading that they were going to end with them flying off to find him and thinking it was all a set-up for Episode 8. So, yay.

-My first thought when they found Luke:"oh shit. It's the island from LOST. This is going to suck".

-Y'know, it may very well have been the same filming location for parts of LOST. Those rocky crags and shores looked familiar. Same way Peter Jackson re-used sets he liked for "Lord of the Rings".

-My second thought when they found Luke: "hey, he looks good OLD! Actually... he kinda' looks like Oliver Reed, now".

-No way to tell while watching, but Daniel Craig as the Stormtrooper was a fun Easter egg.

-I figured the big DEATH was coming... because the new Big Bad Guy needed some way to get the audience to dislike him. Aside from dressing in black and being all mean. Now, we think he's a giant asshole emo douche-bag.

-Also glad they didn't tease Kylo Ren's unmasking and his connection. It was established about 1/2 way through that he's Han and Leia's kid. With enough new questions, this is one we didn't need hanging.

-I expected more background on Finn's switch. He sees blood and decides that being a Stormtrooper sucks. This will probably be filled in more, as we go on. As it is, his motivation doesn't seem justified.

-While the speculation is that Rey is Luke's kid (or Obi-Wan's grandaughter), I'd put my money on her being Kylo Ren's twin sister. They seemed to be symbolizing that in her duel with Kylo Ren. Plus the way she gravitated to Han..and it makes her big hug with Leia seem all the more important. It's said that twins run in the family.

-Yeah, so the Millennium Falcon AND the Old Guy with Vital Info are both on the same planet as Rey? Seems suspicious.

-"Supreme Leader Snoke"? Errr. Probably the weakest part, to me. He reminded me of "Imperious Leader" from the 1970's "Battlestar Galactica". That's not a compliment.

-They made the First Order come off like straight-up Nazi cockbags. Especially in that giant troop scene. Nazis were supposedly some of Lucas' inspiration for the original Empire, so that was appropriate.

-In the final battle(s), I kept thinking: "please let Chewbacca survive! Please let Chewbacca survive!" I would've cried like a baby if they had killed off Chewie. I was extremely happy when he showed up in the Falcon. As I've gotten older, I just frickin' love Chewbacca all the more.

-Along those lines, I think the only good thing the prequels gave us was those 45 seconds of Wookie Army Ass-Kicking.
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December 24th, 2015, 9:00 pm #23

I'm seeing a lot of complaints over Finn using a lightsaber. Did everyone miss the scene where he fights a stormtrooper and the Trooper is trained in combat with that type of weapon? No, he won't have the force to guide his thoughts and do fancy tricks, but its still a possible scenario, and guess what... he wasn't very good with it.


I thought his development was too sudden, but they made me really invested in the character and I feared his death when Kylo Ren sliced him up his spine.


Also disappointed in the way Captain Phasma was introduced as a high ranking trooper... and is easily made to look like a chump. But you gotta' sell toys!


I don't know enough about Snoke, but so far I'm leaning thumbs down. Maybe they'll give us more to chew on in Episode VIII, but so far, kylo Ren is the only villain I really want to see get his, but also hope he can be reformed.
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December 28th, 2015, 6:48 pm #24

I felt like it was a solid continuation of the story of the originals.

I really liked how they used Finn and Rey to demonstrate the difference in how the story of the originals was told to the different sides. Finn believing that Han was a general in the resistance.

Count me in on thinking Rey is Ren's sister. It's such a natural continuation of the family story.

I loved seeing Han and Chewie so early on. I also popped for Greg Grunberg. I know he's one of JJ's friends and "go-to" guys, but I thought he worked perfectly for what little he did.

I do like that Kylo Ren isn't as menacing and all-powerful as Darth Vader. His tantrums give you the feeling that he isn't invincible, which is good. It makes him a better heel, in my book.
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December 29th, 2015, 12:28 pm #25

I loved every bit of this movie.

I liked how Kylo Ren continues Anakin Skywalker's tradition as the emotional, whiny, unlikable nuisance, but this time he's the VILLAIN so it works perfectly.

I hope Rey isn't related to Ren in any way, shape or form, because that seems like far too convenient of an OMG PLOT TWIST!!! I could buy her being a relative of Obi-Wan Kenobi, but being any relation to the Skywalker's or Solo's is just pushing it a touch too far for my tastes.

Loved, loved, LOVED the final showdown in the snowy forest as the planet is crumbling apart. That Finn/Rey vs. Ren finale was vicious, personal, and to borrow a phrase from wrestling, well-booked. Ren was sporting a nasty wound from getting blasted by Chewbacca and was fighting one-handed, giving Finn and Rey the opportunity to hold their own against him. I like that when we last hear of Ren he's getting shipped off for more training, so he should be quite the monstrosity in Episode VIII.

I honestly felt that Rey was the perfect choice for main hero this time around and that Daisy Ridley nailed the performance. I got chills when she wielded Luke's lightsabre for the final showdown (and I'm more than curious to find out how that lightsabre made it from Cloud City to that closet).

I could go on and on about this movie. I saw it a second time yesterday and somehow liked it even more.
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Erick Von Erich
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January 5th, 2016, 3:46 pm #26

One little tidbit that I forgot to mention: noticed that the Millennium Falcon has a square radar dish, now. Since the old circular radar dish was busted off during the big Death Star II battle in "Return of the Jedi". Continuity!
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