Mad Dog,Nov 30 2017 wrote: Batman and the Outsiders felt like DC trying to do a Marvel book.
Yeah. That's a very accurate description.
Character-wise, it's very similar to what they did with "New Teen Titans" in 1980. Take one established character (Batman or Robin), mix in some existing secondary holdover characters (Metamorpho and Black Lightning or Kid Flash, Changeling and Wonder Girl), then three new characters (Geo-Force, Katana and Halo or Cyborg, Raven and Starfire). I think a lot of fans picked up on this, which is why they were all clamoring for a Titans/Outsiders team-up.
Batman was kind of all over the place in the 80's and fairly inconsistent. The Outsiders set up shop in the Bat-Cave, but I think they're only rarely mentioned in "Batman" and "Detective Comics". I don't think Batman's exodus from the JLA was in that book, either.
There is some karma with Batman walking out on the JLA, though. In issue 32 (-ish) of "Batman & The Outsiders", Geo-Force wants them to return to Markovia to save a friend. Which is the same exact thing Batman wanted to do in #1. Batman refuses to let them go and disbands the team. But they continue on, anyways.
It's weird, because I think Batman then storms back to the JLA (Detroit version), circa 1986, and takes over that team, immediately. He fades away in time for "Legends" and I think that's when they finally reeled in Batman and made him consistent. I don't think it's a coincidence that Denny O'Neil's tenure as "Batman group editor" started around that time.