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Jen, I know what you mean, but for the time being at least that route is closed to me, for better or for worse. I left the Lutheran church a few years ago, when the (female) Bishop Eva Brunne wanted to mark out the direction to Mecca and remove Christian symbols from a church in Stockholm in order to accomodate the growing numbers of intolerant and disrespectful Muslims, the rapist and murderous followers of that most vile and crude desert heresy against Christ. It was the final drop to make the chalice topple. I had had enough.Jen wrote: Yes, there are songs that can make you crossdream, and yes, there are pictures that can make you crossdream. But for me, the strongest crossdreaming inspirations are religious art and architecture. Who would have thoug thunk??!!!
Amazing use of light as art.
Metal as nature (the brass lilies).
A section for the musicians to make the sounds that summon the heavens. (Shamans!)
Candles, yes, light and scents that go up to the heavens.
@Monique , a Lutheran church, dear diva, a Lutheran church.
Yes, absolutely!April wrote:In fact, rigid adherence to theological dogma I see as the key problem in all religion. Add on to that the use of religion as a mechanism for power, and a tool to enforce social conformity, and religion becomes tyranny rather than a liberator of the soul.
So heartfelt encouraging to see you often enjoy my posts as you are somebody I actually respect. May I return the courtesy by pointing out that few are able to achieve the nuance and being so to the point with words as you, and consequently admit that I love reading your posts as well? You have that well grounded wise femininity about you.April wrote: Monique, Good to see you back. I usually love your posts, although I tend to find myself often simultaneously agreeing, disagreeing, and scratching my head while reading them. You have a very interesting view of things, which I sometimes struggle to comprehend because it's so different than my own. I suspect that some of this is related to our individual upbringings in different cultures, I am by no means anti religion. I have even had several flirtations with churches in my life, but I consider myself to be a person of spirituality who has been influenced by ideas coming from many sources, and not a member of any one faith. At the very least, orthodox Christians would consider me a fallen heretic, if I ever had the opportunity to discuss with them what I truly believe. My mother I think pretty much believed in the core Christian doctrines, but never liked going to a church, or having any formal association with them. I think she hated the communal aspects of it, and the demands for conformity that churches place on their members. I absorbed a lot of that thinking in my youth, and later on that merged with an evolving philosophy that made individualism my core value, and libertarianism as my core ideology. To me, the real issue is not that one religion is better than another and it’s just matter of that religion being faithful to its central dogma. In fact, rigid adherence to theological dogma I see as the key problem in all religion. Add on to that the use of religion as a mechanism for power, and a tool to enforce social conformity, and religion becomes tyranny rather than a liberator of the soul.
What do you mean "do something" about it? There is nothing you can do. Two things about the Church of Sweden:jdb.lal3899 wrote:
P.S. @Monique - Can you, or are you willing to, do something about the Church of Sweden? (Private mail if you like.)