Glamour, Beauty and Crossdreaming

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Glamour, Beauty and Crossdreaming

FrostRaven18
Joined: 03 Sep 2017, 07:17

08 Sep 2017, 04:32 #1

My mother is a practical woman. She's an English teacher of more then 30 years, her hair is short, she wears pants almost exclusively and on the semi annual occasion she puts on makeup she looks... strange. It might be a reaction to her, sorry mom frumpiness, or it could be a byproduct of living in a consumerist society, or hell maybe I'm just a vain conceited bitch. But I'm fascinated by the intersection of beauty and feminine power. The word glamour come from the Scottish and there word glamer meaning magic, enchantment or spell. There is something magical about beauty and in my fantasies I'm very much in possession of that magic. I sometimes question the rightness of this, that I would not want to be just any ordinary girl or even worse ugly. So is it wrong to be so covetous. Am I in fact the kind of leering man I've always hated but even worse because I want even more from the object of my lust. Or is it only natural to want charm and good looks. I don't know.
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Dawn
Joined: 27 Jul 2017, 08:02

08 Sep 2017, 04:59 #2

I believe its natural to want charm and good looks.

I also think, as an mtf, that one of the things that held me back from accepting that I am mtf was the idea that I'd be an ugly, fat, woman. I mean, what's worse than being a 400lbs guy? A 400lbs woman. Or, at least, that's what I thought.

Did this come from my attempt at a male perspective, or from my inner female? I can't be sure, but now that I know I'm a woman... I'd much rather be me than anything else!
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Deborah Kate
Joined: 26 Nov 2015, 21:58

08 Sep 2017, 19:52 #3

of course i want to look beautiful. it's not about power, it's about expressing your inner feminine beauty. xx
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Monique
Joined: 25 Mar 2016, 09:30

09 Sep 2017, 10:31 #4

Wanting to be glamourous is part of my desire to be a woman. Or is it the other way around? I want to be a woman so I can be glamourous? I couldn't tell. Wanting to be beautiful and wanting to be a woman is the same thing for me.

I'm with Deborah Kate on this. The way you want to be beautiful is your inner kind of femininity shining through. Neither is beauty significant because it can be exchanged into something else, say, power. Beauty is an absolute value unto itself. Beauty is an idea. Plato even held it to be one of the three highest ideas (beauty, truth and the good). Asking the meaning of beauty is like asking the meaning of pleasure, to which it is closely related. It's pointless.

As a matter of fact, I'd trade in power for feminine beauty in a heartbeat if I could. I don't mind being a slave, not in the slightest actually, as long as I can be a ravishing creature in a gilded cage, wallowing in pleasure. If you think like this you're probably a bad, naughty and nasty crossdreamer.

We live in an imperfect universe where beauty is lacking and we cannot escape the less than perfect outer shells of ourselves. And because far from all women are as beautiful as they deserve, that's where things like "questioning the rightness" of wanting to be beautiful originate. But that's just this physical universe. In other worlds that are spiritual in nature, everyone can be as beautiful as they want to and feel like. If for no other reason, because over there, they say there is no difference between the inner and outer, between spirit and phenomena. It's all one "substance" (to speak scholastically).

Which is not to say such worlds don't differ from each other. For instance, in my paradise, where my soul belongs, there are no puffy cloud angels. It's a much too dark and iradescent midnight blue for that; it's a place of maternal excess, of orgiastic pleasure and decadent lustful perversity, of evil beauty and a warm, loving evil good.
"We live only to discover beauty. All else is a form of waiting."

- Khalil Gibran


If I cannot be a feminine traditional woman, what's the point of being a woman?

- Me
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Fabienne
Joined: 16 Apr 2017, 20:06

09 Sep 2017, 12:23 #5

Striving for beauty is a perfectly human trait, however whereas most men want to be strong, hard and muscular as an ideal and women want to be attractive, soft and curvy, crossdreamers want the opposite form of beauty. My personal ideal aesthetic view of beauty is the female form and I would love to be that statuesque curvaceous woman with her natural gliding graceful movement. I don't want to strive for the hard muscular manly look, even though this is a far easier thing to achieve for my current physical form.
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April
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 16:32

09 Sep 2017, 21:37 #6

I believe most people want to be attractive. This is even true of males, but there is no question this seems to be far more of an issue for females. Female beauty is more precious because it fades, and usually rather dramatically so. Males seem to be a little bit more protected by age. Fortunately, we live in an age of photography, when beauty can be documented before it disappears, and that gives women a type of immortality. 
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stefwah
Joined: 03 Jun 2017, 11:28

14 Sep 2017, 11:20 #7

For me, beauty is what people see but it radiates outwards from the soul. It may be cliche but *shrug* whatevaaaaa!! As opposed to being pretty which is skin deep or attractiveness which is sexually driven. #pedanticmuch  😜

Attraction and prettiness fade, beauty grows. One of the most beautiful women I know turned 90 this year! Her skin is wrinkly, her body gaunt, she can no longer talk, but to me, I see her, she is so beautiful. 

The body has a strange way of mirroring the soul eventually. I've never met an evil spirited old person who didn't look physically twisted or sick. The opposite could be said of kinder spirits.

As much as I'd like to, I know I will never be a pretty or attractive woman, but I see lots of beautiful trans women who aren't either. They inspire me. I find that has its own kind of magic and power.
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oreb
Joined: 14 May 2017, 21:32

16 Sep 2017, 13:41 #8

Yeah, sexual allure and magic are deeply intertwined.
Mmm, I dont't know. I guess in my case I am in fact just like my mother. For me it's lightness over power, freedom over presence. I'd rather fall through the cracks than own any space. Next moment I'm in front of your face and I steal a smile from you.  
I was watching some interviews by Gemma Whelan. That's the kind of woman I would like to be. I don't know if I you would call her glamorous. 
I didn't break the words! I am the words!!
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Jen
Joined: 18 Nov 2015, 05:33

17 Sep 2017, 03:41 #9

Monique wrote: Wanting to be glamourous is part of my desire to be a woman. Or is it the other way around? I want to be a woman so I can be glamourous? I couldn't tell. Wanting to be beautiful and wanting to be a woman is the same thing for me.

I'm with Deborah Kate on this. The way you want to be beautiful is your inner kind of femininity shining through. Neither is beauty significant because it can be exchanged into something else, say, power. Beauty is an absolute value unto itself. Beauty is an idea. Plato even held it to be one of the three highest ideas (beauty, truth and the good). Asking the meaning of beauty is like asking the meaning of pleasure, to which it is closely related. It's pointless.

As a matter of fact, I'd trade in power for feminine beauty in a heartbeat if I could. I don't mind being a slave, not in the slightest actually, as long as I can be a ravishing creature in a gilded cage, wallowing in pleasure. If you think like this you're probably a bad, naughty and nasty crossdreamer.

We live in an imperfect universe where beauty is lacking and we cannot escape the less than perfect outer shells of ourselves. And because far from all women are as beautiful as they deserve, that's where things like "questioning the rightness" of wanting to be beautiful originate. But that's just this physical universe. In other worlds that are spiritual in nature, everyone can be as beautiful as they want to and feel like. If for no other reason, because over there, they say there is no difference between the inner and outer, between spirit and phenomena. It's all one "substance" (to speak scholastically).

Which is not to say such worlds don't differ from each other. For instance, in my paradise, where my soul belongs, there are no puffy cloud angels. It's a much too dark and iradescent midnight blue for that; it's a place of maternal excess, of orgiastic pleasure and decadent lustful perversity, of evil beauty and a warm, loving evil good.
I always thought it was the feminine man that beautified the world: glitter, lights, powder, colors, etc.  Oh yeah, fashion, fashion, fashion, lace,machines that make lace....sought after fashion designers, gay as these guys are.  
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