Crossdreamers and Estrogen Use

A place to discuss personal experiences with crossdreaming
Cheryl Sussex
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 10:51

24 Dec 2015, 20:58 #11

Emmasweet wrote:
Dear Cheryl,

I'd like to thank you for being so open about yourself and your journey. You're very pretty, by the way! I haven't really contemplated HRT partly because I am certain that would wreck my marriage but also because I hope that therapy and acceptance of myself will be sufficient. I also don't trust my judgment in that I can imagine feeling totally amazing on estrogen and would have to take it for a long time to know if that euphoria lasts. I admire your openness about your exploration and especially your finding and accepting where you are in the world. Fantastic!

Hugs,

Emma
Thank you Emma for the kind words.

Yes trying the self acceptance and therapy route is a good and sensible idea. There are many other routes one can take besides taking estrogens as even with a very low dose you are changing yourself only much more slowly. The euphoria is addictive and keeps you on the estrogen. I also found that the initial start of 25mg worked well for me. After 6 months the theraputic effect was not as strong. Going to the 50mg gave me back the euphoria. The 50mg dose kept the euphoria going for about three years and then worse off. This meant that I needed to jump up to the 100mg dose which I did not do. Things were running ahead of themselves. I needed to try and stop myself as I was pushing boundries. There are many trans out there who start low for a pure management of trans feelings only to find they up the ante over a few years and then before they know it they are women. I was having problems passing as a male when trying to, which was rather bizarre. I really did want to go further but where would I end up???

It may be of interest to others out there that 100mg of 5HTP also had very similar calming effects for me as far as my personal crossdreaming. This does not work for everyone but I did find it an alternative to estrogen when I came off. I found out this by accident due to my interest in lucid dreaming. 5HTP is supposed to supress REM sleep helping give you more intense dreams at the end of the night. Vitamin B6 100mg also has the same effect for dreaming an hour before bed but far cheaper.

Happy Christmas Everyone!!!
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Orlanda
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 13:02

27 Dec 2015, 18:17 #12

Thanks, Cheryl.

At what stage did your body start changing?

And you wrote you used 25 mg and 50 mg patches. I assume you meant micrograms (µg or mcg), not milligrams.
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Cheryl Sussex
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 10:51

28 Dec 2015, 17:26 #13

The estrogen was Estroderm MX25 and later MX50 see
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/medicine/24073 for more info.

The initial changes were peace of mind which occured within a few days. The physical changes were slow, but then one day all the changes added up together and you then notice it as a whole. Six months I would say.
 
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Orlanda
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 13:02

28 Dec 2015, 20:36 #14

Cheryl Sussex wrote:
The estrogen was Estroderm MX25 and later MX50 see
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/medicine/24073 for more info.


 
That's what I thought: 25 or 50 micrograms (µg or mcg) per day.
Cheryl Sussex wrote:
The physical changes were slow, but then one day all the changes added up together and you then notice it as a whole. Six months I would say.
Even with such a small dosage? Astonishing!
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Cheryl Sussex
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 10:51

29 Dec 2015, 14:31 #15

I am in the process of doing a follow up posting which will go into greater details regarding sexuality changes etc. 
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Orlanda
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 13:02

29 Dec 2015, 19:15 #16

Looking forward to it.
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Sean
Joined: 20 Nov 2015, 02:18

30 Dec 2015, 02:01 #17

I thnk that you look quite pretty.
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Vanny
Joined: 04 May 2016, 18:48

04 May 2016, 18:53 #18

Hey Cheryl,

I´m 26 years old and since i was 12 or 13 i was interested in trying on girls clothes. I was a boy doing boy stuff like Snowboarding and play soccer daily and pranking people but in secret i wore girls clothing from time to time. This never changed and now I am 26. I also got some hands on birthcontrol Pills and used some but only for a week or two since i was a little frightened about their side effects. One time i shaved my beard and put some make up on and was shocked how feminin i can look. Here and there I want to be a boy and do boy things! and other times I want to be a Girl badly! for the sexual part i already like playing with the nipples better than with the penis but when i masturbate the desire for beeing a girl dissapears for a half a day but i comes back, then i look a girls and think "wow they are stunning" but it is in a way that i want to have that body and looks! I want to get my hands on some hormone patches like u did and use them for a month and see what it will do with me. What do you think? Do I sound like I live in the wrong body? I also was born with only one testicle, may that be a reason? do i have less testosterone? I know you are not a doctor but u might have some advice. I am also affraid I am too old with 26 for going on hormone therapy if i really wanted to!?

Best wishes
Joey
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Cheryl Sussex
Joined: 17 Nov 2015, 10:51

05 May 2016, 10:02 #19

Vanny wrote:
Hey Cheryl,

I´m 26 years old and since i was 12 or 13 i was interested in trying on girls clothes. I was a boy doing boy stuff like Snowboarding and play soccer daily and pranking people but in secret i wore girls clothing from time to time. This never changed and now I am 26. I also got some hands on birthcontrol Pills and used some but only for a week or two since i was a little frightened about their side effects. One time i shaved my beard and put some make up on and was shocked how feminin i can look. Here and there I want to be a boy and do boy things! and other times I want to be a Girl badly! for the sexual part i already like playing with the nipples better than with the penis but when i masturbate the desire for beeing a girl dissapears for a half a day but i comes back, then i look a girls and think "wow they are stunning" but it is in a way that i want to have that body and looks! I want to get my hands on some hormone patches like u did and use them for a month and see what it will do with me. What do you think? Do I sound like I live in the wrong body? I also was born with only one testicle, may that be a reason? do i have less testosterone? I know you are not a doctor but u might have some advice. I am also affraid I am too old with 26 for going on hormone therapy if i really wanted to!?

Best wishes
Joey
Dear Joey
I would not have thought only having one testicle would effect your T levels as it is probably used to doing the work of two. It is best to do the hormone thing via the correct channels, so you can have blood test etc etc. It all comes down to what you want to do about your situation. You'll also have to bear in mind that as you age the crossdreaming thoughts may become worse, as they did with me. If things are getting bad the best thing to do is to seek some form of help and the help you'll get depends upon what services are available in your area. Over here in the UK I saw and paid for a private doctor to help. 
Cheryl x
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Julietg
Joined: 02 Aug 2017, 07:11

03 Aug 2017, 17:39 #20

Hi Cheryl

May I say you look beautiful,

I too am on low dose E after wrangling for many years and expect an off on pattern

Thank you for posting here

Julie
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