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colddigger
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January 24th, 2012, 8:10 am #1

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01 ... 23020.html

Since when did the Russians send a probe down to the Venusian surface is what I wanna know. Is it odd that the biggest issue I have with this is the use of the word scorpion and not scorpion-like?

Personally I'm curious where this supposed video would be found :P
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January 24th, 2012, 8:19 am #2

Since 1970, though they had been sending probes since 1961. Though they were part of the USSR at the time.
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January 24th, 2012, 1:41 pm #3

Has anyone else noticed that the two photos are of different places? The rocks and positions of the probes legs are different. There's no way of telling if the object (It looks like a sea slug! :P ) has moved or if there are two of them. Still, life on Venus would be pretty cool.

EDIT: And then this happened. Ah, well.
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January 24th, 2012, 1:51 pm #4

I just read another article on this photo. The thing's a lens cap.
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January 24th, 2012, 7:39 pm #5

colddigger wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01 ... 23020.html

Since when did the Russians send a probe down to the Venusian surface is what I wanna know.
Never heard of Venera? Putting a man on the moon is a great accomplishment, but in my opinion making a robot that survived Venus this long, operational or not, is a somewhat greater example of humanity's potential.

The article is a joke. Morphological changes prove that it's a living thing? On the surface of a world covered in molten rock and sulfuric acid rain falling from an atmosphere as thick as pea soup? Great logic there, I'm sure nothing moves on Venus. I mean it's not Earth so that means it must be static and unchanging like the moon right? I'm not opposed to the idea of life on Venus, even on the surface of the planet (even though I think it's far more likely that it exists in the more temperate upper atmosphere). I do doubt the existence of a living multicellular blob wriggling around, especially one caught on grain film by a Soviet robot from the 1980's that operated for a whole hour before being fried.

I hope someday soon we send more probes to Venus. I'm of the opinion our technology is advanced enough to send a full on rover to the surface.
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January 24th, 2012, 8:09 pm #6

No, I never heard of these Venus probes, I never put a whole lot of research into whether or not we hadn't since I always figured that one simply couldn't function for very long on the surface..

It's no doubt in my mind that it's not true, that's why I want the video that they refer to.
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January 24th, 2012, 8:42 pm #7

Come on! How could you not know about the Soviet Venus program? It's famous! :P

Acid rain never falls to the surface on Venus. It's too hot, it evaporates before it hits the ground. The ground in the pictures is clearly not molten, and while the density of the Venusian atmosphere is much higher than that of Earth, it isn't the density of pea soup.

It doesn't mean things couldn't move though, if there was enough wind it could displace objects.

If the guy really thinks the lens cap is an organism, he's nuts. It's blatantly obvious that it is part of the spacecraft.

Also I have never seen any scorpions or anything of that sort in these pictures. Where are the scorpions supposed to be?

Still, Venus surface life in an interesting proposition... but a biochemically dubious one.
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January 24th, 2012, 8:43 pm #8

Come on! How could you not know about the Soviet Venus program? It's famous! :P

Acid rain never falls to the surface on Venus. It's too hot, it evaporates before it hits the ground. The ground in the pictures is clearly not molten, and while the density of the Venusian atmosphere is much higher than that of Earth, it isn't the density of pea soup.

It doesn't mean things couldn't move though, if there was enough wind it could displace objects.

If the guy really thinks the lens cap is an organism, he's nuts. It's blatantly obvious that it is part of the spacecraft.

Also, where are these scorpions even supposed to be?

Still, Venus surface life in an interesting proposition... but a biochemically dubious one.
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January 24th, 2012, 8:54 pm #9

I dunno, I'm as surprised as you are at my ignorance of it! For him to claim that there's a scorpion, well, in my opinion the photos are not clear enough for the claim..

But considering that we had sent probes to Venus makes colonizing the place seem more realistic to me..
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January 24th, 2012, 9:51 pm #10

wrote:But considering that we had sent probes to Venus makes colonizing the place seem more realistic to me..


No reason to colonise Venus, and colonising the surface would be extremely difficult (just building a probe to withstand the conditions for a considerable amount of time is difficult). The cloud-tops are at least more hospitable (aside from the sulfuric acid).
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