Who beats the good teams?

Who beats the good teams?

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July 10th, 2018, 5:34 am #1

Saturdays down South compiled a list of how each SEC team did against teams that FINISHED the season ranked in the top 25.  After that he did the same for some prominent national teams.   This creates 2 lists and poor organization, but the value is still there.

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  • Alabama — 18-5 (.783)
  • Georgia — 9-6 (.600)
  • Ole Miss — 8-11 (.421)
  • Auburn — 7-14 (.333)
  • LSU — 6-12 (.333)
  • Arkansas — 5-15 (.250)
  • Florida — 4-12 (.250)
  • Tennessee — 4-12 (.250)
  • South Carolina — 4-12 (.250)
  • Mississippi State — 3-12 (.200)
  • Texas A&M — 2-14 (.125)
  • Kentucky — 1-12 (.078)
  • Mizzou — 0-10 (.000)
  • Vanderbilt — 0-11 (.000)
The rest
  • Ohio State — 14-4 (.778)
  • Clemson — 14-6 (.700)
  • Oklahoma — 10-7 (.589)
  • Wisconsin — 8-9 (.471)
  • Florida State — 7-8 (.467)
  • Michigan State — 8-10 (.444)
  • TCU — 6-8 (.429)
  • Northwestern — 6-9 (.400)
  • Stanford — 6-10 (.375)
  • Notre Dame — 6-11 (.353)
  • USC — 7-13 (.350)
  • Oregon — 7-14 (.333)
  • Penn State — 6-12 (.333)
  • UCLA — 5-12 (.294)
  • Oklahoma State — 4-10 (.290)
  • Miami (FL) — 4-11 (.267)
  • Virginia Tech — 2-7 (.222)
  • Washington — 3-11 (.214)
  • Texas — 2-14 (.125)
  • Louisville — 1-10 (.090)
  • West Virginia — 1-13 (.071)
  • NC State — 0-9 (.000)
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July 10th, 2018, 5:36 am #2

So, getting beat by Vandy is the true measure that your season is over.  Nobody trips up on them and then wins out.

NC State sucks.

What about Northwestern?  6-9 against teams that end up being pretty good.
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July 10th, 2018, 5:41 am #3

I expected Alabama to be at the top , but I was surprised that the Buckeyes were right below them  … Also, I noticed , after Alabama and Georgia, there was noticeable drop off , in winning percentage, by the rest of the SEC … 
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July 10th, 2018, 6:32 am #4

I still think Bama is now consuming all the oxygen in the room.  That is the reason the rest of the SEC has dropped.  The best thing that ever happened to the rest of us in the SEC was Bama going on probation during the BCS era.  During that time you had 5 different SEC schools win national championships in just a 13 year period from '98 to 2010.  Bama went on to win a few more in '11 and '12 but the SEC was considerably deeper and more competitive with the elephant out of the room.
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July 10th, 2018, 7:28 am #5

is Bama taking the good recruits from the rest of the SEC ?
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July 10th, 2018, 7:29 am #6

or is it Saban's coaching  ...
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July 10th, 2018, 4:05 pm #7

Saban is a great coach, but having more talent than anyone else is what makes it all work.
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July 11th, 2018, 3:32 am #8

Does Alabama get more talent because of their name, or because Saban is a better recruiter than everyone else ?
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July 11th, 2018, 4:17 am #9

Saban had to get them there and deserves the credit but now he is just on cruise control.   He is still a great coach but with so many championships now he truly gets the pick of the litter and the rest of us in the SEC have to make due with the rest.  
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July 11th, 2018, 4:43 am #10

Not sure how far this goes back but Clemson losses I guess would be:

#1 Alabama 2017
#1 Alabama 2015
#13 Georgia 2014
#3 FSU 2014
#12 GT 2014

#1 FSU 2013
#4 SC 2013

So if last 5 years they have 1 too many losses for Clemson...if it is last 6 they have 1 too few. All Clemson's have been Top 15 and 5 of last 7 have finished top 5

Pitt was ranked prior to Bowl Game in 2016 so maybe that is the 6th they are counting
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July 11th, 2018, 7:45 am #11

wow … how the hell did SCAR finish 4th in the nation …. that must have been an off year for college football ... you folks in the SEC couldn't give SCAR , at least 3 or 4 losses?
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July 11th, 2018, 7:51 am #12

Kentuckytoo wrote: wow … how the hell did SCAR finish 4th in the nation …. that must have been an off year for college football ... you folks in the SEC couldn't give SCAR , at least 3 or 4 losses?
They were 11-2 that season with losses to UT and Georgia.

They actually beat some decent teams too...
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that was the perfect storm when they had Ellis Johnson as DC, Craig Fitzgerald as S&C coach (now with Texans), Brad Lawing as DL coach and their state hot beds had some talent. Those defenses were nasty
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July 11th, 2018, 8:12 am #13

wasn't it 2011 that SCAR went 11-2 ?
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July 11th, 2018, 8:47 am #14

Kentuckytoo wrote: wasn't it 2011 that SCAR went 11-2 ?
Actually 2011, 2012, and 2013
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July 11th, 2018, 10:13 am #15

nmerritt11 wrote:

Actually 2011, 2012, and 2013
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July 11th, 2018, 1:20 pm #16

33 -6 not bad ….
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July 12th, 2018, 5:28 am #17

Kentuckytoo wrote: 33 -6 not bad ….
Spurrier gave them best 5 years of their football history and no championships of any kind.

1 conference title in history and that was before Muschamp was born. They were independent for a bit though. And they act like they are on the same level as Clemson

It’s quite funny
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July 12th, 2018, 5:37 am #18

I predict things are going to go south quickly for the Gamecocks.  UGA is back.  Florida will be better and hopefully Tennessee will start climbing out of the gutter.  Spurs was able to take advantage of a period when the big 3 of the East were historically down but once the normal order returns the Cocks will be fighting for 4th in the SEC East every year just like God intended.  
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July 12th, 2018, 6:09 am #19

I just can’t stand Muschamp. Spurrier and Dabo got along very well...hell Spurrier invited him to his Hall of Fame induction.

Dabo does not like Muschamp. After the comment he made about Davis wife flirting with him Cris Ard from rivals said Dabo would remember that in November. That was the beat down where Muschamp cried because Dabo did a senior curtain call. He constantly bashed Dabo on the trail from what I’ve been told.

He really needs to shut his mouth until he gets competitive. They are building classes in Georgia and Clemson left overs. They brag about their WRs but all would be at Clemson if Clemson pushed for them except Deebo who Clemson never got involved with.

Edwards: recruited by acme son as a safety. Was not a WR take
Ortre: Clemson legacy who wanted to be a Tiger but Clemson took Tee Higgins over him.
She: wanted to commit but Clemson was waiting on Rodgers

The talent gap is growing. They are putting together decent classes but not on same level as Georgia and Clemson

Now Clemson has Trevor Lawrence so the win streak could easily hit 8 before he leaves
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July 12th, 2018, 9:32 am #20

nmerritt11 wrote:

Spurrier gave them best 5 years of their football history and no championships of any kind.

1 conference title in history and that was before Muschamp was born. They were independent for a bit though. And they act like they are on the same level as Clemson

It’s quite funny
SCAR and Clemson have split the last 10 games.  Sounds about even to me.
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July 12th, 2018, 10:46 am #21

brown dog wrote:
nmerritt11 wrote:

Spurrier gave them best 5 years of their football history and no championships of any kind.

1 conference title in history and that was before Muschamp was born. They were independent for a bit though. And they act like they are on the same level as Clemson

It’s quite funny
SCAR and Clemson have split the last 10 games.  Sounds about even to me.
10/10 troll
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July 12th, 2018, 12:47 pm #22

I'm a 2 time Letterman...
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July 13th, 2018, 8:13 am #23

brown dog wrote: I'm a 2 time Letterman...
I remember them … didn't they sing “Goin’ Out Of My Head / Can’t Take My Eyes Off You”. ????
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July 13th, 2018, 9:05 am #24

I believe you are thinking of the trolls.
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July 13th, 2018, 10:12 am #25

I guess I need to get the " kinks " out of my memory ...
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