Talent on each SEC team

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5:41 PM - May 07, 2018 #1

A UGA fan compiled a list showing the amount of talent at each SEC school:
Currently enrolled + summer inbounds:
1. Alabama (83 rated players avg. 3.93 stars): 12 5-stars, 54 4-stars, 16 3-stars, 1 2-star
2. UGA (84 rated players avg. 3.86 stars): 13 5-stars, 47 4-stars, 23 3-stars, 1 2-star [note: doesn’t include Chigbu or Gibbs]
3. LSU (77 rated players avg. 3.65 stars): 4 5-stars, 44 4-stars, 27 3-stars, 2 2-stars
4. Auburn (84 rated players avg. 3.58 stars): 2 5-stars, 46 4-stars, 35 3-stars, 1 2-star
5. Texas A&M (88 rated players avg. 3.38 stars): 0 5-stars, 35 4-stars, 51 3-stars, 2 2-stars [note: 1 or more rated players is a walk-on not on scholarship]
6. UT (86 rated players avg. 3.36 stars): 2 5-stars, 32 4-stars, 47 3-stars, 5 2-stars [note: 1 or more rated players is a walk-on not on scholarship]
7. UF (74 rated players avg. 3.32 stars): 2 5-stars, 25 4-stars, 43 3-stars, 3 2-stars, 1 1-star
8. USC (79 rated players avg. 3.23 stars): 0 5-stars, 23 4-stars, 51 3-stars, 5 2-stars
9. Ole Miss (80 rated players avg. 3.19 stars): 2 5-stars, 17 4-stars, 55 3-stars, 6 2-stars
10. Mississippi State (88 rated players avg. 3.16 stars): 1 5-star, 19 4-stars, 61 3-stars, 7 2-stars [note: several rated players are walk-ons]
11. Arkansas (92 rated players avg. 3.13 stars): 1 5-star, 17 4-stars, 67 3-stars, 7 2-stars [note: several rated players are walk-ons]
12. UK (78 rated players avg. 3.12 stars): 0 5-stars, 13 4-stars, 63 3-stars, 1 2-star
13. Mizzou (75 rated players avg. 3.08 stars): 1 5-star, 6 4-stars, 66 3-stars, 2 2-stars
14. Vandy (84 rated players avg. 2.99 stars): 0 5-stars, 8 4-stars, 67 3-stars, 9 2-stars
https://blutarsky.wordpress.com/2018/05 ... ooks-like/

Biggest thing that jumped out at me after seeing Bama still loaded after the draft is that UF only has 74 rated players.
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4:18 AM - May 08, 2018 #2

This is a little encouraging to me.  Tennessee is not too far down the list so maybe with the right coaches we turn around a little faster than expected.  I still think 7-5 is our ceiling next season but I would consider that a great first season all things considered.  
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4:49 AM - May 08, 2018 #3

Haven't followed it too close lately, but I'd bet UF is close to only having 74 scholarship players right now. Last year's credit card fraud case wiped out several, plus the change in offense has lost a few to transfers.

UF has been low on scholarship players for a few years now. Every year it's something. Lack of stability just kills you over time.
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5:09 AM - May 08, 2018 #4

I forgot about the credit card fraud.  That was 11 players and only a few came back.  I bet we see some sloppy tackling from UF because they can't practice as hard as they'd like.  I remember UGA had 72 players at the beginning of the season once and it was a mess.  I need to try and figure out the year, because Grantham might have been the DC.
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5:11 AM - May 08, 2018 #5

DocVOLiday wrote: This is a little encouraging to me.  Tennessee is not too far down the list so maybe with the right coaches we turn around a little faster than expected.  I still think 7-5 is our ceiling next season but I would consider that a great first season all things considered.  
UT just needs a solid OL and a decent QB on offense.  It's really that simple.  There is enough talent to be competitive.  I don't know enough about the D to say, but that's the area where Pruitt should be able to manage it.
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12:38 PM - May 08, 2018 #6

Florida is confident they'll have an elite defense.

The question is quarterback. That's it. If they get good qb play, they're going to be a dangerous team.
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1:32 PM - May 08, 2018 #7

I read your post, read Fan's QB thread, leave the forum, and run right into this from an anonymous Gator player:
“That first year [2015] it really wasn’t noticeable because a lot of our players carried over from coach Muschamp, but starting in that second year, I was as heavy, but I wasn’t as strong. When we played teams like Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, we just looked small. I’m a pretty good size for my position, but I remember standing next to Lorenzo Carter and Roquan Smith [of Georgia] and saying to myself, ‘Damn, these are some big ass dudes. What are they feeding them over there?’ I remember when Roquan visited us in the summer when he was being recruited and he was skinny, and now he looked sculpted. You shouldn’t be at Florida and feel intimidated by looking at other SEC players.”
Damn.  That speaks to how badly McElwain understood the SEC.  

Here is the rest of it:  https://insidethegators.com/s/193/anony ... facilities
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3:25 PM - May 08, 2018 #8

It was an open secret that the S&C program was a joke.

McElwain failed on most every level.

Ever known a guy that sorta checked out midway through his career? He is the poster boy for that guy.
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5:16 AM - May 09, 2018 #9

The player mentioned they started doing a lot of stretching instead of lifting.  lol.  Stretching is good, but you gotta be strong.

Yeah, McElwain just went sideways.  His last season reminded me a lot of Richt's last season.  It's like they knew it was all going to shit, there was nothing they could do, so they showed up in JAX to end it.  I haven't seen an offensive gameplan out of the Gators that was that bad since Charlie Weis was the OC.  Remember when he had Brantley run option plays and UGA just gang tackled the RB since Brantley couldn't run?  lol.  

Anyway, I doubt UGA will have it that easy in the future.
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7:23 AM - May 09, 2018 #10

Mullen will have them fit and playing hard, anyway.

The talent gap is there, but some luck with injuries, good coaching and a renewed enthusiasm from the players, and it could be a good season.
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7:33 AM - May 09, 2018 #11

Who do you see getting back first, FSU or UF?
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10:49 AM - May 09, 2018 #12

DocVOLiday wrote: Who do you see getting back first, FSU or UF?
Playoffs?  I'm not sure, but my hunch is FSU because they have an easier path.  Both teams have a solid team and coaching staffs that I think can get it done.
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11:10 AM - May 09, 2018 #13

I think FSU has more depth than Florida at this moment too so it seems like they should bounce back more quickly.  
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1:41 PM - May 09, 2018 #14

Easier path and more talent, FSU.

Better coaching, I'd say UF.

FSU will probably be rained ahead of UF for the next year or so.
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3:09 PM - May 09, 2018 #15

Which team wins the rivalry game the next 3 years?
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5:22 PM - May 09, 2018 #16

Tough to guess.

FSU is going to overhaul their offense. That's not usually a pain free experience. But so is Florida.

I think UF will have a very solid run game and a very good defense next season, and I guess I'd bet that way.

UF 2, FSU 1.
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5:18 AM - May 10, 2018 #17

Something I didn't realize is that Mullen is inheriting a 5 game losing streak to the Noles.  
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5:19 AM - May 10, 2018 #18

btw, the next 3 season I think UGA goes...

2-1 against the Gators
3-0 against Tennessee

I can't decide about Auburn
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5:42 AM - May 10, 2018 #19

I am fine with 3-0 against the Vols.  You have serious talent coming in and a lot to build on.  Tennessee in all honesty is probably 5 or 6 years away from being a serious competitor if Pruitt works out.  We essentially lost this year's class to the weird coaching search.  
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8:58 AM - May 10, 2018 #20

I'm pretty sure Pruitt will turn things around in 3-4 years, but I bet the next coach benefits.
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9:07 AM - May 10, 2018 #21

The next Vol coach will start off in good shape, most likely. I bet he'll do a bang up job getting talent up there.

It's hard to change the fortunes of a program quickly, and even harder in the sec.
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