Butch Jones in Tuscaloosa

Butch Jones in Tuscaloosa

Joined: October 3rd, 2013, 4:59 pm

February 26th, 2018, 7:12 am #1

The twitterverse has erupted with Butch Jones sightings in Tuscaloosa.  I still have not figured out how to post tweets here unfortunately.

Could he be Saban's new champions of life coach?
"Gentlemen, touchdowns follow blocking as sure night follows day" -Gen Neyland
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February 26th, 2018, 7:23 am #2

To post tweets is simple.

Open Tweet, click on the down arrow in right hand corner of the tweet, copy link to tweet, paste it here

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February 26th, 2018, 7:37 am #3

THanks.  That is great.  
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February 26th, 2018, 7:44 am #4

One thing about Saban, he never fails to reach out to someone and gain any knowledge he can from them.  Butch is obviously at a low point and wants to be associated with Saban, and Saban is smart to pick his mind.  We saw the same thing with Hugh Freeze.

So, what does the Volnation think he told Saban?
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February 26th, 2018, 8:05 am #5

Hopefully everything he knows.  Give Saban the clipboard and the trash can, please!
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February 26th, 2018, 8:55 am #6

DocVOLiday wrote: Hopefully everything he knows.  Give Saban the clipboard and the trash can, please!
lol.  the fucking trash can.  I had forgotten about the trash can.  Tennessee had a bad run of coaches who loved fake juice.  I'll miss Dooley and Butch.
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February 26th, 2018, 11:04 am #7

I will be honest, if Saban does hire Butch as another rehab project I will be surprised.  Hiring the other rejects like Lane, Briles, etc makes sense because they actually are good coaches just with personality flaws.  Butch did not show me anything in the last five years other than being an enthusiastic recruiter.  He did not develop players.  He definitely did not recognize talent burying the current NFL rookie of the year Alvin Kamara behind Jalen Hurd.   His game day decisions were terrible.   I just don't know what he brings to the table at this point.  
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February 27th, 2018, 5:07 am #8

Maybe Saban wants Butch to develop a part of The Process geared towards Champions of Life and players with 5 star hearts.  
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February 27th, 2018, 5:49 am #9

Now it is a little more official than twitter rumors:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... h-alabama/

According to Matt Zenitz of AL.com, former Tennessee coach Butch Jones is in talks with Alabama to join the staff as an offensive analyst in an off-the-field role. Zenitz reports that Jones and Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban have met in person and the former Volunteers head man has been in Tuscaloosa recently.
Saban should start charging at this point.  It is like he is running a postgraduate PHD program down there.  
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February 27th, 2018, 5:56 am #10

I am starting to wonder if Saban is getting a little lazy and complacent honestly.

Smart to Pruitt made sense but now Lupoi who has no DC experience calling plays? Seems like a downgrade on the surface to me
The hiring of Locksley as OC seems like a downgrade from his previous OC's as well.

He did make a great DL coaching hire. Maybe the best in the business.

The thing is...with their talent pretty much anyone can look at least decent calling the plays
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February 27th, 2018, 7:49 am #11

It has to be hard losing your assistant coaches year in and year out.  Maybe it is a testament to his coaching he has been so successful with so many assistant coaches.  The one coach Saban should be talking to however is Dabo.  Dabo has a way to make assistant coaches very loyal.  I know Venebles is making really good money but he could make more as a head coach somewhere and his name often comes up for vacancies.  Somehow Dabo keeps them home. 
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February 27th, 2018, 7:57 am #12

DocVOLiday wrote: It has to be hard losing your assistant coaches year in and year out.  Maybe it is a testament to his coaching he has been so successful with so many assistant coaches.  The one coach Saban should be talking to however is Dabo.  Dabo has a way to make assistant coaches very loyal.  I know Venebles is making really good money but he could make more as a head coach somewhere and his name often comes up for vacancies.  Somehow Dabo keeps them home. 
Venables is now making over $2m which is just insane but he’s earned every penny.
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February 27th, 2018, 8:23 am #13

DocVOLiday wrote: It has to be hard losing your assistant coaches year in and year out.  Maybe it is a testament to his coaching he has been so successful with so many assistant coaches.  The one coach Saban should be talking to however is Dabo.  Dabo has a way to make assistant coaches very loyal.  I know Venebles is making really good money but he could make more as a head coach somewhere and his name often comes up for vacancies.  Somehow Dabo keeps them home. 
Here is a bit on Saban's turnover:
Tosh Lupoi is the only assistant coach remaining from the Alabama staff that won the national championship in 2016. Since then Saban has brought in nine new assistants, in part to replace four assistants who left for jobs as head coaches: Smart, Jeremy Pruitt, Lane Kiffin and Mario Cristobal.
That has to be impacting recruiting.  There is no way around it.

As for keeping them, what could he have done to keep them?  They all left for better jobs, well except for Kiffin.  The reality is every Southern team wants to hire a Saban protege because he is so successful.  If Dabo is thought of in the same light, then Venerables will be a hot commodity for a HC job.  Right now his name is coming up for the B level jobs.

btw, I've mentioned this before, but watch Bobo out here at Colorado State.  He is a pro style guy that can recruit and he put up crazy numbers his last few years at UGA.  I know Saban and Smart both would pay whatever to have him as OC.  In Bobo's last year at UGA the team averaged 41 points per game (8th best in the country) with Hutson Mason as QB.
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February 28th, 2018, 1:35 am #14

brown dog wrote:
DocVOLiday wrote: It has to be hard losing your assistant coaches year in and year out.  Maybe it is a testament to his coaching he has been so successful with so many assistant coaches.  The one coach Saban should be talking to however is Dabo.  Dabo has a way to make assistant coaches very loyal.  I know Venebles is making really good money but he could make more as a head coach somewhere and his name often comes up for vacancies.  Somehow Dabo keeps them home. 
Here is a bit on Saban's turnover:
Tosh Lupoi is the only assistant coach remaining from the Alabama staff that won the national championship in 2016. Since then Saban has brought in nine new assistants, in part to replace four assistants who left for jobs as head coaches: Smart, Jeremy Pruitt, Lane Kiffin and Mario Cristobal.
That has to be impacting recruiting.  There is no way around it.

As for keeping them, what could he have done to keep them?  They all left for better jobs, well except for Kiffin.  The reality is every Southern team wants to hire a Saban protege because he is so successful.  If Dabo is thought of in the same light, then Venerables will be a hot commodity for a HC job.  Right now his name is coming up for the B level jobs.

btw, I've mentioned this before, but watch Bobo out here at Colorado State.  He is a pro style guy that can recruit and he put up crazy numbers his last few years at UGA.  I know Saban and Smart both would pay whatever to have him as OC.  In Bobo's last year at UGA the team averaged 41 points per game (8th best in the country) with Hutson Mason as QB.
From what I am told Venables could have had Tennessee job but took his name out of the hat. He’s only leaving for a perfect situation for him. He enjoys being an assistant and he is fine not being a head coach.

The rest of the staff is pretty young but UCF had a lot of interest in Tony Elliott. Tony didn’t feel he was ready and was concerned about his ability to put together a staff. Both Tony and Jeff Scott will be head coaches in time.

Dabo’s coaching tree will begin soon enough.
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