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What? Nuh-uh, that's a stranger you see/hear in the bathroom I thought.Dreamstar wrote:I'm a bit pissed off the Villa wasn't mentioned. I know it's optional, but I'm pretty sure everyone bought that thing 'cause if you go into the bathroom you can hear Cloud taking a bath and then he re-does his hair in the mirror. *squealz* 'cause it's big and nice!
Nope, if you go into the bathroom AFTER YOU BUY THE PLACE! You can have Cloud take a bath. XDCalilily wrote:What? Nuh-uh, that's a stranger you see/hear in the bathroom I thought.Dreamstar wrote:I'm a bit pissed off the Villa wasn't mentioned. I know it's optional, but I'm pretty sure everyone bought that thing 'cause if you go into the bathroom you can hear Cloud taking a bath and then he re-does his hair in the mirror. *squealz* 'cause it's big and nice!
Oh, I agree. She was only created as a girl to be by Cloud's side til the end:Anti-R wrote:I mean, replace Tifa with Barret and Advent Children's plot wouldn't be any different.
http://thelifestream.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11960&page=2 wrote:iWas the Aerith's shocking death scene also confirmed at that time?
Nomura: I suggested to Kitase about having either Aerith or Tifa die, and it was decided that we'd go in that direction.
iWere there two heroines from the outset?
Nomura: No, originally there was only Aerith, and Tifa was added as another heroine later. To make up for Aerith dying, we needed a heroine who would be by the hero's side until the end. Plus with Aerith's death, while there were characters in previous FF games who lost their lives, we wanted to try a different approach. By bringing out a 'sense of loss' with Aerith's death, we also wanted to portray the theme of FFVII which is 'life'.
No, I believe you there, cause I have witnessed it myself and it is annoying, but you can't really get through to people that won't listen, like I said it goes in one ear out the other, but there are cloti's that do share the clerith's views. I think they're contradicting themselves there, cause they're saying you "can't face the facts", while they themselves are refusing to know that there are possible solutions in the LT, my god what a world
[quote=Anastar]Well, believe it or not, I've heard Cloti's get mad when I say that the LT's up to personal interpretation, too. I can specify that I think Cloti is a [b]possible [/b]interpretation just like Clerith is a [b]possible [/b]interpretation, and they get mad because they say I'm refusing to face facts because Cloti is the only possible pairing and that it's canon that Cloud loves Tifa. >_<
That's what gets me - when they try to insist that the
[b]ONLY [/b]possible interpretation is that Cloud loves Tifa and when they try to pretend that it's [b]fact [/b]when it's not. They won't even say that it's their [b]opinion [/b]- they insist that it's fact.
IMO, that's just twisting what SE has said to us. Nomura has even blatantly said that other interpretations are possible:
-Tetsuya Nomura, FFVII AC Prologue Book [color=blue]Advent Children is a piece of work made by Japanese people. In Hollywood movies, I think there is a tendency where the meaning of all the scenes have to be expressed clearly but, this isnt something like that. [b]With our work, the viewer is free to decide how they interpret or enjoy it. The staff has their own answers to all the scenes in the movie such as the angel statue that makes an appearance many times. But, even if someone who has watched it interprets it differently, then that is just another answer. [/b]I guess comparing answers with friends is one of the ways you can enjoy the movie. I think AC is a movie that makes those who have watched it, want to talk about it with others. [/color]
I don't know how much more blatantly he could say that there's not just one way to interpret the story.
Old thread, but I wish this was canon. I would love for places like TLS be like " THEY LIVE TOGETHER AND HAVE TWO KIDS, THEY'RE CANON "Anti-R wrote:Pretty much.
I mean, replace Tifa with Barret and Advent Children's plot wouldn't be any different.
The screenshot could indicate that it's either version. But clotis claim the description is what "proves" it's the Highwind scene, not the picture.Anastar wrote:One thing that I've brought up to TLS and Tres Dias is the fact that the FTOIL page doesn't actually show the Highwind scene. If you look at the FTOIL page carefully, ALL of the scenes talked about on the page are shown in the screenshot above the description.
The screenshot on the FTOIL page for Cloud and Tifa is actually the morning after, not the Highwind Scene itself.
The HA and LA versions of the morning after are almost identical and there is absolutely NO hint that they may have had sex during that scene.
TLS chose to ignore this, but if you look at it carefully you'll see that the FTOIL page is talking about the morning after, not the Highwind Scene itself.
First, as I said above, the screenshot corresponds with the description for all other couples on the page.wrote:The screenshot could indicate that it's either version. But clotis claim the description is what "proves" it's the Highwind scene, not the picture.
Indeed, that is VERY interesting! You might want to start a separate thread about that page just to draw more attention to it. This is the first I've ever heard about it.wrote:It's from the same book as FTOIL (20th Anniversary Ultimania) and as you can see, despite FTOIL, this introductory page for FF "loves" excludes FFVII entirely.
* Squall and Rinoa
* Zidane and Garnet
* Tidus and Yuna
* FFI's unrequited love
* and one for XI (which I've never played)
It seems really odd that the staff who wrote this book would include Clerith/Cloti on FTOIL and then leave out the Final Fantasy series most successful game (FF7) from this section about love stories.
Couldn't agree with you more.wrote:I say a lot of people are betting a lot on a book that the creator's themselves had no part in--for an optional scene, that neither character recalls or acts like ever happened 3 years later. The Ultimania is what people call "baiting". It's there to get the $$$ from die-hards, but everyone knows they ultimately mean jack $hit, with maybe the exception of the 25thAU since it's the only one to be translated in other languages.