Pentagon Witness List

Research and investigation regarding what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11

Pentagon Witness List

onesliceshort
A Regular Jim Garrison
onesliceshort
A Regular Jim Garrison
Joined: April 29th, 2009, 10:11 pm

September 6th, 2012, 7:21 pm #1

I've attempted to place all alleged witnesses in the area of the Pentagon on 9/11 under the one roof.

The legwork and background investigation was done by CIT.

I've broken the list down alphabetically, with a summation at the end of each individual list.
There then follows a breakdown of the overall alleged witness pool.

1. Witness A Breakdown

2. Witness B Breakdown

3. Witness C Breakdown

4. Witness D Breakdown

5. Witness E-F Breakdown

6. Witness G-H Breakdown

7. Witness I-J Breakdown

8. Witness K-L Breakdown

9. Witness M-N Breakdown

10. Witness O-P Breakdown

11. Witness R Breakdown

12. Witness S Breakdown

13. Witness T-Z Breakdown


General Breakdown:

1. Overall Numbers

2. 41?

3. Contradictions

4. Media Disinfo, Misinfo, Embellishment and Bias

5. Physical Reaction

6. Connections and Control
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onesliceshort
A Regular Jim Garrison
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A Regular Jim Garrison
Joined: April 29th, 2009, 10:11 pm

September 6th, 2012, 7:22 pm #2

Witness A breakdown




Abshire, Marc

Source: Media 

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Air Force Lt. Col. Marc Abshire, 40, a speechwriter for Air Force Secretary James Roche, was working on several speeches this morning when he felt the blast of the explosion at the Pentagon. His office is on the D ring, near the eighth corridor, he said. "It shot me back in my chair. There was a huge blast. I could feel the air shock wave of it," Abshire said. "I didn't know exactly what it was."


Inside the Pentagon. Not a witness to the alleged impact.




Aman, George

Source: Center for Military History


"I thought it was going to hit this building here (Edit: ANC buildings). So I was just looking out here and I see this airplane coming down here and I thought it was coming, going to hit this building. And I said good God Almighty. So I'm just petrified. I'm looking. The plane flies right over the parking lot here...
When I seen he was kind of turning and gliding when he came across here, across the parking lot..."


http://www.thepentacon.com/neit419


Source: CIT interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs845qG6hv0

AMAN: ...I heard this loud (inaud) noise, man, I'm looking up in the air, and I see this plane just coming right at us. And I thought holy mackrell, they're going to smash right into the -- into our building!

[...]

AMAN: It was -- went, you know, right over -- over the, the parking lot.

RANKE: The parking lot of what?

AMAN: The parking lot right there by the -- by the, uh, maintenance complex.

RANKE: Oh okay, of Arlington Cemetery in front of the maintenance buildings, the parking lot.

AMAN: Yeah.

RANKE: So you're saying it was directly over the top of that?

AMAN: Yeah. Yeah.


RANKE: Now, let me ask you: Did you see it approach before that? Like, did you see it approach perhaps before the Navy Annex?

AMAN: Oh yeah. Well, right at about the Navy Annex is when I, you know, the noise was getting so loud, you know? And I was lookin. And right -- It came right over the top of the Navy Annex.

RANKE: Right over the top of it?

AMAN: Yeah. Directly right over it, you know? It came in and made it -- his approach that way. Like I say, I thought it was going to smash into our building right there.

RANKE: Okay, so it looked like it was headed towards the maintenance buildings there then.

AMAN: Right, right.

[...]

AMAN: ...by the time I seen it, you know, I -- I focused in on it coming in. I said Holy Christ, it's gonna hit us. And, then it went right over the parking lot. And then, Blammo, into the...

RANKE: Okay, well let me ask you this. You know where the Citgo gas staiton is, right?

AMAN: Yeah.

RANKE: Did it look like it was to the north or the south of the Citgo gas station.

AMAN: It was right in between -- in between the Citgo gas station and -- and the, the maintenance complex.

RANKE: Okay, so the north of the gas station.

AMAN: Right over the parking lot there.


Overhead of area with NOC witnessed flightpaths and Aman's POV:

http://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s360/Li...ness-Overhe.jpg





Anderson, Steve

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"I witnessed the jet hit the Pentagon on September 11. From my office on the 19th floor of the USA TODAY building in Arlington, Va., I have a view of Arlington Cemetery, Crystal City, the Pentagon, National Airport and the Potomac River. ... Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke. 
http://www.jmu.edu/alumni/tragedy%5Frespon...5Fmessages.html


This appeared on the internet almost a month after the event. My question is why such a graphic account from the Director of Communications of USA TODAY did not make it into any of the Gannett publications?

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2254603

And here:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums...c/806333/1/#new


- " I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon"

First off, he allegedly saw these details, particularly the "left" bank he described and the wing "drug...along the ground" from here?

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3769/gannetview.png

Secondly, barring the fact that the lawn wasn't marked, at what point in the official time of 0.4 seconds it allegedly took to cross the lawn did he garner these details?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...tanimxox1rt.gif

Claims to have witnessed alleged impact but the claims by the Arlington Fire Station of the fire alarm being set off in his building before the explosion needs to be resolved.

And "heard jet engines pass our building"? This was allegedly during the national groundstop at all airports.

Finally, his account appeared online weeks after the event on a university website yet this media executive for USA Today wasn't quoted once by his own publication in the days afterwards? Why?





Anderson, Ted

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Lt. Col. Ted Anderson : "We ran to the end of our building, turned left and saw nothing but huge, billowing black smoke, and a brilliant, brilliant explosion of fire." (...) One of the Pentagon's two fire trucks was parked only 50 feet from the crash site, and it was "totally engulfed in flames," Anderson says.


Arrived after the event. Not a witness to the alleged impact.




Anlauf, Deb & Jeff

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"Watching from floor 14 window of her hotel room in the Sheraton Hotel"


"Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window. You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. Then it shot straight across from where we are.."


This is a shot (zoomed in) from the 14th floor:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...ba62d8af3d3.jpg


Analauf is a possible "over the Navy Annex" witness. What needs to be confirmed is which point or at what angle the plane traversed this building.
All ANC witnesses (among many more) confirm that the plane flew over this point.

Interestingly, the following statement points to her not actually describing the plane hit the building, but seeing the fireball:


"It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon)."


Slip of the tongue or an idea of what she actually saw? What needs to be remembered is that assumptions should never be made from media quotes (which I've been guilty of) as we don't know where she was in the room when she first saw the aircraft. At the window? Here?

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...da85056c84f.jpg

Needs to be interviewed.

Jeff Analauf allegedly felt the blast from within the Sheraton Hotel.

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Jeff didn't feel the impact of the plane crash as directly as his wife. He was attending an environmental meeting on the second floor of the hotel when the plane struck the Pentagon. About five seconds before the crash, Jeff said he heard the sound of "tin being dropped," likely as construction workers building an addition to the hotel saw the plane and dropped their building materials. "Then, about 5 seconds later, the whole hotel shook," Jeff recalled. "I could feel it moving. We said 'Oh, my gosh, what's going on?' "


Jeff saw nothing.





Lt. Col. Stuart Artman

Source:Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

"Walking near the Washington Monument"

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b465/K...on/monument.jpg

In relation to the Pentagon:

http://cdn4.wn.com/ph/img/94/5c/da1fc61945...1c17-grande.jpg

"I saw the plane that hit the Pentagon. It went behind some trees."

The Ledger (Lakeland, FL) (Lexis-Nexis - Joy Murphy)



Source: Jeff Hill interview

ARTMAN: Well, I saw the plane -- or A plane -- and if you just look around the sky you see planes all the time, so divert my attention to something else. And then it was only a mere-- few min-- seconds later if you will that I saw the smoke plume if you will coming from the Pentagon. Cause you can't see the Pentagon directly from the Washington monument.

(...)

ARTMAN: Yeah, I-- I didn't see any other plane. And you know when something like that happens, you never can anticipate what's gonna happen next. So you see a plane, you're at the monument looking at the monument and your attention is focused somewhere else, and then, in a matter of seconds later, you see a smoke plume, and then the world shuts down. So, what-- what could it be? Did I actually see it hit? No. Cause you CAN'T. Not from that vantage point.


Stated that he didn't, nor was in any position to see the alleged impact.




Breakdown A:

7 alleged witnesses

- inside Pentagon during event

 - 1

- not there 

- 1

= 5

- could not physically see Pentagon 

- 1

- Jeff Anlauf


- could not physically see Pentagon and stated so 

- 1

- Artman

= 3 alleged impact witnesses allegedly in a position to see 

- George Aman - NOC, over the Navy Annex
- Steve Anderson - 2 km away
- Deb Analauf - possible over the Navy Annex, vague on what she actually saw at moment of alleged impact.




Breakdown B:

7 alleged witnesses

6 of which are media sourced. 

1 of which is a CMH interview.

1 of which was interviewed by CIT.

- Aman

1 of which was contacted by Jeff Hill.

- Artman




Breakdown C:

1 of which was possibly describing the East of Potomac/Washington flightpath that contradicts the official "loop"

- Steve Anderson

1 of which is confirmed NOC

- Aman

1 of which is a confirmed over the Navy Annex witness.

- Aman

1 of which may be describing the "over the Navy Annex" flightpath

- Analauf

2 of which described "ducking/diving/physical reaction to the blast"

- Anlauf, Deb and Jeff ("the whole hotel shook")




Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government:

Those who work for or have connections to the media

- Steve Anderson

Those who are connected to the military 

- Stuart Artman (Lt. Col)
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A Regular Jim Garrison
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September 6th, 2012, 7:25 pm #3


Witness B breakdown




Banton, Ralph

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

On a house porch a little more than a mile away from the Pentagon.

"It sounded like it was jetting instead of slowing down."


Doesn't mention seeing, nor was in any position to see the alleged impact.





Battle, David

Source: Media

Standing outside the Pentagon just about to enter. (OSS - south or north entrance - parking lot?)

"It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking."

Albuquerque Tribune Online


Describes concussion of blast. Does not mention and could not physically see alleged impact area.




Bauer, Gary

Source: Media

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2265775

Driving into Washington DC  (I395 exit lane)

"I was in a massive traffic jam, hadn’t moved more than a hundred yards in twenty minutes...I was going past the Pentagon, really inching a yard or so every couple of minutes. I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine..it wasn’t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars


1. He is a PNAC signatory.

2. Look at his alleged POV and remember that he claims to have been in heavy traffic and the roofline of the Pentagon is just about visible from his alleged POV.

3. He claims to have seen the aircraft "veer[ed] to the right"

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pentagon/spe...gonapproach.jpg





Beans, Michael

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"You heard this huge concussion, then the room filled with this real bright light, just like everything was encompassed within this bright light," said Beans. "As soon as I hit the floor, all the lights went out, there was a small fire starting to burn


Inside the building. Did not witness alleged impact.





Bease, Maurice

"They saw"

Source: Media

http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/05/02...hought-died-911

An officer entered and told the Marines to stand by for a threat briefing. Bease asked if he could step outside for some air. He was standing on the east side of the Pentagon when he heard a buzzing sound.

[OSS: East of the Pentagon is on the opposite side of the alleged impact zone]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4553/imagevr.jpg

"It was like a jet doing a flyover," he says. "I took a quick look, and I noticed a white aircraft coming in fast toward the ground, and it looked like it was coming directly toward us. It disappeared on the other side of the building, and I heard and felt a large crash. I looked up and I could see the orange fireball coming from the roof of the Pentagon, followed by the black smoke."


He was on the other side of the building. Could not physically see the alleged impact. His exact POV needs to be ascertained.





Begala, Paul

Source: Media


Paul Begala, a Democratic consultant, said he witnessed an explosion near the Pentagon. "It was a huge fireball, a huge, orange fireball," he said in an interview on his mobile phone. He said another witness told him a helicopter exploded. AP, Washington, 9/12/2001 11:45:33 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0...50486%2C00.html


Obviously not a witness to the alleged impact.





Bell, Mickey

Source : Second hand media account

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


Mickey Bell : The jet came in from the south and banked left as it entered the building, narrowly missing the Singleton Electric trailer and the on-site foreman, Mickey Bell. Bell had just left the trailer when he heard a loud noise. The next thing he recalled was picking himself off the floor, where he had been thrown by the blast. Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane's wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away.


Bell has never been directly quoted. This is a second hand media snippet touting the official narrative.

Later in the same quote

He ended up back at Singleton's headquarters in Gaithersburg two hours later, according to President Singleton, not remembering much...Bell had no idea what had happened..."






Benedetto, Richard

Source : Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"Then the plane flew right over my head. I said to myself, boy, that plane is going awfully fast. That plane is going to crash .... The noise was like an artillery shell, not an explosion like a bomb...The plane went down and for a split second it was out of my line of vision because there was a bridge there and a hill. ... I didn't actually see the impact...
The Hartford Courant (Lexis-Nexis)


On record as stating that he didn't see the alleged impact

Additional info:

Richard Benedetto is an adjunct professor of Journalism. He is a retired White House correspondent and columnist for USA Today and political columnist for Gannett News Service. He began teaching at AU in 2006. He reported on local, state and national government and politics for nearly 40 years and continues to write political commentary for publications such as Politico. Benedetto is a founding member of USA Today , joining in 1982. He wrote the national newspaper’s first Page One cover story. Benedetto covered the White House during the administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush. He has covered every national political convention since 1972 and every presidential campaign since 1984.
http://www.american.edu/soc/faculty/benedett.cfm






Biggert, Judy

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


Members of Congress have been shuttled to the site to inspect the damage. Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) made the trip on Thursday. She saw remnants of the airplane. 'There was a seat from a plane, there was part of the tail and then there was a part of green metal, I could not tell what it was, a part of the outside of the plane,' she said. 'It smelled like it was still burning.'


Not a witness to the aircraft. Didn't arrive at the scene until 13th September.





Birdwell Brian

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Birdwell walked out to the men's room in corridor 4, a move that saved his life. He had just taken three or four steps out of the bathroom when the building was rocked. "Bomb!" the Gulf War vet immediately thought as he was knocked down. When he stood up, he realized he was on fire. "Jesus, I'm coming to see you"


Not only is it a second hand account, but Birdwell was inside the building and did not see the flight of the aircraft.





Boger, Sean

Source: Media

In the heliport in front of the Pentagon

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...portcircled.jpg

Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building." "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building." The crew, Boger and Spc. Jacqueline Kidd, air traffic controller and training supervisor, prepared for President George W. Bush to arrive from Florida around 12:30 p.m.
http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/pentagram/6...ws/12049-1.html



Source: Center for Military History

http://www.thepentacon.com/neit299


Source: CIT interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1udtPUR1Q

Or

http://www.thepentacon.com/SeanBogerATC.htm

"It would be on my right or the gas station's left. If I'm looking out my window ....Because I'm looking toward the gas station...it would be on my right hand side."

"As he was coming towards me it just seemed like he was tilting the aircraft to his right"



He said that he does not believe it was level or that low. He claims it was on a descent and that it was between the 2nd and 3rd floor (which is equal to his height in the heliport tower) rather than beneath his point of view on the first floor as depicted in the ASCE report and required by the physical damage.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...anBogersPOV.jpg

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b.../thirdfloor.jpg

Boger is adamant that the aircraft hit the building but the NOC flightpath that he described, which is not open to obfuscation (alleged "parallax issues" or "perspective") contradicts this.

He is alleged to have originally stated that he "fell to the ground and covered [his] head". At what point in the alleged 0.4 seconds to cross the lawn? Or the 0.2 seconds it would take to fully penetrate the facade?

I have a major problem with the scenario where somebody could physically stand at a large heliport window and watch a large aircraft hurtling towards their position.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...tanimxox1rt.gif





Bouchoux, Donald

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"At 9:40 a.m. I was driving down Washington Boulevard (Route 27) along the side of the Pentagon when the aircraft crossed about 200 yards in front of me and impacted the side of the building. There was an enormous fireball, followed about two seconds later by debris raining down. The car moved about a foot to the right when the shock wave hit. I had what must have been an emergency oxygen bottle from the airplane go flying down across the front of my Explorer and then a second piece of jagged metal come down on the right side of the car." 


http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...ck_spacei-1.jpg

I have given Bouchoux the benefit of the doubt and placed him at the point shown but he may very well have been further back.
Needs confirmation but the "200 yards" distance ahead of him leans more towards NOC.

Strangely he describes his car as having "moved about a foot to the right when the shock wave hit", while those driving North on the lanes closer to the explosion described no such thing (that's why I placed him in direct line with the alleged impact zone).

He was allegedly in a position to witness the alleged impact but his POV needs to be further investigated - Jeff Hill phoned him and didn't ask any details whatsoever other than whether he witnessed an "impact" or not.





Bowman, John

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

John Bowman, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel and a contractor, was in his office in Corridor Two near the main entrance to the south parking lot. "Everything was calm,' Bowman said. "Most people knew it was a bomb. Everyone evacuated smartly. We have a good sprinkling of military people who have been shot at."
http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/pentagram/6...ws/10380-1.html


Was inside the building and not a witness to alleged impact. Even described a "bomb".





Brennan, Donald

Source : Library of Congress interview

Pentagon Police Officer
Main cafeteria area

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/S?amme...nnan,+donald+))

Says he heard of plane approaching by earpiece and then got a second call to say "a plane has hit the building...but I didn't know which side"

Donald Brennan was discussed in this thread:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/ar/t808.htm

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...dringsblast.jpg

He was in the cafeteria area on the other side of the building in the inner rings. He is not a witness to the flight of the aircraft.





Bradley, Pam

Source: Unverified e mail to BBC

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


"I work in Washington DC area, and was on my way to work, in my car, sitting on a bridge, and saw the plane hit the Pentagon. I am in a complete state of shock."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/1540586.stm


She was either on 14th St Bridge or Arlington Memorial Bridge headed into DC. Either way she was driving "towards DC and away from the Pentagon.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1437/arlingtonbridges.png

No way could she physically witness an "impact". If "she" exists.





 Braman Chris

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Staff Sgt. Chris Braman : The lawn was littered with twisted pieces of aluminum. He saw one chunk painted with the letter "A" another with a "C". It didn't occur to Braman what the letters signified until a man in the crowd stooped to pick up one of the smaller metal shards. He examined it for a moment, then announced: "This was a jet."'


Second hand media account. Not a witness to the flight of the aircraft. The "debris" has never been officially identified.





Bright, Mark

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Defense Protective Service officers were the first on the scene of the terrorist attack. One, Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building. "I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." The plane would have been seconds from impact -- the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon. He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the Pentagon. "As soon as it struck the building I just called in an attack, because I knew it couldn't be accidental," Bright said. He jumped into his police cruiser and headed to the area. 
http://www.dcmilitary.com/marines/henderso...ws/10797-1.html


What Mark Bright is actually quoted as saying has been highlighted.
Doesn't say that he directly saw the lightpoles or the building being struck. Further investigation is needed to ascertain exactly what he saw and what he could physically see.

For example, the "guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building". Is this it (where the gatecam is located or the one behind it)? Or somewhere else?

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5698/gatecam.jpg

The reason I ask is because the Mall area is to the North of the Pentagon

http://rabbitsden.files.wordpress.com/2011...avy_command.gif

Could he physically see the lightpoles?

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8676/5f...elightpoles.jpg

His testimony needs to be expanded upon.





Brooks, Chad

Source: LOC/CIT interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKov_UZDQE

NOC witness.

His stated POV:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...f46888a41b5.jpg

He was parked in this area (in carpark area below US Air Force Memorial seen in background)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...d5eb99fccb9.jpg

The view from stretch of road that runs below carpark:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...25a0b7717ff.jpg


Not an unobstructed view.





Brown, Ervin

Source: unknown (not linked to at following site)

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

At the Pentagon, employees had heard about or seen footage of the World Trade Centre attack when they felt their own building shake. Ervin Brown, who works at the Pentagon, said he saw pieces of what appeared to be small aircraft on the ground, and the part of the building by the heliport had collapsed.


Second hand account of somebody who didn't witness the flight of the aircraft.





Brown, Rich

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Pentagon staff raced along a wooden pathway opposite the Pentagon building, all heading towards bridges that would take them across the Potomac River. Grown men ran at full pace. Rich Brown was sitting at his desk and "there was just a huge sound that shook the building for a second or two". "I don't know what's happened. I assume it's a co-ordinated terrorist attack."
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/08/23/1030052968648.html


Inside building. He didn't know what had happened. He did not see an alleged impact.





Bryceland, Frank

Source: Media

"WTC7 lies"

http://history.amedd.army.mil/memoirs/sold.../responding.pdf

"About 9:30 or so — I don't know the exact time, maybe quarter to 10 — we were still in the conference room, and we heard and felt the loud explosion of the plane hitting the Pentagon, and it reminded me of an earthquake.

Around 2:00 or 3:00, after helping the fire department, they decided that we could be better utilized on the front side. We got all the litters and stretchers and so on, and we moved over to the front side. From 2:30 to about 6, again we helped by doing whatever we could to support people already there, the emergency workers and so on. But none of us were allowed back in the building. They had already organized and got whatever folks they could out of the fire earlier that day. 

We could not see the plane. The only thing that we saw was a piece of the front skin with the “C” from American Airlines by the little heliport control tower. There was a fire truck there that was burnt on one side, and a car, and a tree, all burnt. But, still, you could not see the plane."


Is not a witness to the flightpath of the plane. Even shows incredulity that a plane "crashed" there.





Burgess, Lisa

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


Lisa Burgess, a reporter for the Army newspaper Stars and Stripes, said she was walking in a corridor near the blast site and was thrown to the ground by the force of the blast. 
http://www.neurosis.org...


Inside the building. Did not see flightpath or alleged impact.




Breakdown A:

22 alleged witnesses

- inside Pentagon during event - 9

- not there - 1

= 12

- could not physically see Pentagon 

- 3

- Banton
- Begala
- Bradley

- stated that they didn't/couldn't see alleged impact

- 1

- Benedetto

= 8

- second hand account 

- 1

- Bell (not quoted once)

= 7

- allegedly in the area, could not see alleged impact zone

- 3

- Battle
- Bauer
- Bease

- vague testimony

- 1

- Mark Bright ( vague as to whether he actually saw the alleged impact)


= 3 alleged impact witnesses allegedly in a position to see 

- Boger (NOC, over the Navy Annex)
- Bouchoux  (exact POV not known)
- Brooks (NOC)





Breakdown B:

There are 22 alleged witnesses

19 of which are media sourced

1 of which is also CMH based and verified by CIT

- Boger

1 of which is also LOC based and verified by CIT

- Brooks

1 of which was called by Jeff Hill

- Bouchoux (fly by non descript phonecall)

1 is an unverified e mail 


2 are confirmed NOC and over the Navy Annex witnesses

- Boger
- Brooks

2 described a sharp right bank

- Boger
- Bauer


5 of which described "ducking/diving/physical reaction to the blast"

- Battle ("everything was shaking")
- Bauer (blast "rocked all of our cars")
- Bease ("felt a large crash")
- Boger ("I fell to the ground and covered my head")
- Bouchoux ("the car moved about a foot to the right")

1 of which would have had the aircraft in view for 1 second (OCT speed and flightpath):

"the aircraft crossed about 200 yards in front of me" (Rt27)

- Bouchoux

1 questioned the alleged site of an airplane crash

"We could not see the plane. The only thing that we saw was a piece of the front skin with the “C” from American Airlines by the little heliport control tower. There was a fire truck there that was burnt on one side, and a car, and a tree, all burnt. But, still, you could not see the plane."

- Bryceland




Breakdown C:

1 of which whose account of actually witnessing the alleged impact is second hand (media)

"One, Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building."

- Bright




Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

2 work for or are connected to the media

- Benedetto (Founding member of USA Today)
- Burgess (Stars and Stripes)

1 is a PNAC signatory

- Bauer

1 is connected to the military

- Bouchoux (Retired Naval Officer)

1 was Pentagon Tower Chief

- Boger

2 were DPS (Pentagon police)

- Bright
- Brooks

1 was a Pentagon office worker

- Battle
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Witnesses C breakdown




Campo, Omar

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Source: Media

This guy's account was butchered in translation here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1fa23_pe...mar-campos_news

This translation was further twisted by media reports:

Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 
"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."


First of all he was planting "small trees" at the "building beside the Pentagon here.." where it flew over his head "just above the treetops" and "on the other side of the road".

Going by those descriptions can you tell where he was? 

Hint: there are no buildings "beside the Pentagon" on the official path within the Pentagon basin.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...GroupsMap-3.jpg


He is also quoted as a "small plane" witness when in actual fact he said that the plane appeared smaller "like a United Airlines plane", not a small passenger jet as some have claimed.

A Spanish speaking poster at the CIT forum (I speak Spanish myself) pointed out the mistakes in translation here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2241757

He is not a witness to the alleged impact and his testimony points more to the NOC flightpath.

More detailed breakdown from above link:

His only testimony is in this live video clip

Campos interview.

The guy who translated for the interviewer changed the context and content of what he said and saw.

“sabes que yo estaba trabjando en el edificio que tenemos aqui al costado"

I was working in the building that we have over here to the side.


When asked what he saw Campos said the plane came in over him low, "so low it moved the trees.."

“yo lo via que me pasaba aqui por encima, tu sabes que venia muy bajo y movia hasta los arboles, hasta segun venia tan de bajo”.


He repeats the fact that it was low twice. The translator, on the other hand, changed that to say it came in “very fast down, it moved then go straight to the building”. The translator didn’t even mention it was low, which is what Campos emphasized. Campos didn’t say anything about the speed of the plane, and DID NOT say it “moved straight to the building”. The translator made that up. 

Also related to the color of the plane, Gordon Peterson (the interviewer) mentioned American Airlines (nothing leading there) and the translator passed that on in his question to Omar. Campos ignored them and responded that it was like one of the planes here from United ("algo asi como los de la United"), which was translated as "a United States Plane" by the translator. Omar was clearly talking about United Airlines, not "United States Plane". Omar wasn’t mixing English and Spanish like the “translator”. Had he meant a “United States Plane” he would have used “de los estados unidos” or “estado unidinese”. In effect Omar was confirming Sgt Brooke’s perception of the plane as being one from United Airlines. 

So where in this picture is a building "to the side of the Pentagon"and trees? It certainly isn't on the south path.



So he isn't an alleged impact witness or an 'AA' witness according to this testimony





Candelario, Joseph

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

...a first year student in the Family Nurse Practitioner Program watched from the River by Fort McNair.

 "I noticed a large aircraft flying low towards the White House. This aircraft then made a sharp turn and flew towards the Pentagon and seconds later crashed into it."


Actually contradicts the official "loop" which doesn't cross the Potomac River discussed in the following thread:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=98&st=0

The official "loop":

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...flight_path.jpg

At what point in the above image does the aircraft "fly towards the White House" then make a "sharp turn...towards the Pentagon"

View from White House to Pentagon:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegaller...y/phpcCVt6w.jpg

He was allegedly in Fort McNair:

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6915/fortmcnair.png

on the other side of the Potomac River. 

He can't physically see the alleged impact zone, but he certainly contradicts the official flight path that loops to the west of the Potomac River without crossing.





Carroll, Susan

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

"I was standing on the platform high above the [Washington Reagan] airport awaiting a Metro subway train to my office in the heart of the district, on Constitution Avenue, admiring the lovely blue skies when I saw the plane hit and the fireball and explosion at the Pentagon."


Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=1581666

Her alleged POV:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mer...ndrodriguez.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mer...aragemetrol.jpg

Maybe she saw the aircraft, but she could not physically see the alleged impact. How could she?

Additional info (media connections)

http://www.sewallbelmont.org/womenwecelebr...j-carroll-ph-d/





Carter, Donald

Source: CIT interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBT-f2Px1wA

A: Me and Darrell were discussing something, um, a project over at section we were supposed to be going in for that day. And, um--- So at the time, you know, all of a sudden, we seen a plane as far as over here, over the Naval Annex? Coming from over... So, actually, you know, we spotted him then he--- The plane actually veered off, sort of like he swerved off, and then he caught... you know, got... got on track. And then he hit the Pentagon.

[...]

Q: Would you say it was more on, on the north side of the Navy Annex over here? Or the south side on the far other end?

A: It was more like, sort of like he was centered.


[...]

A: We started runnin'. And then, at that time, you know, when we was runnin', I looked... I sorta kinda looked back, you know, seen the explosion. As it exploded, you know, felt the heat. Felt the heat of the explosion.

[...]

Q: So--- I mean--- Some people say that it was far on the other side of the Citgo.

A: No.

Q: What do you have to say about that?

A: Well, they must didn't see it.
Cause I"m, I'm standin'--- As a matter fact, I was standing right here, discussing, you know, like I was telling you.


The flightpath he drew:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt.../carterpath.jpg

Additional info:

He contradicts the official C130 flightpath:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...pproachgif1.gif

Official C130 flightpath vs witnessed flightpath:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...0comparison.jpg

Carter is not a witness to the alleged impact. Though he saw the explosion as he looked back he did not describe seeing the aircraft strike the building. He describes the NOC flightpath and completely contradicts the official C130 flightpath





Chaconas, Steve

CIT interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5D2K19Y-aI


Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=98

He describes seeing the aircraft crossing the Potomac River from Washington

Touched on here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=168

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V106NvMdQY





Chauncey, Don

Source: Media

"Arabesque" and 911Myths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjKDNxNtk2o

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2103686

Don: Well myself and another coworker who sits beside me, both of us were actually on the phone looking out the window when it happened and we both dropped the phone, and we picked it back up, and said we got to go, it looks like somebody…there’s been a plane crash at either the airport or the Pentagon.


His POV:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a1fa9ddef1.jpg

Very strange testimony on reading the breakdown of his account by researcher "22205" at the link above.

Did not witness alleged impact.





Cissell, James

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

As former Cincinnatian James R. Cissell sat in traffic on a Virginia interstate by the Pentagon Tuesday morning, he saw the blur of a commercial jet and wondered why it was flying so low. ''Right about the time it was crossing over the highway, it kind of dawned on me what was happening,'' said Cissell, son of Hamilton County Clerk of Courts Jim Cissell. In the next blink of an eye, he realized he had a front-row seat to history, as the plane plowed into the Pentagon, sending a fireball exploding into the air and scattering debris - including a tire rim suspected of belonging to the airplane - past his car. (...) In the next seconds dozens of things flashed through his mind. ''I thought, "This isn't really happening. That is a big plane." Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board,'' Cissell said. While he remembers seeing the crash, Cissell remembers none of the sounds. ''It came in in a perfectly straight line,'' he said. ''It didn't slow down. I want to say it accelerated. It just shot straight in.''
http://www.cincypost.com/attack/cissel091201.html


Cissell refutes this media embellishment of his testimony:

"The Cincinnati Post article, which you refer, angered me greatly after reading it. It is almost completely fiction based loosely on an interview I did with a Cincinnati Post reporter Kimball Perry who called me in response to an on air phone report that I did for Channel 12 in Cincinnati."


Cissell relates what he actually told the reporter.


"The reporter took extreme creative license not only with the title but also with the story as a whole. Why he felt the need to sensationalize anything that happened on September 11 is beyond me. My words to the reporter were, "I was about four cars back from where the plane crossed over the highway. That it happened so quickly I didn't even see what airline it was from. However, I was so close to the plane when it went past that had it been sitting on a runway, I could have seen the faces of passengers peering out."


also

"Looking at the trajectories in the diagrams they have online seems off to me. I remember the plane coming in more directly at the side of the building than at an angle," said Cissell.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2...ht77.htm (dead)


Further investigation needed as he places himself "four cars back" (alleged approx placement Penny Elgas gave) from where the aircraft crossed Route 27 and "coming in more directly at the side of the building than at an angle"

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...GroupsMap-3.jpg

If the aircraft passed just in front of his car, it would have arrived from behind at an almost 45 degree angle.

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pentagon/spe...gonapproach.jpg

He was allegedly in a position to witness the alleged impact but he doesn't describe the official directional damage path at all.


Additional info:

A former photojournalist who, for the last three years, has worked for the Freedom Forum Museum in Arlington, Va., Cissell was listening to his car radio and the news of the planes slamming into the World Trade Center while sitting in traffic.

''I was thinking, 'If anything happens to the Pentagon right now, I don't have my (photo) gear with me,' '' he said today.


http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/docu...ocumentID=18012

Connections to USA Today and Gannett through the "Freedom Forum Museum" founded by USA TODAY and former chairman and chief executive officer, Gannett Co, ALLEN H. NEUHARTH.





Clem, Dennis (Pentagon Chief Information Officer/Deputy Director of Defence Intelligence Agency)

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

South Parking Lot

"There was a commercial airliner that said American Airliners over the side of it flying at just above treetop height at full speed headed for the Pentagon."


There is no view of the west face of the Pentagon bar from the first few lanes.

http://truthandshadows.files.wordpress.com.../pentagon-2.jpg

Ignoring the fact that he's a Pentagon CIO, it needs to be confirmed exactly where he allegedly was. Either way he makes no mention of witnessing any alleged impact.





Cleveland, Allen

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

"I was just pulling in on the subway station at national airport, I just happened to look over, actually my back was facing in the direction of the Pentagon, I looked to the right from the train, as we were coming into the station and I notice a jet flying in real low, about a mid-size passenger jet flying in, I know it was silver, that's the only thing I know, as it was coming in, I just realized that there was no landing strip on that side of the subway system, so I just happened to look and thought maybe it was just my mistake because the subway system kind of curves around a little bit, and the next thing I know there was a huge explosion there and everybody on the subway, one mouthed profanity, everybody on the subway turned around and looked and everyone went into total hysterics, women were crying, and people were just absolutely in disbelief."


discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=1581666

His alleged POV:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mer...ndrodriguez.jpg

Did not state that he saw, nor could he physically see the alleged impact.





Clodfelter, George

Source: Media

"They Saw"

His story is of rescue work. He makes no mention of the aircraft anywhere. Not a witness to the flight of the aircraft.





Close, Bernadette

Source: Media

http://history.amedd.army.mil/memoirs/sold.../responding.pdf

"I was on the last day of my AT [annual training]. I found myself in front of a computer typing up forms and putting them into a database. One of my techs came up and said, “Doesn't your husband work in the Pentagon?” I said, “No, but he goes there sometimes. Why?” And Specialist Chadwick goes, “Well, they just blew up the Pentagon.” And I was like, “You're kidding me?”

[...]

But we did go right up by the helipad almost (OSS: late afternoon). You could see pieces of the airplane sitting there, and it looked like some cushions or some pieces. –

[...]

About 8:00, they told us we could go home, that the AFIP [Armed Forces Institute of Pathology] was there, and the FBI was there. It seemed like it was kind of a political issue as to who had responsibility for which area, and that if the AFIP was coming in, then they didn't need us because they had their own group, and the FBI was still in charge, though, so we were just kind of sitting here going what's going on?"


Didn't arrive until the afternoon. Did not see aircraft nor alleged impact.





Cohen, Terry

Source: Media

NBC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM02irUiHf4

"we heard the boom"


Not a witness to the aircraft.





Cook, Scott

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

We didn't know what kind of plane had hit the Pentagon, or where it had hit. Later, [we were told that] it was a 757 out of Dulles, which had come up the river in back of our building, turned sharply over the Capitol, ran past the White House and the Washington Monument, up the river to Rosslyn, then dropped to treetop level and ran down Washington Boulevard to the Pentagon(...) As we watched the black plume gather strength, less than a minute after the explosion, we saw an odd sight that no one else has yet commented on. Directly in back of the plume, which would place it almost due west from our office, a four-engine propeller plane, which Ray later said resembled a C-130, started a steep decent towards the Pentagon.


Didn't witness alleged impact.

Additional info:

Scott Cook's alleged POV

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...20movie/173.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...ottcookspov.jpg

A zoomed in shot from his office:

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk43/SP...t_Cook_view.jpg

His own comments accompanying this zoomed image at his now defunct website:

 
The Pentagon from my office at exactly 9:38AM, September 11, 2002, one year after the attack. The plane hit the far side of the building, about where the crane arm sticks up in this picture.

I had just scanned the sky and the scene one more time, and turned to Ray. We were talking about the need for a swift response to this attack (we were already talking about bin Laden) when Ray leapt to one side, his face instantly animated beyond anything I had ever seen.

"They just hit the Pentagon!"

I turned. Rising up from the right center of the Pentagon’s mass was a gigantic spherical orange mass, the flames oddly bright and vivid in the clear direct sunlight. I stepped to the window, and instinctively put my hand to the glass. Verle and Ray were quickly on either side of me. A few seconds after the explosion, the glass rattled and a dull boom shook the room.

http://www.scottpcook.com/clothmonkey/91101.htm


His description of the C130 contradicts witness testimony, videotape footage and the OCT RADES data:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=503

Again, not an alleged impact witness.





Correa, Victor

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

LTC Victor Correa work at the Pentagon. (...) LTC Victor Correa's office, what was the Army's Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel, now the Army G-1, was in the path of the Boeing 757 that crashed into the Pentagon on a sunny fall morning. He was walking over to talk to a co-worker in the next cubicle when he was knocked down by the impact[...]"We thought it was some kind of explosion. That somehow someone got in here and planted bombs because we saw these holes."


Inside the building. Did not witness the alleged impact.





Cox, Richard (Arlington po)

Source: Media

"They Saw"

Three blocks further along, at the intersection of Columbia Pike with South Wayne Street, Police Motorcycle Officer Richard Cox observed the airliner flying so close to the ground that the polished underside of its fuselage reflected the images of the buildings it passed on its flight; then he heard an explosion.


He is alleged to have seen the aircraft well before the Navy Annex with no view of the Pentagon basin. He doesn't contradict the NOC flightpath.

Additional info:

"The White Plane"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b22FtxlnzEA





"Dr Corley"

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"It was striking to me how little of the building was involved in the fire," said Dr. Corley, who has reviewed the Pentagon report. The fire, he said, "didn't spread and and trap other people in the building. "While 125 Pentagon workers and 59 passengers and crew members on the plane died, few if any of the workers who died were from outside the immediate impact zone."
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/05/nyregion/05TOWE.html


Wasn't there. Did not see alleged impact.





 Creed, Dan

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," Creed recalls.


Does not mention witnessing alleged impact (his POV isn't established) nor does he contradict NOC. Needs further investigation.

Carpark?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/DSC_0411.jpg





Cruz-Cortes

Source: Media

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1191.0

Army Sgt. Roxane Cruz-Cortes, top, and Marine Cpl. Michael Vera, right, were both inside the Pentagon when the plane hit, and both stayed inside to rescue wounded co-workers.

Marine Cpl. Michael Vera never heard the explosion caused by Flight 77.


Inside the building. Did not see the plane.




Breakdown A:

There are 18 alleged witnesses

- Inside the Pentagon at time of event 

- 2

- not there 

- 3

= 13

- could not physically see Pentagon 

- 6

- Candelario
- Carroll
- Chaconas
- Chauncey
- Cleveland
- Cox

= 7

- stated that they did not see alleged impact  

- 2

- Cook
- Carter

= 5

- inferred that they didn't see alleged impact ("felt/heard") 

- 2

- Campo
- Cohen (inside a trailer)

= 3

- vague description and/or doesn't mention actually seeing alleged impact 

- 1

- Creed

= 2

- could not physically see alleged impact zone and whose POV isn't known 

- 1

- Clem

= 1 alleged impact witness in a position to see

- Cissell (possible NOC)




Breakdown B:

There are 18 alleged witnesses

16 of which are media sourced

2 of which have media connections

- Cissell
- Carroll

2 of which were interviewed by CIT

- Carter
- Chaconas


1 of which is a confirmed NOC and over the Navy Annex witness

- Carter

1 contradicts the C130 RADES data

- Carter

2 of which are possible NOC witnesses

- Cissell
- Campo

2 contradict the official "loop" to the west of the Potomac River/Washington

Watch video presentation linked to:

- Chaconas

"I noticed a large aircraft flying low towards the White House. This aircraft then made a sharp turn and flew towards the Pentagon"

- Candelario

1 second hand contradiction of official "loop" (that is multiple corroborated):

"Later, [we were told that] it was a 757 out of Dulles, which had come up the river in back of our building, turned sharply over the Capitol, ran past the White House and the Washington Monument, up the river to Rosslyn, then dropped to treetop level and ran down Washington Boulevard to the Pentagon"

- Cook


2 of which described "ducking/diving/physical reaction to the blast"

"we were outside in a little construction trailer...the building shook, the ceiling tiles fell out of the ceiling"

- Cohen

"the glass rattled and a dull boom shook the room"

- Cook





Breakdown C:

1 of which is media misinfo addressed by the witness himself

"as the plane plowed into the Pentagon, sending a fireball exploding into the air and scattering debris - including a tire rim suspected of belonging to the airplane - past his car."

The witness response to the article:

"The Cincinnati Post article, which you refer, angered me greatly after reading it. It is almost completely fiction based loosely on an interview I did with a Cincinnati Post reporter Kimball Perry who called me in response to an on air phone report that I did for Channel 12 in Cincinnati"

- Cissell

1 of which was proven media mis/disinfo due to a total misrepresentation of his Spanish account

"very fast down, it moved then go straight to the building” (sic) - totally false

- Campo

1 of which (who couldn't see the Pentagon) is a second hand account.

"Police Motorcycle Officer Richard Cox observed the airliner flying so close to the ground that the polished underside of its fuselage reflected the images of the buildings it passed on its flight; then he heard an explosion"

- Cox





Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

1 of which was the Chief Information Officer/Deputy Director of Defence Intelligence Agency

- Clem

2 of which are connected to the media

- Carroll (media commentator)
- Cissell (photojournalist working for institution founded by USAToday chief)

1 of which is government connected

- Scott Cook (FAIR)

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Witness D breakdown




 "Damoose" 

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Damoose said the worst part was leaving the Pentagon and walking along Fort Meyer Drive, a bike trail, "you could see pieces of the plane."


Inside the building. Not a witness to the flightpath of the plane.





"Dave"

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Near the Lincoln Memorial

Dave heard two booms, which sounded like the artillery salutes on the Mall on the Fourth of July, he said. It was likely the noise from a secondary blast at the Pentagon.
http://www.gridlockmag.com/911/


Alleged second hand anonymous testimony with no physical view of aircraft nor alleged impact.





Day, Wayne T.

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

For one employee with Wedge One's mechanical subcontractor John J. Kirlin Inc., Rockville MD, "lucky" is an understatement. "We had one guy who was standing, looking out the window and saw the plane when it was coming in. He was in front of one of the blast-resistant windows," says Kirlin President Wayne T. Day, who believes the window structure saved the man's life.


Was he even there??
Not a witness to the flight of the aircraft.





DeChiaro, Steve

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Instead of following the streams of people away from the Pentagon, Steve DeChiaro ran toward the smoke. As he reached the west side of the building he saw a light post bent in half. "But when I looked at the site, my brain could not resolve the fact that it was a plane because it only seemed like a small hole in the building," he said. "No tail. No wings. No nothing."


Arrived on the scene after the incident. He is not a witness to the alleged impact. Incredulous testimony that there had been an alleged impact.





Defina, Michael

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific. It was obvious that some of the victims we found had no time to react. The distance the firefighters had to travel down corridors to reach the fires was a problem. With only a good 25 minutes of air in their SCBA bottles, to save air they left off their face pieces as they walked and took in a lot of smoke," Captain Defina said. Captain Defina was the shift commander [of an aircraft rescue firefighters crew.]
http://www.nfpa.org/NFPAJournal/OnlineExcl...ve_11.01.01.asp


Defina was at the Reagan National Airport allegedly tackling a car fire when the explosion occured.

Image that Defina took of the smoke plume just after explosion:

http://www.nfpa.org/assets/images/journal/PENT01.jpg

Not a witness to the flight of the aircraft nor the alleged impact.





Dent, Kim

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

"looking out of the window of an office in the Navy Annex"

"We saw the shadow of a plane. We heard the engine. We all said, That plane is flying kind of close."


Saw "the shadow of a plane"...that's it. Did not see aircraft or alleged impact.


Needs further investigation. Where exactly was her office and where did she allegedly see the shadow?





Dihle, Erik

Source: Center for Military History

http://www.thepentacon.com/neit426.mp3

Some people were yelling that a bomb hit the Pentagon and that a jet kept on going.


Erik Dihle isn't a witness to the aircraft as he was in his office when it happened.

The jet that "kept on going" was not seen by Dihle himself and although it's second hand testimony, it stands out like a sore thumb. He told this to CMH interviewers shortly after 9/11 so it was fresh in his mind. 

Source: CIT interview

http://www.thepentacon.com/ErikDihle.WMA

Incredibly he claims not to remember making that statement. But it is on record.

He is yet another ANC witness who contradicts the C130 RADES data



ERIK DIHLE (explaining where the second plane came from): "I would say somewhere between west by northwest."

CRAIG RANKE : "Sure, but definitely not from the south?"

ERIK DIHLE : "Oh no... not from the south.  No way.  Nope.  We--- unless somebody telling you [inaud] that's something I didn't-- didn't witness.  This plane definitely came from the.. absolutely positively it came from the west or northwest."


C130 RADES flightpath vs witnessed flightpath:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...0comparison.jpg





DiPaula, Michael

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Michael DiPaula 41, project coordinator Pentagon Renovation Team - He left a meeting in the Pentagon just minutes before the crash, looking for an electrician who didn't show, in a construction trailer less than 75 feet away. "Suddenly, an airplane roared into view, nearly shearing the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring. 'It sounded like a missile,' DiPaula recalls . . . Buried in debris and covered with airplane fuel, he was briefly listed by authorities as missing, but eventually crawled from the flaming debris and the shroud of black smoke unscathed.
http://www.sunspot.net/search/bal-archive-1990.htmlstory (killtown)


DiPaula was inside a construction trailer when the explosion occured. The quoted segment "Suddenly, an airplane roared into view, nearly shearing the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring" were the words of the journalist yet placed in quotations. 

Seen here:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2002-09-0...d-zero-cyclists

Screencap:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/879569b1.jpg





Mike Dobbs

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Standing on one of the upper levels of the outer ring of the Pentagon looking out the window 

"I was looking out the window and saw it come right over the Navy annex at a slow angle. It looked to me to be on a zero-to-zero course. It seemed to be almost coming in in slow motion. I didn't actually feel it hit, but I saw it and then we all started running."


Did not see alleged impact.





Donley, Daryl

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Source: Media

"I could see the windows. I saw the entire plane and then saw it fly right into the Pentagon." CNN News (Lexis-Nexis - Transcript #090803CN.V46)


06:45mins into this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Ow1nnJTws

"I saw the plane from tip to tip..I remember seeing the back of both engines"


Source: Library of Congress

http://www.loc.gov/locvideo/911photo/

"Hi, umm, before I show the images I’ll just briefly say, umm, as Carol has just mentioned, that I was in front of the Pentagon, stopped in the worse commuter traffic I’d ever experienced, before or since, and then heard a very loud plane, it got progressively louder, and it got so loud I ducked in my…(laughter)…is anyone out there? (laughs)... I, I ducked in my car it got so loud, and I turned to my right and the plane was next to me, umm, at an angle at just above ground level, and I later realized it had knocked down lampposts next to me, and saw it fly into the Pentagon"


Source: Jeff Hill

"I looked out my passenger window and the plane was next to me and level about 100ft or so away and I followed it and saw it fly into the Pentagon.
I was right in front of the Pentagon. I was as close as you can get to the Pentagon without being on the grounds."


The official directional damage path:

Lightpole path

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9192/of...hlightpoles.jpg

ASCE "tilt" across the lawn in accordance with the generator damage:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...dation/138b.jpg

Aircraft according to the official story:

As it should have been seen as it crossed Route 27 just before the lawn:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1777/imagetal.jpg

As it should have been seen crossing the lawn (although the alleged "tilt" isn't shown):

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4514/imageqmi.jpg

As above:

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3115/imagengt.jpg

As above:

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3954/imageuyj.jpg

As it should have appeared from the area that Donley places himself on the motorway:

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2263/imagegsw.jpg

Could he have physically seen "the back of both engines" from there?

The official speed of the aircraft (540-580 mph) and as claimed by the ASCE Report, would have been in his view as he described it for 0.5 seconds!

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7587/ascespeed.jpg

An idea of this speed can be seen here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdQYX70_vUk

Path along which he needed to be to describe "the back of both engines"

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9741/imageai.jpg


So, where was Donley given the snippets of information that he described?

He claimed that he could see the entire length of the aircraft ("tip to tip"), the "windows" and the "back of the engines" from "as close as you can get to the Pentagon without being on the grounds", "in front of the Pentagon". Within a 0.5 second timeframe (according to the official speed)

Look at the directional damage path and work that one out:

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3894/allgroupsmap3.jpg

Donley seems to be trying to fit what he saw with the official version. But he contradicts the speed , he is on record as having "ducked" in his car, not to have seen lightpoles being "struck" (or Lloyd's cab with a 30ft pole protruding from the windscreen) nor did he claim to see the approach. He would have seen a blur, then there was the matter of a massive explosion felt up to 3km away and an alleged 200ft diameter fireball (half the length from the facade to Route 27)

Needs further investigation.





Dougherty, Jill

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


It took your breath away, data analyst Jill Dougherty said of the vibration. It went right through you. "I didn't hear anything. I just felt it."
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/...12001EXTRA2.pdf


Inside Pentagon. Not a witness to the flightpath nor the alleged impact.






Dubill, Bob

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

He was passing the building the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, when he saw a jetliner fly over the roadway. It filled his field of vision. The jet was 40-feet off the ground speeding toward the Pentagon. “The wheels were up and I knew that this plane was not heading for National Airport,” he said. “This plane was going to slam into the Pentagon. I steeled myself for the explosion.”


Well? Did he see the alleged impact or not? Even the journalist description of him "passing the building" when he allegedly saw it "fill[ed] his field of vision" are mutually incompatible. He did not witness and seems to be deducing an impact according to this alleged testimony.

He may have (allegedly) been on this stretch of road which runs in front of the Pentagon up to the overhead sign (where lightpole 1 is sited to the left). There is no clear view of the alleged impact zone:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3968/view3dq3.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x180/T-...route27lie9.jpg

Especially in heavy traffic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrSUHbMhJo

Until he is interviewed in detail, it's dishonest to claim that he's an "impact witness" based on this media snippet.





Dyson, John

Source: Media

FOX, 17:29. John Dyson. “I was working in an area …between the two rings where a large ten foot diameter hole burst through, and there was the nose gear on the deck.” (at the C-ring)


Nose gear at the "exit hole". Okay. This was actually claimed at the Massaoui trial.

Not a witness to the flightpath. He was inside the Pentagon (allegedly).




Breakdown A:

There are 13 alleged witnesses.

- inside the Pentagon at time of event 

- 3

- not there 

- 3

= 7

- anonymous 

- 1

= 6

- could not physically see Pentagon 

- 1

- DiPaula

= 5

- stated that they didn't see alleged impact 

- 2

- Dihle
- Dobbs

= 3

- vague testimony and/or doesn't mention actually seeing alleged impact 

- 2

- Dubill
- Dent (saw "shadow")

= 1

= 1 alleged impact witness

- Daryl Donley




Breakdown B:

There are 13 alleged witnesses.

12 of which are media sourced

1 of which was contacted by Jeff Hill

- Donley

1 of which was interviewed by the CMH and by CIT

- Dihle

1 of which contradicts the official C130 flightpath

- Dihle

1 of which is a possible "over the Navy Annex" witness

1 of which is media mis/disinfo

- DiPaula

1 of which questioned the alleged impact scene.

"when I looked at the site, my brain could not resolve the fact that it was a plane because it only seemed like a small hole in the building," he said. "No tail. No wings. No nothing."

- DeChiaro

1 of which described "ducking/diving/physical reaction to the blast"

- Donley ("it got so loud I ducked")

1 of which would have had the aircraft in view (at OCT speed) for 0.5 seconds

- Donley

[b]1 of which is on record as claiming to have heard "people" describe "a bomb hit the Pentagon and a jet kept going"


- Dihle




Breakdown C:

1 of which (who arrived after the event) the media adds a second hand account about seeing a lightpole "bent in half"

- DeChiaro

1 of which was attributed to having directly quoted as seeing the aircraft approach when he was actually inside a trailer and saw nothing

- DiPaula

1 of which was attributed to having seen the aircraft "40 ft off the ground" by the reporter

- Dubill




Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

Military

- 1

- Dobbs (Marine Corps officer)

Media

- 2

- Donley (Gannett)
- Dubill (Executive Editor USA Today)[/b]


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Witness E-F breakdown




 Eberle, Bobby

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

GOPUSA founder Bobby Eberle was heavily implicated in "Gannongate"

http://insider-magazine.org/Gannongate.htm


"The route from where I'm staying to my conference hotel runs right by the Pentagon. As we slowly crept along in traffic at about 9:30 am, we rounded a bend and had the Pentagon in our sites -- right in front of us. We continued to listen to the radio to take in the latest news on what was happening.

[...]

The aircraft was so very low -- as an aircraft would be on its final approach to an airport. However, if you have watched any aircraft come in for a landing, even though the aircraft is descending, it is angled up slightly. This aircraft was angled downward. In addition, landing gear would also be visible on a aircraft so low and so near landing. This aircraft had its landing gear retracted. Finally, an aircraft on final approach is traveling rather slowly. This aircraft sped by very loudly and very quickly.

All of this flashed in my mind as the aircraft passed from behind my left shoulder to in front of me. It was then that the other events of the morning crystallized in the realization that tragedy was about to occur. With all of these images spinning in my head, the only words that came out of my mouth were "Oh no!"

With that, the airliner crashed into the Pentagon and exploded.

I shouted to my friend whose view was partially blocked by a truck in front of us, "Oh my gosh! The jet just hit the Pentagon!"
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/bobby/2001/bobby_0912.shtml (dead link)


The official FDR/Directional damage path:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2564/fdrpath1.png

The "truck" blocked just his friend's view?

His alleged POV is unknown, but if this Bush propagandist is to be believed, he would have been on the stretch of road before the overhead sign where there is no view of the alleged impact zone. Plus the "truck" in the next lane..





Elhallan, Aziz

Source: Media

Fox News

His contradictory claims are exposed here:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8818

The photo in which he was captured and exposed:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/DSC_0404.jpg

This image was released along with multiple images en bloq and was quickly removed by the DOD. It was downloaded purely by luck. Why remove such an apparently innocuous image?

He doesn't mention the plane's approach nor where his car allegedly was when the plane "flew over".
He isn't to be seen in any of the Ingersol images that were taken of the area minutes after the explosion around the lightpole area even though he claimed to be there for "20 minutes".

Why was he allowed to remove alleged physical evidence from the scene and parade it on FOX News? 

He claimed to be a pilot yet isn't registered.

He doesn't mention the lightpoles or Lloyd's cab.





Eiden, Steve

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Steve Eiden, a truck driver, had picked up his cargo that Tuesday morning in Williamsburg, Va., and was en route to New York City and witnessed the aftermath. He took the Highway 95 loop in the area of the Pentagon and thought it odd to see a plane in restricted airspace, thinking to himself it was odd that it was flying so low. "You could almost see the people in the windows," he said as he watched the plane disappear behind a line of trees, followed by a tall plume of black smoke. Then he saw the Pentagon on fire, and an announcement came over the radio that the Pentagon had been hit.
http://www.baxterbulletin.com/ads/chronology2001/page2.html


Not a witness to the alleged impact.

Additional info: 

The normal route from Williamsburg to New York

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/5ab5f51a.jpg




Elgas, Penny

Source: Media and Jeff Hill

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2465311

Claims to have witnessed an "impact" but her testimony contradicts the official flightpath.

Pure disinfo used (and still is) at the "American History" site

Context: Driving on a highway adjacent to the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, Penny Elgas stopped as she saw a passenger jet descend, clip a light pole near her, and then crash into the Pentagon. Arriving home, Elgas found this plane fragment in the back seat of her car (she theorizes that it dropped through the open sunroof). Feeling that it was her patriotic duty to preserve the fragment as a relic, she crafted a special box and lined it with red, white, and blue material. 

http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/...&mode=&record=0


Please read earlier link.



Elliott, Bruce

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Elliott, in a phone interview Wednesday, said he had just left the Pentagon and was about to board a shuttle van in a south parking lot when he saw the plane approach and slam into the west side of the structure. "I looked to my left and saw the plane coming in," said Elliott, who watched it for several seconds. "It was banking and garnering speed. I felt it was headed for the Pentagon." (...) "It was like a kamikaze pilot. I felt it was going to ram the Pentagon," he said. He said the craft clipped a utility pole guide wire, which may have slowed it down a bit before it crashed into the building and burst into flames. (...) Elliott said the rubble was still smoldering Wednesday morning.


There is no view of the alleged impact zone from the south parking lot of the Pentagon.

"It was banking and garnering speed. I [b]felt
it was headed for the Pentagon." (...) "It was like a kamikaze pilot. I felt it was going to ram the Pentagon,"

Could not physically see the alleged impact and his words testify to this.





England, Lloyd

Source: Media/NBC/Survivor Fund/CIT/Jeff Hill


Survivor Fund:

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2176/lloydstory.png

Interviewed by CIT

http://citizeninvestigationteam.com/videos...ofthestorm.html

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=429

General discussion here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showforum=15

This is the taxi cab driver who's cab (and himself) were photographed on the bridge and whose full story needs to be viewed in the video and links above.

Basically he claims that a lightpole speared his windshield (a physical mystery in itself) but that he "wasn't on the bridge" where the alleged lightpoles on the official path are situated on the side of the road he was allegedly driving on. And that he didn't see the alleged impact.

Detractor arguments addressed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...0&#entry2465465

Jeff Hill contacted Lloyd England and he repeated exactly the same story as he told CIT:

England: You know what? I know where the cab was and I know where they wanted it to be, but I can prove where the car was. There's a permanent picture of the fire and the Pentagon...my cab is the only cab in the world involved in 9/11...and I know where the car was. And they are trying to put the car somewhere else, for what reason, I don't know because they weren't there.

Hill : So they were trying to use some sort of distorted picture..

England: The pictures were made to be in one place when I was somewhere else....my car is not there at the bridge at Columbia  Pike. They got it wrong, and I don't know why they have it wrong.


Not a witness to the alleged impact and his contradictory story makes him a highly dubious witness. Nobody corroborates his story. 

Maybe this is why?

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...GroupsMap-3.jpg

Either way he has totally discredited himself as an honest witness.





Evey, Lee

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

This guy is repeatedly described as an "impact witness"

Whether you describe it as an explosion or not, people I talk to who were there, some called it an explosion. Others called it a large fire. I'm not sure. I wasn't there, sir. It's just a guess on my part.

http://www.patriotresource.com/wtc/federal/0915/DoD.html%20


He wasn't there at the time of the event.



Faram, Mark

Source: Media

"When the explosion happened I ran down the hill to the site and arrived there approximately 10 minutes after the explosion."


Did not see the flightpath of the aircraft or alleged impact. Claims to have "heard" the explosion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7wCrA-2IF0

Contradicts Stephen McGraw's stated claim that he was on the lawn "within a minute" of the explosion.





Flyler, Kim

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

"Kim Flyler was trying to sneak into a parking space near to the building when she saw the plane: "At that moment I heard a plane and then a loud cracking noise.... Right before the plane hit the building, you could see the silhouettes of people in the back two rows. You couldn't see if they were male or female, but you could tell there was a human being in there."


"Silhouettes". She "heard" the plane and caught a glimpse "right before" the explosion.

She places herself "near the building" in the south parking lot. She could not physically see the alleged impact zone.





Ford, Ken

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

One eyewitness, State Department employee Ken Ford, said he watched from the 15th floor of the State Department Annex, just across the Potomac River from the Pentagon. "We were watching the airport through binoculars," Ford said, referring to Reagan National Airport, a short distance away. "The plane was a two-engine turbo prop that flew up the river from National. Then it turned back toward the Pentagon. We thought it had been waved off and then it hit the building. "


Another alleged witness (an alleged employee of the state department) who contradicts the official path. The aircraft was nowhere near the Potomac river (around the airport area) according to the official story.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...flight_path.jpg

He was in downtown Washington DC and couldn't physically see the aircraft's path within the basin. Nor could he have seen the alleged "impact".

His POV needs to be established.

And why did a "State Department employee" have a pair of binoculaurs handy?




 Fortunato, Don

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImJ0NxZX2wI


"Traffic was at a standstill, so I parked on the shoulder, not far from the scene and ran to the site. Next to me was a cab from D.C., its windshield smashed out by pieces of lampposts. There were pieces of the plane all over the highway, pieces of wing, I think. (...) "There were a lot of people with severe burns, severe contusions, severe lacerations, in shock and emotional distress"


Fortunato wasn't there at the time of the explosion. He was at the police station.

Not a witness to aircraft nor alleged impact.





Foust, Barry (Arlington po)

Source: Media (NBC) and radio transmission

"They saw"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbUCHTbF-8g

Plane disappeared behind "treeline". Could only see the smoke afterwards above said treeline. Could not physically see final section of approach.

Couldn't physically see alleged impact.





Fowler, Charles

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Navy Capt. Charles Fowler : Navy Capt. Charles Fowler, assigned to the Joint Chiefs, was working on a speech for Gen. Henry Shelton, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, when he heard the explosion. "You could feel the building shake," said Fowler. "You knew it was a major explosion. I grabbed all my gear and grabbed the laptop and headed out." "The interesting part was we didn't hear the alarm go off, but word got around very fast. It was an orderly evacuation" Fowler's office, on the river side, appeared to be on the opposite side from the explosion, he said. "Tons of smoke was coming up from the wedge-lots of black and gray smoke."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro...p01/attack.html


Inside the building. "Heard explosion".





Fraunfelter, Dan

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

After the meeting, just before 9:30 a.m., the young engineer grabbed a subcontractor to help him repair a damaged ceiling grid on the third floor of the Pentagon's E-Ring. The two were in the middle of the job when a strange sound ripped through the room. It lasted just a split second, says Fraunfelter, "A strange sucking, whirring sound, like a loud vacuum cleaner." Then the sound stopped, the building shook violently, and the lights went out. 
http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp


Inside the building. Not a witness to the aircraft or alleged impact.





Frost, Stephen S.

Source: Media (military)

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Captain Stephen S. Frost, Medical Corps : We saw many blast injuries 
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq87-7b.htm


Wasn't there. 




Breakdown A:

There are 15 alleged witnesses.

- inside Pentagon at time of event 

- 2

- not there 

- 4

= 9

- could not physically see Pentagon 

- 2

- Foust
- Eiden

= 7

- stated that they didn't see alleged impact 

- 1

- England

= 6

- allegedly in area, could not see facade and exact POV not known 

- 2

- Elliott
- Flyler

= 4

- claimed to be watching from a window in Washington 

- 1

- Ford

= 3

= 3 who claimed to witness alleged impact

- Eberle
- El Hallan
- Elgas




Breakdown B:

15 of which are media sourced.

2 of which were called by Jeff Hill.

- Elgas
- England

1 of which was interviewed (in person) by CIT.

- England


1 of which contradicts the official "loop" west of the Potomac River/Washington

- Ford


2 of which there is photographic evidence that contradicts their testimonies.

- England
- El Hallan

1 of which whose accounts were twisted by the media

- Elgas


2 of the 4 who weren't there at the time of the event are labelled "impact witnesses"

- Evey
- Fortunato




Breakdown C:

1 of which whose entire description of allegedly seeing the aircraft is expanded around a single quoted line of  "You could almost see the people in the windows"

- Eiden

1 of which who was claimed to have seen a lightpole being struck and that debris had fallen through her sunroof and who has since categorically denied both

- Elgas

1 of which who the media has claimed, and not directly quoted, that he saw the aircraft "slam into...the structure" and that "the craft clipped a utility pole guide wire, which may have slowed it down a bit before it crashed into the building"

- Elliott

1 of which is a second hand account claiming that the person saw the aircrft "flying dangerously low overhead" when in fact when interviewed, claimed not to see anything.

- England




Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

Government

- 3

- Eberle (GOPUSA founder)
- Ford ("State Department employee")
- Elgas (FDIC on Banking Committee)

Military

- 2

- Elliott (Col.)
- Flyler (Navy contractor)

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September 6th, 2012, 7:32 pm #7

Witness G-H breakdown




Gaines, Kat

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Kat Gaines, heading south on Route 110, approached the parking lots, saw a low-flying jetliner strike the top of nearby telephone poles. 
http://www.fccc.org/News/valor.htm  


Unverified second hand media quote. 

911Myths:

Technician Kat Gaines
Fairfax County Fire & Rescue
Certificate of Valor

Gaines was on her way to a part-time job at Reagan National Airport the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, after working a 24-hour shift at Fire Station 16 in Clifton.
Her commute to the airport took her south on Route 110, in front of the parking lots of the Pentagon. As she approached the parking lots, she saw a low-flying jetliner strike the top of nearby telephone poles. She then heard the plane power up and plunge into the Pentagon.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020613210921/.../News/valor.htm


Again, more second hand reporting.

It's impossible to see lightpoles from along that stretch of road.

Route 110 which runs past the east of the Pentagon (opposite alleged impact zone - Route 27 is also highlighted to the west)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/e19bad01.jpg

Ramp road on Route 110 leading into parking on east of building:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/06074ab2.jpg

There follows a bridge and then another stretch of road. 

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/65024008.jpg

Ridiculous. No view.





Gaskins, Fred

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

"(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target," said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA TODAY near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. "It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong."


Very vague account which infers that he did not witness the alleged impact.





Gerard, Steven

Source: Media

SGYDK/NBC

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ih89_pe...eve-gerard_news

Describes a "20 passenger jet" that he saw out of the "corner of his eye".

However he is first reported as saying :

at work at the Justice Department

"Out of the corner of my eye, I saw this plane coming down. I was talking on my cell phone to my wife about how close I was to the airport and then I saw the fireball."


Allegedly at work in the Justice Department over 3km away in Washington

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...4701696d265.jpg

He saw the fireball as opposed to the plane "striking" the building. Assumption.

It's also interesting to see how certain testimonies "evolve" to fill obvious gaps or discrepancies from initial statements.





Gerson, Mike

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

"I got on Interstate 395 and saw the plane come in. I didn't see the actual impact, but 395 curves around the Pentagon, and I saw that plane coming in and said to myself, 'That plane is too low; it's going to crash.' "


George Bush speechwriter. Claims that he "didn't see the actual impact".





Goff, Dr

Source: Medical journal

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Dr Goff :"We used every aspect of our medical training that day to treat victims suffering from injuries ranging from inhalation and blast injuries to all levels of burns to emotional trauma," 
http://www.aoa-net.org/Publications/DO/pentagon1101.pdf


Wasn't there. After the fact.





Goldsmith, Gilah

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Personnel attorney at the Pentagon. When she got to her office sometime around 9, she phoned her daughter and heard "an incredible whomp noise." It didn't seem so unusual since her office is situated near a narrow area where trucks sometimes come by and hit the wall. Goldsmith was told to evacuate. "We saw a huge black cloud of smoke," she said, saying it smelled like cordite, or gun smoke.
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010921/usp14a.shtml


Inside the building. Saw neither aircraft nor alleged impact but remembered smelling "cordite, or gun smoke"





Hagos, Afework

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in." 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0...50486%2C00.html

[...]

Asework Hagos, 26, of Arlington, was driving on Columbia Pike on his way to work as a consultant for Nextel. He saw a plane flying very low and close to nearby buildings. "I thought something was coming down on me. I know this plane is going to crash. I've never seen a plane like this so low." He said he looked at it and saw American Airline insignia and when it made impact with the Pentagon initially he saw smoke, then flames.


He claims to have gotten out of his car and that people were "running away in different directions" - all within what, 2-3 seconds (official time of descent)?

Not quoted once as saying that he saw alleged impact nor did he say that he actually saw the lightpoles being struck. 

Needs further investigation.





Hammond, Cheryl

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

VIP: See Joe Harrington testimony

Cheryl Hammond was the person who called Harrington and his crew out into the parking lot. "I thought they'd put out an alert or something," Hammond said. "We saw the big American Airlines plane and started running."


"Started running". Did not see alleged impact.





Hahr, Matt

Source: Media


According to Matt Hahr, Kirlin's senior project manager at the Pentagon, the employee "was thrown about 80 ft down the hall through the air. As he was traveling through the air, he says the ceiling was coming down from the concussion. He got thrown into a closet, the door slammed shut and the fireball went past him," recounts Hahr. "Jet fuel was on him and it irritated his eyes, but he didn't get burned. . . ." 
"Saving the Pentagon, Part 1: Damage Control - Pentagon Shifts Into Higher Gear," by Victoria L. Tanner, Design·Build Web Magazine, October 2001


Third hand testimony allegedly within the building. Did not witness aircraft or alleged impact.





Harrington, Joe

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Harrington was working on the installation of new furniture in Wedge One, when he was called out to the parking lot to talk about security with his customer moments before the crash. "About two minutes later one of my guys pointed to an American Airlines airplane 20 feet high over Washington Blvd.," Harrington said. "It seemed like it made impact just before the wedge. It was like a Hollywood movie or something. "


Sketchy testimony. "It seemed like"? What did he actually see? And whereabouts in the south parking lot was he?

Cheryl Hammond (see above) was the alleged "customer" and she stated that they all "started running".





Haubold, Art

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

At about 9:20 a.m., Lt. Col. Art Haubold, a public affairs officer with air force, was in his office on the opposite side of the complex when the plane struck. "We were sitting there watching the reports on the World Trade Center. All of a sudden, the windows blew in," he said. "We could see a fireball out our window."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro...p01/attack.html


Inside building. Saw neither aircraft nor alleged impact.





Hemphill, Albert

Source: Media/CIT/Jeff Hill

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

New information regarding this guy's testimony. He had been labelled the "best SOC witness" until CIT phoned him:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...0&#entry2464894

Breakdown and attempted manipulation of his testimony by Jeff Hill here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2464894

He is an NOC witness.





Henson, Jerry

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


Pinned in his chair and wrapped in a shroud of thick smoke and darkness, Jerry Henson had almost given up hope. He could feel all his limbs, but they wouldn't move. It was as if he were frozen at his desk by forces he couldn't battle.


Inside the Pengagon. Did not witness aircraft.





Hernandez, Eugenio

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

driving northbound on I-395

"I was in my Jeep Cherokee, driving on Route 395 toward DC and listening to NPR. I saw the plane coming down."
The Washingtonian (Lexis-Nexis)


Doesn't mention anything other than seeing the aircraft.





Hey, Fred

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Congressional staff attorney Fred Hey was driving by on Route 50 at that moment. "I can't believe it! This plane is going down into the Pentagon!" he shouted into his cellphone. On the other end of the line was his boss, Rep. Bob Ney ® of Ohio. Representative Ney immediately phoned the news to House Sergeant-At-Arms Bill Livingood, who ordered an immediate evacuation of the Capitol itself.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0917/p1s1-usgn.html


Here's Route 50:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/15a378ec.jpg

He had no view of the Pentagon. Not a witness to the alleged impact.





Holland, Nicholas

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


an engineer with AMEC Construction Management of Bethesda, Md., had spent the last two years working to reinforce the walls. Two summers ago, a blast wall of reinforced steel and concrete was installed right where the plane hit. It stood for 25 minutes after it was hit before collapsing, long enough for people to escape, Holland said. 
http://www.detnews.com/2001/nation/0109/11/nation-291261.htm


Wasn't there.





Hovis, Tom

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


Being a former transport type (60's era) I cannot understand how that plane hit where it did giving the direction the aircraft was taking at the time. As most know, the Pentagon lies at the bottom of two hills from the west with the east side being next to the river at 14th street bridge. One hill is at the Navy Annex and the other is Arlington Cemetery. The plane came up I-395 also known as Shirley Hwy. (most likely used as a reference point.) The plane had been seen making a lazy pattern in the no fly zone over the White House and US Cap. Why the plane did not hit incoming traffic coming down the river from the north to Reagan Nat'l. is beyond me . Strangely, no one at the Reagan Tower noticed the aircraft. Andrews AFB radar should have also picked up the aircraft I would think. Nevertheless, the aircarft went southwest near Springfield and then veered left over Arlington and then put the nose down coming over Ft Myer picking off trees and light poles near the helicopter pad next to building. It was as if he leveled out at the last minute and put it square into the building. The wings came off as if it went through an arch way leaving a hole in the side of the building it seems a little larger than the wide body of the aircraft.


He wasn't there. He was in his office "8 miles away" when the attack occurred and was relaying what others had told him.

This was deliberately ommitted from his original e-mail by Hoffman and the source he quoted.


Date: 9/14/2001 5:50:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: thovis@mindspring.com (tom hovis)

On this day of prayer I went to the Pentagon and prayed for those Americans that died at the hands of those evil monsters.

My office is 8 miles from the site. The recovery teams working 18 hour shifts are just now getting to the body of the aircraft that went right through the outer ring at full power according to eyewitnesses.. Being a former transport type (60's era) I cannot understand how that plane hit where it did given the direction the aircraft was taking at the time.







 Hudson, Ed

Source: Media/FOX News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPthXFv4W_k

"I didn't actually see the impact..I saw the smoke"


Claims to have been passing Fort Myer towards the Navy Annex which is to the North.

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/6292cbf5.jpg





 Hunt, Bob

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"In office when the explosion at the Pentagon occurred."


"I talked to a number of average people in route who said they saw the plane hovering over the Washington Mall Area at an altitude lower that the height of the Washington Monument" Hunt stated.


Inside Pentagon. Though his second hand accounts contradict the official path which doesn't go over Washington:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/361d485f.jpg





Hurst, Joe

Oval Room restaurant at Lafayette Square

"I saw it go overhead, the plane."
Boston Globe (Lexis Nexis - Brian McGrory)


Oval Room Restaurant, Lafayette Square, DC:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/aa936221.jpg

Needs further investigation.




Breakdown A:

There are 20 alleged witnesses.

- inside Pentagon at time of event 

- 4

- not there 

- 4

= 12

- stated that they didn't see alleged impact 

- 2

- Gerson
- Hudson

= 10

- could not physically see Pentagon 

- 1

- Hey

= 9

- second hand account

- 1

- Gaines (also impossible story from alleged vantage point)

= 8

- vague testimonies 

- 4

- Hernandez
- Hurst (saw plane overhead in Washington)
- Hagos
- Gaskins

= 4

- could not physically see alleged impact zone and whose testimony and POV need to be verified 

- 2

- Harrington
- Hammond 

*Hammond claims that she and those with her, which includes Harrington,"started running"

= 2 alleged impact witnesses

- Gerard (initially claimed to see fireball)
- Hemphill (NOC)





Breakdown B

20 alleged witnesses

19 of which are media sourced.

1 of which was an e-mail

2 of which were contacted by Jeff Hill

- Hemphill
- Hovis

1 of which was contacted by CIT

- Hemphill

1 of which is a verified NOC witness

- Hemphill

1 of which is an over the Navy Annex witness

- Hemphill

2 of which give second hand accounts of the aircraft being seen over Washington contradicting the official "loop" west of the Potomac River/Washington.

- Hovis
- Hunt

1 of which claims to have actually seen the aircraft over Washington.

- Hurst

2 of which described "ducking/diving/physical reaction to the blast"

- Hemphill ("I instinctively ducked at the extremely loud roar and whine of a jet engine spooling up...felt the shockwave...knocking me against the desk")


- Hammond ("We saw the big American Airlines plane and started running.")

 
1 of which claimed to smell "cordite/gunsmoke"

- Goldsmith

1 of which questioned the alleged crash scenario

- Hovis





Breakdown C:

1 of which whose alleged testimony is completely second hand and is not directly quoted once

- Gaines

1 of which the media insinuate that the witness actually saw the alleged impact

"He said he looked at it and saw American Airline insignia and when it made impact with the Pentagon initially he saw smoke, then flames."

- Hagos

1 is an alleged cellphone call between Fred Hey and former corrupt politician Bob Ney (who it's alleged was indirectly responsible for the evacuation of the Capitol) from an area where the Pentagon can't be seen:

"This plane is going down into the Pentagon!" 

- Hey

1 of the alleged witnesses who wasn't actually there during the event but is labelled an "impact witness" by Jeff Hill

- Hovis





Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

Government

- 3

- Gerard (Justice Department)
- Gerson (George Bush speechwriter)
- Hey (Congressional Staff Attorney)

Military

- 1

- Hemphill (Missile Defence Agency Assistant Director for Agency Operations)

Media

- 2

- Hernandez (AP video journalist)
- Gaskins (National Editor USA Today)
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Witness I-J breakdown





Ingledue, Jim

Source: Media

"They Saw"

Capt. Jim Ingledue, shift safety officer of the Virginia Beach Fire Dept, said Monday he found amidst the rubble at the Pentagon, two days after 9/11, the perfectly clean and unblemished California ID card of Suzanne Calley, 42, one of the alleged victims killed aboard Flight 77.


Is not a witness.





James, Michael and Isabelle

Source:Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Michael James, 37, a Navy information technician watched in horror from his car Tuesday as an airplane careened off a helicopter pad and smashed into the side of the Pentagon, where he spends about half of his day.

"I was supposed to be in the Pentagon underneath all that rubble," said James, pressed into service directing gawkers away from a road leading to the compound. "If it would have happened 10 minutes later, I would have been down there." 

He is often in the lower Corridor 4 offices of the Navy telecommucations 
center around 6 a.m., but Tuesday he was away taking a physical fitness 
exam. 

"The plane came over the top of us and brushed the trees, " he said. 
"Then it looked like it hit the helicopter pad and skipped up and went right into the first and second floors." [...]

Rocky Mountain News (Lexis-Nexis - M. E. Sprengelmeyer)


Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2042287

"we were driving down Columbia Pike and it just shrew right over us...we heard this crash and saw this huge fireball... we didn't have time to see anything plus with the trees..I didn't see any markings...the trees...the treeline (blocked our view).

Isabelle James

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=89...625901088&hl=nl


These people had no view or at least no clear view, from the road they were allegedly driving on according to statements made by his wife and passenger Isabelle.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/fo30.jpg





Jarvis, Will

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Jarvis, who was around the corner from the disaster, tried but failed to see the plane when he left the building. "There was just nothing left. It was incinerated. We couldn't see a tail or a wing or anything," he says. "Just a big black hole in the building with smoke pouring out of it." For someone sitting only 300 metres away from the carnage of American Airlines Flight 77, Jarvis and his officemates were surprisingly well insulated from it. "We thought the plane was a dump truck backing into the building, because there was a lot of construction going on,"


Inside building. Is not a witness to the aircraft nor the alleged impact. Questions site of an alleged aircraft impact.





Johnson, Megan

Source: Media

"They Saw"

"'Today is my worst day yet,' said Megan Johnson of Bristow, Va., yesterday. She was on Interstate 395 when the terrorist plane flew directly in front of her car into the Pentagon.


Second hand account. Media embellishment added to her alleged words - "Today is my worst day yet". Meaningless and unconfirmed.





Jones, Eric

Source: Media

"They Saw" 

was driving through nearby Arlington, Va., when he saw the plane slam into the Pentagon's northwest outer wall.


Second hand account.

In the days after the event he is alleged to have said:

"I am a volunteer firefighter who happened to be driving near the Pentagon when the plane crashed into it. I stopped the car and ran to the site."


He doesn't mention seeing the aircraft before the explosion. Nor the alleged "impact".


CROWLEY: "A volunteer firefighter and grad student at George Washington university, Eric Jones was headed to class when he saw the smoke, pulled into the Pentagon parking lot and ran into the fiery building."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0209/11/se.37.html



The latter second hand testimony points to him seeing the "smoke" and not the aircraft or alleged impact. 





Joyce, Tom

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Tom Joyce, a Navy captain, was reading at his desk on the fifth floor in the building's fifth wing, when the plane hit. The impact knocked him out of his chair. "The whole building shook," Captain Joyce said. "Smoke started coming into the building."
http://www.americanmemorials.com/memorial/...ontributor=7466


Was inside the building. Was not a witness to the aircraft nor alleged impact.




Breakdown A:

There are 7 alleged witnesses.

- inside Pentagon at time of event 

- 2

- not there 

- 1

= 4

- vague and/or second hand testimonies 

- 2

- Jones (saw "smoke")
- Johnson  ("worst day of my life" - that's it)

= 2

- inferred that they could not physically see alleged impact zone 

- 2

- Isabelle and Michael James





Breakdown B:

There are 7 alleged witnesses

7 of which are media sourced.


1 of which questions the alleged crash site

"There was just nothing left. It was incinerated. We couldn't see a tail or a wing or anything,"

- Jarvis





Breakdown C:

1 of which the media attribute the phrase "he saw the plane slam into the Pentagon's northwest outer wall" when he neither states nor infers this

- Jones

1 of which the media attribute the phrase "watched an airplane careen off a helipad and smash into the side of the Pentagon" when it was actually an assumption according to his co passenger, and wife, Isabelle James' testimony:

- James (Michael)

1 of which the phrase "the terrorist plane flew directly in front of her car into the Pentagon" is wrapped around a single phrase allegedly attributed to her which is "this is the worst day of my life"

- Johnson





Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

Military

- 1

- James (Navy Info Technician)
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Witness K-L breakdown




Kaiser, Andrea

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Arlington County Fire Department Fire Truck 101

"As I was driving down 95 heading towards the Pentagon, one of my members, teammates, said, 'What is that plane doing?' And by the time I looked up, the plane was moving so fast all I saw was an explosion."

ABC Good Morning America (Lexis-Nexis)


Steve McCoy, the fire captain on the same fire engine is on record as saying

 Fire Captain Steve McCoy and his crew are traveling north on Interstate 395 in ACFD Engine 101, for a training session in Crystal City. McCoy reportedly sees “a commercial airliner in steep descent, banking sharply to its right before disappearing beyond the horizon,” followed by “a tremendous explosion” and “a massive plume of smoke and fire.” He immediately radioes ECC and reports, “We got a plane down, it looks like in the Crystal City area by the 14th Street Bridge.” Being aware of the attacks on the World Trade Center, he advises that the FBI should be notified, as this is a possible terrorist attack


14th Street Bridge:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/3e07aadf.jpg

Could not physically see the alleged impact zone. Not a witness to the alleged impact.





Kean, Terrance

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


Terrance Kean, 35, who lives in a 14-story building nearby, heard the loud jet engines and glanced out his window. 

"I saw this very, very large passenger jet," said the architect, who had been packing for a move. 
"It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere. . . . It was very sort of surreal."


This alleged witness has never repeated this story and cannot be found for an interview (if he exists at all). 

Strange thing is that this alleged "architect" described the west face of the Pentagon as having a "portico" (in that this is where he described seeing the "nose penetrate[d]").

This is a "portico"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...co_Building.jpg

And the only portico is on the opposite side from where the explosion occurred:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/0bee0a2f.jpg

Contradictory, basically anonymous account that needs to be confirmed.





Keglovich, James

Source: Media

SGYDK

She said her brother, James Keglovich, 38, a carpenter working near the Pentagon, was on break across the street from that structure when the airliner tore into the building. He and his friends witnessed the plane approaching. 

He told her they began exclaiming, "Where's he going? What's he doing?" when suddenly they saw the plane clip a taxi cab on the nearby bridge. The crash was exceptionally loud, he said. It shook the building and knocked people down who were closer to the point of impact.


Totally fabricated media piece on a third hand account!

Why has this witness never been brought forward to back up Lloyd England's story? Nobody saw the cab being speared. Nobody apart from Lloyd. 
The fact that the reporter quoted this alleged witness' sister as saying that the plane "clip[ped] a taxi cab" points to embellishment. If this were confirmed detractors and the media would have been scrambling to bring him forward as back-up to Lloyd's story.

This is his sister's alleged account of what he allegedly said, reported by a media that has been found out many times twisting the words of multiple alleged "witnesses" around the Pentagon that morning.

He allegedly "told her" that he saw the plane's approach.

The reporter makes the claim that this alleged witness saw the plane "hit".

No dice.





Kelly, Lesley

Source: E mail to media

SGYDK

"On Sept. 11, I was standing in a break room of an office . . . in downtown D.C., when I looked out the window to see an airplane descend into the side of the Pentagon"
http://web.archive.org/web/20021218082116/...72536213280.xml


Another alleged "window witness" miles away in DC. Opposite the alleged impact side. He/she couldn't physically see the Pentagon basin. He/she couldn't see the west side of the Pentagon. Maybe he/she saw the aircraft at height but until we know his/her exact POV we can't tell.

An idea of the view from DC is discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2227141





Khavkin, D. S.

Source: E mail to media

from an 8th floor high-rise: "At first, we thought it was the jets that sometimes fly overhead. However, it appeared to be a small commercial aircraft..."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_p...000/1540586.stm


This unconfirmed e-mail/media report is discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=1961581

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2044349





Kirk, Mark Steven

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Rep. Mark Steven Kirk (R-Ill.), a Naval Reserve intelligence officer. ''Apparently, the fire killed everybody in there,'' said Kirk, shortly after he learned that two friends perished in the center. Kirk also went to the site. ''The first thing you smell is the burning. And then you can smell the aviation fuel. And then you can smell this sickly, rotten-meat smell,'' he said."


Wasn't there. Not a witness.





Kizildrgli, Aydan

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Kizildrgli, while driving by the Pentagon, "saw the jetliner bank slightly"
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/0...attack-usat.htm


Another example of Hoffman's site playing with the reported media snippet. What this guy is allegedly quoted as saying can be seen in its full context when the entire snippet is read.

Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that? Nobody could believe it.'


Apart from the fact that it's an unconfirmed account, there's a disconnect between allegedly seeing the plane "bank slightly" and the "big boom".





Kopf, Peter

Source: Media/Jeff Hill

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Peter Kopf, director of information technology at USA TODAY, was stalled in traffic about 9:30 a.m. when the jet hit the Pentagon, creating a 
"huge fireball."
"People (on the highway) were freaking out," he said. "People were turning around and driving the opposite way getting out of their cars, talking on cell phones, crying."


This witness doesn't decribe the path or where he was on Route 27.

10 years after his story was printed he was phoned by Jeff Hill (who has had extremely good luck in contacting these people). He uses a leading technique to reinforce what he wants them to say:

http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/CI...Statement/#hill

He concentrated on the "conspiracy nuts are saying that..." line and then consciously avoiding the question as to where the witness was and where they saw the aircraft. That a claim to seeing an "impact" is enough. Why? Because he has singlehandedly pointed out at least 3 more NOC witnesses in the pursuit of an "SOC (official path) witness"!

Kopf has since changed his original story from seeing a "huge fireball" into seeing the alleged impact itself. Why did his co-workers at USA Today fail to seize on it if this were the case? Why just mention the "huge fireball"?

Why is it important to ascertain where he allegedly was on the road that morning? And whether he actually saw the aircraft make contact with the facade?

When he claims to have been stuck in traffic on Route 27, he has to be between the area of lightpole 1 and the "impact area" itself to have any sort of "clear view". In fact, he has to be between lightpole 1 and lightpole 5 IF the aircraft was on the official path.

http://i51.tinypic.com/jr74g8.jpg

He couldn't be behind the overhead sign beside lightpole 1 because there were trees blocking the view of the Pentagon facade.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...waltertrees.jpg

Here's a video taken the same morning from the area in question (before the overhead sign) that show 3 lanes of traffic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrSUHbMhJo

Which lane was he in? 

If he was beyond the overhead sign, the aircraft would have flown right over his head. He doesn't describe that. He doesn't claim that is was a matter of feet in front of his car. So where was he and where did he see the aircraft pass over Route 27?

Details that Jeff Hill purposely avoids.





Krohn, Charles H.

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

One of the aircraft's engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon's mall parking area between the main building and the new loading dock facility, said Charles H. Krohn, the Army's deputy chief of public affairs. Those fleeing the building heard a loud secondary explosion about 10 min. after the initial impact.


This "engine" has never been shown or identified. Even if it were true, how could it possibly get to the "mall parking"? 

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/8ae911bc.jpg

Krohn doesn't mention seeing the plane. He is not a witness to the flightpath.





Krug, Ann

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Ann Krug's kindergarten class saw the plane crash outside the classroom's window. "I actually pointed it out and said: 'Look at this plane; look at how low it's flying,' " Krug recalled. "And then we all saw it come down."

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/rjhymel.htm


Hoffman-Boston Elementary School:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/8342bd56.jpg

The section of motorway adjacent to the school here:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/f02c2cfa.jpg

The view from this section of motorway to garner an idea of the view from the school. The Navy Annex can be seen beside the tall three pronged sculpture (USAF Memorial)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/e715a74d.jpg

There is no view whatsoever of the basin of land where the Pentagon is. The descent as the aircraft flew over the Navy Annex can be seen but nothing after that. The school is also just two floors in height.

The reporter embellished Ms Krug's testimony with "[the] kindergarten class saw the plane crash outside the classroom's window"





Lagasse, Sgt. William

Source: Media/CIT

...a pentagon police dog handler, the son of an aviation instructor, was filling up his patrol car at a gas station near the Pentagon when he noticed a jet fly in low. He watched as the plane plowed into the Pentagon. Initially, he thought the plane was about to drop on top of him -- it was that close. Lagasse knew something was wrong. The 757's flaps were not deployed and the landing gear was retracted. 
http://206.181.245.163/ebird/e20011108vivid.htm


One of the witnesses interviewed by CIT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKov_UZDQE

A clear NOC witness even though he claims that the aircraft allegedly impacted.

Before his NOC testimony was established, it was repeatedly pointed out that he (and his father) had aviation experience and is now portrayed by detractors as a "liar", even though another police officer corroborated his account from an area just behind the Citgo Gas Station (seen in the video linked to).





Le Grand, La Verne

Source: Media

"They Saw"

"It's a horrible feeling because you're afraid all the time. You're afraid to go out," said District resident La Verne Le Grand, 60, who was riding in a car on Columbia Pike on the morning of September 11 and saw the plane crash into the Pentagon. Since then, she has been admitted twice to Washington Hospital Center for treatment of severe anxiety.


"It's a horrible feeling because you're afraid all the time. You're afraid to go out." 

That's it. The reporter added the "plane crash" statement. 





Leibner, Lincoln

Source: Media/CIT

This was one of my first posts at the CIT forum (it's a bit amateurish but the info is solid)

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=728

The video interview has been 404ed (though I believe CIT have downloaded it somewhere). He was asked by the interviewer where he was and where he saw the plane. This gif shows that he is describing where he allegedly was and from what direction he allegedly saw the aircraft approach. Certainly not the official path.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/test3.gif

"The aircraft went in between the second and third floors." 

He also originally claimed that the aircraft struck a helicopter on the helipad (which didn't happen)

Captain Liebner says the aircraft struck a helicopter on the helipad, setting fire to a fire truck.


It's second hand, but he's never denied this statement.

His story has morphed over the years. He went from describing the scenario where he saw a "helicopter" being struck, to the aircraft "enter[ing] the building like a toy into a birthday cake"

He was allegedly at the southwest corner of the Pentagon where there were a collection of tall, bushy trees on 9/11

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...50aa226e6e2.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...5a44cb7a187.jpg

And the scenario where he could stand there and watch the alleged impact and explosion without flinching is ridiculous.

On a side note, the official trajectory of the aircraft would have seen the entry point on to the lawn where the white trailers can be seen in the last image above. Leibner claimed to be standing at the southwest corner of the building walking towards the bridge.

And he described this flightpath:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/test3.gif

NOC.





Leonard, Robert

Source: Media/Jeff Hill

...driving northbound in the HOV lanes on I-395

His car passed the crest of the hill, at the point where Washington comes fully into view and the Pentagon is on the left
[...] "I looked in the rearview mirror to check the traffic and saw only a plane, flying very low. I followed it in my left outside mirror. I braked, looked out my left window and saw a large commercial aircraft aiming for the Pentagon." "The aircraft, so close to the ground, was banked skillfully to the right, leveled off perpendicular to the Pentagon's southwest side, then went full throttle directly toward the building. The plane vanished, absorbed by the building, and there was a slight pause. Then a huge fireball rose into the sky."

-The Washington Post


•  Robert Leonard: “I … saw a large commercial aircraft aiming for the Pentagon.”
http://www.america.gov/st/webchat-english/...l#ixzz22QlvdsoL


This alleged witness was contacted by Jeff Hill just after he had stopped asking witnesses which flightpath the aircraft took as he was finding the same pattern that CIT consistently found. That nobody was describing the official path. This one slipped through the net:



ROBERT LEONARD:  I saw it in my rear-view mirror of my car and then I saw it out the left uh driver's side window.  And um, it had gone over the interstate 395 that I was on, and um went, um to the area just kind of near where the Air Force Memorial is now, a little bit lower down the hill and um banked to the right, and um it put its engines at full throttle and then went, it was uh, it was, would be directly perpendicular to the wall of the Pentagon and um it just went full speed right into the Pentagon.

JEFF HILL:  So like the Air Force Memorial that's like, so it would have went over the Navy Annex I guess?

ROBERT LEONARD:  No it didn't go that far up um as the Navy Annex, it was like, it was below actually where the Air Force Memorial is.

HILL:   Uh huh.  And so like, and you seen it like...

LEONARD:  There used to be like, some kind of a gas station there, it went to that point.

HILL: Yeah yeah yeah that Citgo gas station so it would have flew over that or?

LEONARD:  It was over that when it um, banked sharply to the right.

HILL: And did you happen to see it hit those light poles?

LEONARD:  Um no I didn't see that, I think the, you see I didn't read about the incident, it's only what I witnessed, but um the light poles I think were on 395 because the plane was just um, just behind my car almost over it.


HILL:   Mhm and did you see that taxi cab at all that was hit by a light pole?

LEONARD:  No that would have been behind me.

HILL:  Oh yeah yeah? So it was like uh, where that, where that memorial is now in front of the Navy Annex.  It would have, I'm trying to understand what you mean when...

LEONARD:  Just the memorial would have been below what the path of the plane.

HILL: So like, I don't, what do you mean like below?

LEONARD:  When the plane banked to the right say over to the Citgo station and then headed toward the Pentagon, the um memorial, which I haven't visited, um would have been below the plane's route.

HILL:   So like below, meaning the plane was over it or?

LEONARD:  Yeah the plane was over it.


LEONARD:  It banked, you see it banked and because I was seeing it in slow motion it appeared as if it stopped over the Citgo gas station as it was making like almost a right angle turn, and um that's when it revved its engines up to full speed and like started its charge towards the Pentagon.


He doesn't describe seeing, nor can he physically see, the alleged impact zone.
In both his media and Hill's account, he's describing a sharp right bank (and mentions the Citgo gas station in Hill's phonecall) which contradicts the necessary level flightpath to line up with the directional damage.





Lyman, Mary

Source: Media

911Myths



"I was driving northbound to work in the District on I-395 when the Pentagon was hit. I actually saw the plane in front of me, coming in at a very steep angle toward the ground and going fast -- I think I actually heard it accelerate -- and then it disappeared and a cloud of smoke started billowing.
Traffic stopped dead, of course; I was within sight of the first Washington Boulevard exit at that point. We sat there for about 45 minutes, pulling over to the side so emergency vehicles could get through. Most of us got out of our cars, walked around and talked to each other, comparing notes on what we'd heard and trying (mostly unsuccessfully) to reach people on our cellphones.
Police eventually made us get back in our cars and turn around, going back the wrong way down the highway. I got off at the Glebe Road exit (moving down the up ramp)...
The Washington Post, September 16 2001

Earlier, Mary Lyman, 47, of Alexandria, had been driving on the same highway, passing the Pentagon on her way to her job as a lobbyist in Washington. She witnessed the crash.
"I saw a plane coming what I thought was toward National Airport, which is very close. You see that all the time," said Lyman, an Andover native. "But this one looked different. It was at a very steep angle, and going very fast.
"I had been hearing about the World Trade Center before I left, and wondered, is this part of that? Then the plane disappeared, smoke started coming up, and traffic came to a complete stop," Lyman said. "We all got out of our cars. We heard another couple of explosions, and I ran and got back in my car."
"The police came and had us drive back the wrong way on the highway."
The Boston Globe, September 12 2001


States that she didn't and couldn't see alleged impact.




Breakdown A:

There are 15 alleged witnesses.

- not there 

- 2

= 13

- vague and/or second hand 

- 2

- Kizildrgli
- Laverne (doesn't mention anything at all about event)

- second hand account 

- 1

- Keglovich (third hand - not quoted once)

= 10

- could not see Pentagon 

- 2

- Kaiser
- Krug

= 8

- in area, could not see alleged impact area from stated position 

- 2

- Leonard
- Khavkin

= 6

- stated that they didn't/couldn't see alleged impact 

- 1

- Lyman

= 5

- alleged "window witness" in Washington 

- 1

- Kelly

= 4 alleged impact witnesses

- Lagasse
- Kean
- Kopf
- Leibner

2 of which changed their initial story

- Liebner
- Kopf




Breakdown B:

15 alleged witnesses.

13 of which are media sourced.

2 of which are e mails.

3 of which have been phoned by Jeff Hill.

- Kopf
- Leibner (possible NOC)
- Leonard (NOC)

1 of which has been interviewed in person by CIT.

- Lagasse (NOC)

2 of which are confirmed NOC

- Lagasse
- Leonard

1 of which is possible NOC

- Liebner

1 of which describes a sharp right bank

- Leonard ("right angle")





Breakdown C:

1 of which is completely third hand and the reporter attributes the phrase "they saw the plane clip a taxi cab" to somebody that isn't quoted once.

- Keglovich

1 of which is media disinfo/embellishment adding the phrase "saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building"

- Kizildrgli

1 of which is media disinfo adding the second hand phrase "Ann Krug's kindergarten class saw the plane crash outside the classroom's window"

- Krug

1 of which is media disinfo/embellishment claiming that the witness described seeing  "the plane crash into the Pentagon" when all that they are quoted as saying is "It's a horrible feeling because you're afraid all the time. You're afraid to go out" 

- La Verne

1 of which is a completely second hand account claiming that the witness saw
"one of the aircraft's engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon's mall parking area"

- Krohn

1 of which the media embellishes the testimony refarding the alleged impact.
"She witnessed the crash"

- Lyman





Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

Military

- 2

- Kelly (Retired Commander US Navy)
- Liebner (Executive Support Officer for Donald Rumsfeld)

Media

- 1

- Kopf (Director of Information Technology, USA Today)

Government

- 2

- Lyman (lobbyist)
- Lagasse (DPS - Pentagon Police)


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Witness M-N breakdown



 M. K.

Source: anonymous E mail

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Anonymous and unconfirmed (another anonymous e mail to BBC - why the BBC if the alleged witness lives in Pentagon City?)




M., Rick

Source: Message board

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Anonymous and unconfirmed. 




M.J.

Source: Message board

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Anonymous and unconfirmed. If CIT pulled these alleged witnesses out of the woodwork they would be laughed at. How can anonymous testimony be compared to recorded one on one interviews that CIT have carried out? It can't.




 Marra, David

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


David Marra, 23, an information-technology specialist, had turned his BMW off an I-395 exit to the highway just west of the Pentagon when he saw an American Airlines jet swooping in, its wings wobbly, looking like it was going to slam right into the Pentagon: 

"It was 50 ft. off the deck when he came in. It sounded like the pilot had the throttle completely floored. The plane rolled left and then rolled right. Then he caught an edge of his wing on the ground." 

There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cartwheeled into the building.


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...74655-4,00.html


This guy's exact POV has never been found. The aircraft did not "cartwheel" and the Pentagon lawn was not marked by the "wing".

In fact the "cartwheel" statement isn't made by Marra but added by the journalist.





Martinez, Oscar

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"I saw a big jet flying close to the building coming at full speed. There was a big noise when it hit the building,'' said Oscar Martinez, who witnessed the attack.


What "building"? Martinez describes hearing the explosion. That's it. Not a witness based on yet another ambiguous (and basically anonymous) media quote.





Mason, Don

Source: ASCE Report

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=841

Not once is this guy directly quoted. It was a second hand account penned by the ASCE report.
The link above compares his alleged testimony compared to another ASCE "witness account". That of Frank Probst, who describes anything but an "SOC approach"





McAdams, Daniel and Cynthia

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Two other witnesses, Daniel McAdams and his wife, Cynthia, said they were sitting in their kitchen drinking coffee in their third-floor condominium in Arlington, Va., just two miles from the Pentagon when they heard a plane fly directly overhead around 9:45 a.m. It was unusually loud and low. Seconds later, they heard a big boom and felt the doors and windows of their three-story building shake. From their window, they could see a plume of black smoke coming from the Pentagon..


Not witnesses to aircraft or alleged impact.





McClain, Tom

Source: E mail

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Lt Col (ret) Tom McClain :"I saw the remains of the engines in the North parking lot of the Pentagon as well as melted aluminum and other debris left from the aircraft. "
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/penta...l_20020316.html


Did not witness flight of aircraft. Again with the unidentified parts and alleged engine in North Parking.





McClellan, Kenneth

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

The C-130 pilot 'followed the aircraft and reported it was heading into the Pentagon,' he said. 'He saw it crash into the building. He saw the fireball.


McClellan is a Pentagon spokesman and is not a witness. What he reported is actually false as well:

"I distinctly remember having a difficult time keeping the AA flight in sight after we turned back to the east to follow it per a request from Wash. Departure Control.   When I saw the initial explosion I was not able to see exactly where or what it had impacted, but remember trying to approximate a position to give to ATC.  It was then that I was able to see the sun reflecting off the Potomac and the runway at Wash. Nat'l and thought to myself that the AA flight must have had some sort of IFE (in flight emergency) and was trying to make it back to National Airport."
-C-130 Pilot Lt Col Steve O'Brien via email to Pilots for 9/11 Truth







McCoy, Steve

Source: Media


 
 fire captain on fire engine 101

Fire Captain Steve McCoy and his crew are traveling north on Interstate 395 in ACFD Engine 101, for a training session in Crystal City. McCoy reportedly sees “a commercial airliner in steep descent, banking sharply to its right before disappearing beyond the horizon,” followed by “a tremendous explosion” and “a massive plume of smoke and fire.” He immediately radioes ECC and reports, “We got a plane down, it looks like in the Crystal City area by the 14th Street Bridge.” Being aware of the attacks on the World Trade Center, he advises that the FBI should be notified, as this is a possible terrorist attack


14th Street Bridge:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/3e07aadf.jpg

Could not physically see the alleged impact zone. Not a witness to the alleged impact.





McCusker, Elaine

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon as the road winds and we line up to cross the 14th Street bridge heading into the District of Columbia. I don't know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just 'No, no, no, no,' because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash." 
http://depts.washington.edu/uweek/archives.../_article9.html


Elaine McCusker: co-chair of the Coalition for National Security Research 

http://ora.ra.cwru.edu/cwru_research_newsletter_may_2002.htm

14th Street Bridge:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/3e07aadf.jpg

Where was she? If she saw the aircraft, she couldn't have been beyond Route 27 on the I-395 motorway that runs past the Pentagon towards the 14th Street Bridge.

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/888dbc85.jpg

In the extended media piece she says

Fire trucks started to appear so I and others on the road tried to move out of the way.


Were there firetrucks arriving along this section of motorway?

Her alleged POV needs to be established but her "it was going to crash" statement indicates that she had no view.

These are the views from the passenger seat along that stretch of highway

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mer...xit_008c_01.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mer...xit_008c_02.jpg

Remember, and this is crucial (and usually ignored by detractors), she is on record, as are multiple witnesses in this area, as saying that there was heavy traffic. the images above are of a virtually clear road.

Either way, her testimony is ambiguous and is most certainly open to bias.





McGraw, Stephen

Source: Media/CIT/Jeff Hill

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars." McGraw estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon. "The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car. "I saw it crash into the building," he said. "My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing. I mean in the sense that it was controlled and sort of straight. That was my impression," he said. "There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact. I remember seeing a fireball come out of two windows (of the Pentagon). I saw an explosion of fire billowing through those two windows.


On closer inspection, this guy's testimony isn't as clear cut as what was printed.

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2465249

Transcript of McGraw to Aldo

http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2363

He was initially labelled a "lightpole witness" until asked for details. His description of where he allegedly was on Route 27 place him on the NOC entry point on to the road. The official speed would have the event over in less than half a second.





McNair, Phil

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Crawling, McNair turned toward the E Ring. The heat grew even fiercer, and as he neared the door to the corridor he saw bright orange through the crack along its bottom. He reversed course, yelling, "We've got to get out the other way.''


Inside the Pentagon. Did not witness flight of aircraft.





Mencl, Peggy

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Inside a courtyard deep inside the Pentagon, program analyst Peggy Mencl (cq) heard the blast. "The doors blew out and debris just came flying out from the doors," Mencl said. "It blew me 10 feet." She was uninjured but still had debris in her hair. 
http://www.detnews.com/2001/nation/0109/11...ion-291261.htm 
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news01/091..._dcscene.shtml 
http://maninut.com/patriotic_sites/tribute.htm


Inside the building. Not a witness to the aircraft or alleged impact.





Middleton Sr, William

Source: CMH interview/CIT

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

The worker, William Middleton Sr., was running his street sweeper through the cemetery when he heard a harsh whistling sound overhead. Middleton looked up and spotted a commercial jet whose pilot seemed to be fighting with his own craft. Middleton said the plane was no higher than the tops of telephone poles as it lurched toward the Pentagon. The jet accelerated in the final few hundred yards before it tore into the building.
http://www.s-t.com/daily/12-01/12-20-01/a02wn018.htm


William Middleton is an NOC witness interviewed by CIT

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=365

http://www.thepentacon.com/Topic11.htm


@36mins onwards

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1904445818116873233

A: In between the cemetery, and the Naval Annex.

Q2: There's that road, you know, that goes up to Fort Meyer, that other entrance.

[...]

Q: Wait, let me ask you for that. You said you saw it circling. Like, where was it circling?

A: Right about here. Right over...

Q: Like halfway up?

A: Right here. It wasn't that high up.


Q: Ok.

A: And it was going around.

Q: Going around.

A: Right. Like it was coming around through the pattering, to go over to National Airport.

Q: How long, how long did you see it circling for? Like, estimate.

A: Um, 'bout five minutes. It took about five minutes for it to go around.

Q: Oh, so it was a few minutes. You saw it--- Oh, ok.


[...]

A: He kicked the throttle. When I looked, went straight into the building.

[...]

A: On the north side of the Navy Annex. It was coming straight down the middle of the street. I don't know what was goin' on. And as it come past me, it was dropping. And you could...

[...]

A: That's--- It came right over the parking lot.


The path he drew:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...dletonpath1.jpg

And (his would-be view of the official path):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giX1a1qnL_w

Middleton not only describes the NOC flightpath, but the East of Potomac (Washington) flightpath that contradicts the official loop that doesn't cross the river:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/361d485f.jpg

Discussed here:

http://www.thepentacon.com/TheEastSideClaim.htm

He mentions the aircraft going "straight into the building" but he had a very limited view of the alleged impact area:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5305/middletonpov.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9835/mi...povpentagon.png

An obvious and perfectly natural assumption





Milburn, Kirk

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html


"I was right underneath the plane," said Kirk Milburn, a construction supervisor for Atlantis Co., who was on the Arlington National Cemetery exit of Interstate 395 when he said he saw the plane heading for the Pentagon. "I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles," said Milburn. "It was like a WHOOOSH whoosh, then there was fire and smoke, then I heard a second explosion." - (Washington Post, September 11, 2001) - 
http:// www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html


Witnessed aircraft but couldn't physically see nor did he describe seeing, the alleged impact.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/b...ket/ancexit.jpg

Along the stretch of road beyond where Milburn described:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mer...xit_008c_01.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mer...xit_008c_02.jpg





Mitchell, Terry

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"This is a hole in -- there was a punch-out. They suspect that this was where a part of the aircraft came through this hole, although I didn't see any evidence of the aircraft down there. (...) This pile here is all Pentagon metal. None of that is aircraft whatsoever. As you can see, they've punched a hole in here. This was punched by the rescue workers to clean it out. You can see this is the -- some of the unrenovated areas where the windows have blown out. "


I didn't see any evidence of the aircraft down there


Wasn't there. Not a witness. 





Mitchell, Mitch

Source: Media

SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2220263

Aside from his contradictory testimony, he claims solely to have "heard" and "felt" the explosion but not to have actually seen the alleged impact.





Moody, Sheila

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

Sheila Moody, in Room 472, heard a whoosh and a whistle and she wondered where all this air was coming from. Then a blast of fire that left as fast as it came


Inside the building. Is not a witness to aurcraft or alleged impact.





Morin, Terry

Source: Media/CIT

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

 
"I could now only see the tail of the aircraft. I believe I saw the tail dip slightly to the right indicating a minor turn in that direction. The tail was barely visible when I saw the flash and subsequent fireball rise approximately 200 feet above the Pentagon. There was a large explosion noise and the low frequency sound echo that comes with this type of sound. Associated with that was the increase in air pressure, momentarily, like a small gust of wind. For those formerly in the military, it sounded like a 2000lb bomb going off roughly 1/2 mile in front of you.


CIT interviewed Terry Morin:

http://www.vimeo.com/4082576

He's unquestionably an "over the Navy Annex" witness.

The significance of which is discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=1228

His testimony is discussed here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...dpost&p=2464913

He couldn't physically see the alleged impact area.





Mosley, James

Source: University online board

James Mosley, four stories up on a scaffold at the Navy Annex, " ... I looked over and saw this big silver plane run into the side of the Pentagon"
http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/admin_dept/ex...ptember11-2.pdf


This report definitely needs to be confirmed. An alleged witness with an alleged view "four stories up on a scaffold at the Navy Annex" and the media post these few words??

Where was the "scaffold"?

Just after explosion @09:45am:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/56afac2c.jpg

These images run the length of the Navy Annex at @10:20am that morning:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/0aeedada.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/56664141.jpg





Munsey, Christopher

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"A silver, twin-engine American Airlines jetliner gliding almost noiselessly over the Navy Annex, fast, low and straight toward the Pentagon, just hundreds of yards away. It was a nightmare coming to life. The plane, with red and blue markings, hurtled by and within moments exploded in a ground-shaking "whoomp" as it appeared to hit the side of the Pentagon. A huge flash of orange flame and black smoke poured into the sky. Smoke seemed to change from black to white, forming a billowing column in the sky."
http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-467181.php


From his description of events ("hurtled by"), he has passed the Pentagon on the I-395 motorway that runs along beside the south parking lot to the bottom of the following overhead image:

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u422/c...tu/37cf4970.jpg

Given that he claims that the aircraft "appear[ed] to hit the side of the Pentagon" and lack of description we can deduce that he is not a witness to an alleged impact.





Murphy, Peter

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

At that instant, a tremendous explosion with what Mr. Murphy said was a noise "louder than any noise he had ever heard" shook the room. Mr. Murphy, who had been standing with his back to the window, was knocked entirely across the room


Inside the Pentagon. Not a witness.





Myers, Richard

Source: Media

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

General Richard Myers, vice-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that before the crash into the Pentagon, military officials had been notified that another hijacked plane had been heading from the New York area to Washington. 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0...50486%2C00.html


Not a witness




Narayanan, Vin

Source: Media/CIT

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...esses/bart.html

"The plane exploded after it hit, the tail came off and it began burning immediately. Within five minutes, police and emergency vehicles began arriving," said Vin Narayanan, a reporter at USA TODAY.com, who was driving near the Pentagon when the plane hit.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/washscene.htm


He also said this:

"At 9:35 a.m., I pulled alongside the Pentagon. With traffic at a standstill, my eyes wandered around the road, looking for the cause of the traffic jam. Then I looked up to my left and saw an American Airlines jet flying right at me. The jet roared over my head, clearing my car by about 25 feet. The tail of the plane clipped the overhanging exit sign above me as it headed straight at the Pentagon.

"The windows were dark on American Airlines Flight 77 as it streaked toward its target, only 50 yards away."

"The hijacked jet slammed into the Pentagon at a ferocious speed. But the Pentagon's wall held up like a champ. It barely budged as the nose of the plane curled upwards and crumpled before exploding into a massive fireball..... I think I saw the bodies of passengers burning. But I'm not sure. It could have been Pentagon workers. It could have been my mind playing tricks on me."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...rst-person.htm


And this:

Vin: Actually, that huge fireball exploded right toward me. I was on the road right next to where the American Airlines jet hit Pentagon wall. That wall is about 50 yards from the road. I was listening to the WTC coverage as well when I looked up to the left and saw a plane flying at my car. At first, I thought it was heading toward National just to get out of the air. But the closer it got, the more it looked like it was going to hit my car. The tail of the jet clipped an overhanging exit sign above me on it's way down. Then it slammed into the Pentagon wall.
http://cgi1.usatoday.com/mchat/20020909002/tscript.htm


There is a recurring theme throughout the witness pool (allegedly) within the Pentagon basin. They describe everything bar the official path. Specifically those who found themselves on Route 27 (the road the runs in front of the alleged impact side)

Aldo Marquis phoned Vin Narayanan (@27:50mins)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3383333411025014760#

27:50 :

ALDO: So you were under an overhead sign. Correct?

NARANYAN: ..I was under an exit sign, basically..I was just before the exit sign..the exit sign was on the approach.

ALDO: And you say the tail actually hit the sign?

NARANYAN: It clipped it..

(...)

ALDO: So did you see it clip any lightpoles?

NARANYAN : No, it didn't clip any lightpoles or anything like that.. it didn't clip any lightpoles, just the exit sign.


So where was he and how does his description fit in with the official path and impact?

Was he referring to the exit sign that is just before the poles on the official path?

http://i25.tinypic.com/6z7fyd.jpg

He saw no lightpoles being struck. He was adamant (even indignant) about that.
He also claimed that there were no trees obstructing his view.

These are the trees Aldo was referring to with the exit sign he is supposedly referring to

http://i28.tinypic.com/whkzz8.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/P9290019.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...route27lie1.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt...route27lie9.jpg



And the best idea of the view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOmrp-A8Vxk

The relevance of these details? Look at this overhead. He places himself supposedly before the first exit sign where the trees are.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9001/el...perspective.jpg

The official flightpath has the aircraft arriving from behind his perspective and not looking to his left (the official speed would have it covering this area between the Navy Annex and Route 27 in 2 seconds!). The trees would most definitely have been at least within his line of view. And how would the fireball explode "right toward" him?

He had to be further up the road where the NOC witnesses drew their paths.

http://i27.tinypic.com/akxxy8.jpg

His description of the nose "curling up", the "tail" falling off, and seeing "passengers burning", like his story, is journalistic embellishment.





Navy Admiral, unnamed

Source: Media
SGYDK

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evide...sses/sgydk.html

Anonymous.





Neri, Michael

"Response"

Excerpts from an interview with Captain Michael J. Neri, Jr., who was Special Assistant to the Assistant Surgeon General for Force Protection.

"Colonel Fruendt, our secretary Doreen, and myself were in there. I looked at Colonel Fruendt and said, “I’m surprised we haven’t heard an announcement about increased levels of THREATCON here at the Pentagon.


Did not see aircraft. Was inside the building.




Breakdown A:

There are 28 alleged witnesses

- inside the Pentagon during event 

- 5

- not there 

- 4

= 19

- anonymous 

- 4

= 15

- could not physically see Pentagon 

- 3

- Cynthia and Daniel McAdams
- McCoy

= 12

- vague testimonies 

- 2

- McCusker
- Martinez

- second hand account

- 1

- Mason (not quoted once)

= 9

- in area, could not see alleged impact area and/or "heard/felt" 
alleged impact 

- 4

- Milburn
- Mitch Mitchell
- Munsey
- Morin


= 5 alleged witnesses to alleged impact

- Marra
- McGraw
- Mosley
- Naranyan
- Middleton





Breakdown B:

28 alleged witnesses

21 of which are sourced by the media

3 of which appeared on online message boards.

2 of which are E mails

1 of which came from a CMH interview.

1 of which appeared in the ASCE Report.

4 of which were interviewed by CIT (3 in person)

- Middleton
- Morin
- McGraw
- Naranyan

1 of which was phoned by Jeff Hill.

- McGraw

2 of which is confirmed NOC.

- Middleton
- Morin

2 of which describe possible NOC vantage points on Route 27

- Naranyan
- McGraw

1 of which describes the Washington flightpath and contradicts the official "loop" west of the Potomac River/Washington

- Middleton

3 of which are "over the Navy Annex" witnesses.

- Middleton
- Morin
- Munsey (possible)

2 of which contradict the official speed.

- Middleton
- Morin

2 of which describe a significant bank.

- McCoy
- Middleton

1 of which questioned the site of an alleged plane crash:

"I didn't see any evidence of the aircraft down there. (...) This pile here is all Pentagon metal. None of that is aircraft whatsoever."

- Terry Mitchell


1 of which, there is visual proof that the story is suspect or at least needs verified

- Mosely


1 of which would have had the aircraft in sight for less than half a second at the official speed.

- McGraw


6 of which it's claimed described ducking/diving/physical reaction to the blast:

- Mitch Mitchell ("We felt the intense heat of the fireball and felt the car shudder as we heard the thud of the impact.")


- Morin ("For those formerly in the military, it sounded like a 2000lb bomb going off roughly 1/2 mile in front of you.")


- McGraw ("There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact.")


- McAdams couple (second hand) ("they heard a big boom and felt the doors and windows of their three-story building shake")


- Munsey ("a ground shaking whomp")





Breakdown C:

1 of which is not quoted once.

- Mason

1 of which whose alleged description of the alleged impact is added by the journalist:

"There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cartwheeled into the building."

- Marra

1 of which whose alleged description of the aircraft altitude is added by the journalist:

"McGraw estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon."

- McGraw

1 alleged witness who insinuated that he saw the lightpole and cab scenario until asked specifics by Aldo Marquis and has since retracted:

"The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver"

- McGraw

1 of which was a second hand account attributed to the C130 pilot witnessing the alleged impact that the witness in question (O'Brien) contradicted when contacted

"He saw it crash into the building."

- McClellan





Breakdown D:

Of those who actually claimed to witness the aircraft with connections to military/media or government

Military

- 3

- McCusker (co-chair of the Coalition for National Security Research)
- Mason (military contractor/Ex USAF)
- Morin (Ex USMC Aviator)

Media

- 3

- Mitch  Mitchell (CBS Military Consultant/Army Colonel)
- Munsey (Navy Times reporter)
- Narayanan (USA Today)






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