Flyover witness revealed

This presentation features 9 more north side witnesses and the critical new flyover witness.
9/11_Justice_Now
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04 Feb 2010, 21:58 #41

Craig Ranke CIT @ May 29 2008, 10:56 AM wrote: Ahhhh.

That makes sense.

I'm going to eventually archive and host it myself since this extremely damaging account may disappear at any moment.

But it's good to show how it's at the LoC site

It's a serious heavy blow to the detractors how he explained seeing the plane immediately after the explosion way back in 2001.

It's such a heavy blow that they are STILL looking for ways to deny it and twist his account even though it's been archived and we recently confirmed and verified it with him direct.

And did you make an recording of the conversation with him when you
contacted him to verify his account?
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Craig Ranke CIT
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04 Feb 2010, 22:05 #42

9/11_Justice_Now @ Feb 4 2010, 09:58 PM wrote:
And did you make an recording of the conversation with him when you
contacted him to verify his account?

Roosevelt Roberts?

Yes of course. You can hear parts of it in National Security Alert but the entire unedited version along with the relevant parts of the LoC interview with commentary from us is in part 2 of the North Side Flyover here:

skip to 41:50
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24 Feb 2010, 19:37 #43

If you guys get a chance, let me know if I have this rough timeline correct. I'm re listening to the CMH interview here: Robert's CMH Interview

9/11 Boogers time lines claim that:

1st-Roosevelt sees the plane hit the a Trade Center tower on TV. This would be 9:10 live. Boogers claim this is a replay he is watching which brings into greater question number 3. This has to be the 2nd hit because the first wasn't shown on that day, that early.

2nd-After he thinks about he looks again at the tv, (CUT OFF BY INTERVIEWEE!!!ARGG )and he hears another plane is coming in from the TV broadcast(to NYC or Washington is unclear)(the interview cuts off before hand so the listener is left with what Roberts was referring to.) and the plane hits the building! Sad we don't know what said before hand because the interviewer cuts him off. This CAN'T be a replay of the first. He has already seen the replay of the second hit we all saw. So he CAN'T be reacting to a "plane hit" that he has already watched at least once. It is clear he is reacting to the "hit on his building" not what was witnessed on tv. He doesn't describe a fireball or explosion from either the TV or the alleged impact.

3rd -Roberts thinks that its as if the building hit (?)was timed for preciseness. How do you come to that conclusion after watching a 'replay' on TV according to the Boogers?

4th-Roberts goes outside after talking on the phone and sees the plane flying around in the South parking lot.(Notice the lack of the explosion, debris, light pole destruction, sound of explosion-everything that should have been mentioned if he saw the impact plane is missing! He mentions very minute details regarding the rest of the story but not the one that would have the greatest impact on his psyche, the actual hit, explosion, fireball,etc. He doesn't mention this because it already happened. He doesn't see the fireball and smoke because of the different locations.

5th-Roberts describes dust coming from the ceiling and people screaming. And he goes about his post attack duties.

There is no way to spin his account.
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25 Feb 2010, 00:31 #44

Swing Dangler @ Feb 24 2010, 07:37 PM wrote:
5th-Roberts describes dust coming from the ceiling and people screaming. And he goes about his post attack duties.

There is no way to spin his account.

Precisely.

There is no question about about the timeline since we confirmed this with him directly.

He is very clear that he saw a "commercial airliner" with "jet engines" over south parking at about "50 feet" altitude within "10 seconds tops" after the explosion at the Pentagon.

Our lying detractors are trying to say that when he says "the plane hit the building" in the 2001 interview that he is referring to watching the plane hit the WTC on tv but this is clearly not what he meant and this is proven when he follows it up with "lights flickering" and "dust coming from the ceiling" and then continues on to describe the chaos at the Pentagon. Obviously he was referring to the Pentagon, not the WTC on TV.

They are making crap up to confuse people while ignoring the fact that we confirmed exactly what he meant in our recorded interview from 2008.
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25 Feb 2010, 16:55 #45

I was re-watching the Northside Flyover Part 2. At 57:21 you insert the news report from WUSA and that ends at 57:28. Did Roberts comment on anything in between that time or did you keep the interview rolling and insert that news report to demonstrate the 'going off to the side' which eventually puts it over the south lot?


Considering Roberts location at the time of the interview, do you suspect that he saw the jet over the mid to eastern portion of the parking lot? If he sees it over the A parking spots, the jet can't make that banking turn from the NOC path. But over the mid to eastern portion of the south lot makes a lot more sense when it comes to the plane banking prior to the alleged impact. Most if not all of the NOC's describe this bank. There is no reason to bank unless your preparing to pull up and over the building. Any witnesses would describe that banking as if it were heading to Regan airport. For anyone not distracted by the explosion on or folks on the opposite side it would appear that the plane was setting up the approach to Regan. Nothing nefarious about that if you didn't know the Pentagon had just been hit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Roberts can't even see the approach of a plane of NOC flight path if watching from the south lot loading dock?

If this is the case, and it appears to be, there is no way it wasn't the flyover plane. Besides if he were describing the SOC official path, he would have no reason not to talk to you in the first place. :lol:
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25 Feb 2010, 18:37 #46

Swing Dangler @ Feb 25 2010, 04:55 PM wrote:I was re-watching the Northside Flyover Part 2. At 57:21 you insert the news report from WUSA and that ends at 57:28. Did Roberts comment on anything in between that time or did you keep the interview rolling and insert that news report to demonstrate the 'going off to the side' which eventually puts it over the south lot?



Just kept it rolling. The phone call is completely unedited.


Considering Roberts location at the time of the interview, do you suspect that he saw the jet over the mid to eastern portion of the parking lot? If he sees it over the A parking spots, the jet can't make that banking turn from the NOC path. But over the mid to eastern portion of the south lot makes a lot more sense when it comes to the plane banking prior to the alleged impact.


Yes.

The fact is that he saw the plane. The notion that he would be perfectly accurate about it's exact location over the parking lot during such a chaotic and confusing event is not reasonable.

Lane 1 is parallel with the alleged impact side and he states that the plane came from the alleged impact point. So for him to deduce that the plane came from that area makes sense with that in consideration.



Most if not all of the NOC's describe this bank. There is no reason to bank unless your preparing to pull up and over the building. Any witnesses would describe that banking as if it were heading to Regan airport.

For anyone not distracted by the explosion on or folks on the opposite side it would appear that the plane was setting up the approach to Regan. Nothing nefarious about that if you didn't know the Pentagon had just been hit.


It would be impossible to not be distracted by the explosion unless you were too far away to see the plane fly away. No doubt anyone who did see the plane was not only distracted by the explosion but also confused. Nobody knew for sure what was going on at the time. There were all kinds of wild reports immediately after the event and anyone who saw the plane flying away would later easily reconcile it as "another plane" just like Roosevelt did.

The last thing they would do during all the hysteria in the run up to war is think that the plane they saw near the airport proves a false flag black op.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Roberts can't even see the approach of a plane of NOC flight path if watching from the south lot loading dock?


Correct. Particularly since he was in his boot watching the TV.


If this is the case, and it appears to be, there is no way it wasn't the flyover plane. Besides if he were describing the SOC official path, he would have no reason not to talk to you in the first place.  :lol:


Precisely.
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16 Apr 2010, 10:59 #47

I just had a dream where a witness actually a cop who was at the pentagon
and in his testimony he said "I thought i saw the plane fly over" and I couldn't
wait to tell you guys but it was only just a dream if only it where real.

Any new fly over witness testimony yet? Didn't think so bummer.

:( :( :(
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16 Apr 2010, 17:41 #48

There will be some new developments in this area. Nothing too exciting, just enough to shed more light on FLYOVER that DID happen.
"Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph."
~Emperor Haile Selassie I, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Ras Tafari)
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08 Aug 2010, 22:07 #49

Does anybody rember the name of the guy that claimed he saw the wings
of the plane fold back as it entered the pentagon? I am pretty sure he is media
anyone know?
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08 Aug 2010, 22:59 #50

That was Mike Walter.

More on him here:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=119
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