CHV Lives On

Well, hey, it could have been worse.
They could have pulled a second XBox 360.

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"The main differences are the 60 GB drive and the 20 GB drive in terms of disc storage. The 20 GB has HD component rather than HDMI. The 60 GB machine has additionally memory card slots on it, which are great for archiving photo and other content. But the 20 GB machine has USB ports so you can get all the functionality with external devices."

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"That seems to be a misunderstanding and I'm happy to clear that up. Both machines have Blue Ray disc as standard. Both machines play Blue Ray disc movies as standard. Both machines will play Blue Ray disc movies as HD. The only difference is that the high end machine uses a more convenient digital interconnect called HDMI which is a digital standard and the 20 GB unit uses HD component which is an analog standard. The picture quality is fantastic."

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"The end user will not notice any quality difference. Perhaps if you were projecting onto a gi-normous screen you might notice some difference, but also not every HD display has HDMI. So we're providing a choice to the consumer."

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"Both versions will support 1080p."

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zomgwut :-*
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"That seems to be a misunderstanding and I'm happy to clear that up. Both machines have Blue Ray disc as standard. Both machines play Blue Ray disc movies as standard. Both machines will play Blue Ray disc movies as HD. The only difference is that the high end machine uses a more convenient digital interconnect called HDMI which is a digital standard and the 20 GB unit uses HD component which is an analog standard. The picture quality is fantastic."

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Nobody ever doubted that both machines had a Blu-Ray drive, it's whether or not they'll be able to display Blu-Ray movies at their full resolution. Yes, you can display a Blu-Ray movie in full HD, but that's IF the studio who released the DVD doesn't enable HDCP on it. Now, let's think about this for a second: Do you really think too many major Hollyood movie studios (including those that Sony owns) are going to skip out on copy protection for this new format, especially after being pissed off at how quickly CSS was broken on DVDs, simply so the cheaper model PS3 can play these movies without a hitch? Call me crazy, but I don't think so.
I have no doubt that the picture quality for both games will be fantastic, and virtually the same, whether you're using component or HDMI. I just don't expect to see the movies outputted at their full resolution under component. At best, if they're still squabbling over the specifics of the protection, the first batch of Blu-Ray movies may escape this, but it won't be the standard. Just like CSS is not required on DVDs, the vast majority of domestic releases (99%+) will still use the code.

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"The end user will not notice any quality difference. Perhaps if you were projecting onto a gi-normous screen you might notice some difference, but also not every HD display has HDMI. So we're providing a choice to the consumer."

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No argument from me there. Hell, I know people who claim that they can't see a difference between VHS and DVD. However, the complaints aren't so much about a pixel-perfect display of the picture, as much as what it'll mean for those who don't have a HDMI-compatible HDTV, as well as those who plan on buying an HDTV in the future, yet plan on buying the cheaper PS3 now. The games will look the same, but will the movies?

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"Both versions will support 1080p."

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Again, no doubt from me on that that one. But, as I said before, don't expect to see 1080p out of your Blu-Ray movies unless you're using HDMI.
Also, as much as 1080p may become the new HD standard in the future, considering that less than 1/2 of 1% of HDTV owners are probably even capable of displaying that resolution, VERY few games will take advantage of it. I don't see too many developers who are willing to make their games run at more than two times the resolution of 720p, when virtually nobody will be using it (as of 2006/7, this'll obviously change as time goes on). The PS3 is capable of 1080p resolution for its games, but just like the XBOX1 supported 1080i, don't expect more than a handful of games to actually utilize that. The vast majority of the people in the next year or so will probably be running the machine in 480i (less than 1/6th the resolution of 1080p), many of them via an RF connection.
Who knows, maybe I'm wrong on this one. Perhaps Ken has laid a similar set of standards as Microsoft did on the 360 (requiring all games to output 720p), and are making sure that every PS3 game will be viewable at 1080p. I highly doubt it, and I'm going to assume that 720p will be the de facto standard, but I will be pleasantly surprised if that turns out to be the case.

It was more or less a reply to Drakk's "tard pack" post.
Also, relative to the Blu-Ray protection, that's not really Sony's fault(relative to Blu-Ray's made by companies other than Sony). Blaming Sony for something Pioneer does is like blaming Ford when the new tires you got put on you car blow out because they were made poorly. not allowed

Valid point, except for the fact that Sony is one of the companies who came up with the concept and is implementing it into their product. No company can just come up with a Blu-Ray movie, it needs to be licensed through the BDA (or most specifically, Sony: "Sony, by appointment by the above Blu-ray Disc Association Board of Directors as the Blu-ray Disc License Entity is responsible for Blu-ray Disc Information Agreement (IA) and Blu-ray Disc License Agreement.").
It would be more akin to blaming Ford when your Ford certified tires blow out on you.

I did come across this though while going through some of the AACS and ICT guidelines:
"According to CED Magazine, Sony/MGM and Disney currently have no plans to down-convert, and Fox is opposed to it as well. Warner Pictures is a proponent of the ICT, and it is expected that Paramount will also implement it [8]. Other studios releasing Blu-ray content have not yet commented on whether or not they will use down-conversion. AACS guidelines require that any title that implements the ICT must clearly state so on the packaging."
I look forward to hearing more on this from Sony, both on the tech end (SCEI) and the content-producing end (SPE) of the company.

Oh well. :-* not allowed

I am getting the 60Gigger. Not at launch though. Maybe summer 07. But I am getting the more expensive PS3 no matter what. Not settling for anything less.

: pens the box of evil and points at rKassim::
I need to get one of you to explain this blue-ray thing to me.
Ren

It's a blue ray of light that holds untolds amounts of data. This light is then trapped in a reflective cube, and that's what the PS3 plays. not allowed