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Posted: 8:10 AM - May 09, 2003
Jim
Try finding women (or men) who fit those descriptions in something that isn't anime though. For the most part, any character in a show or movie isn't supposed to be "real" (ie, have all of the problems a "normal" person has), aside from those cases where that's the POINT of the show. Why do you think they use Barbie-like models to promote a line of clothes? Because a "real" person isn't going to have that effect, for either sex. People don't want reality, whether its being jaded by the fictional images that we see every day or not.
Jamie Lee Curtis did a piece in some women's magazine a few months ago about that line of thought. She basically let them photograph her as she normally is, without makeup or any of the typical "benefits" she'd normally get when being photographed. And it was...her, which is a pretty far cry than the half-naked version seen in something like True Lies. She's the same person, but do you honestly think any director would have put the "real" JLC in a role like that?
Reality and fiction share some similarities, but one normally can't be too much like the other without causing problems. Reality is too dull for entertainment, and entertainment doesn't normally have the time to dive deep enough into all of the physical/mental/social problems of any given character during a single moment in time.
So if someone wakes up with a bad hair day or with acne (I'm picturing that Saved By The Bell episode right now for some reason ), its usually done in a comedic fashion. Otherwise, reality is too boring for most people to produce or watch in a fictional setting.
I'm...losing my train of thought here (caffine is obviously wearing off), so I'll stop before I ramble on or go further off-topic.

Posted: 8:19 AM - May 09, 2003
katyjag
I agree with you entirely Jim, this is why I said there's no such thing as too many bishounen in the first place.
But if people are going to get annoyed by the amount of bishounen in anime then we have every right to be annoyed by the ubiquitous bishoujo.

Posted: 8:26 AM - May 09, 2003
Jim
Oh, I'm sorry, I must've loaded up the wrong forum, because I have no idea what you just said.
You need to remember (as I'm sure you do) that Japan is a very male-dominated culture. I would that think pretty much explains exactly why you see more of one than the other (as well as the commonplace objectification of women in their [as well as our] media).

Posted: 9:09 AM - May 09, 2003
Gestahr
xSpike Spiegel: What the fuck is this forum shit?
eddiefitz3: ?
xSpike Spiegel: How do we go from "normal looking girls in anime" to "look for real women"? :O
eddiefitz3: katy was saying that there aren't "real" womein in anime...her logic being that they don't have all of the imperfections that a person has
xSpike Spiegel: She never said real, she said normal
eddiefitz3: I don't think she meant "normal looking" to be only about physical descriptions
xSpike Spiegel: There's a HUGE difference.
eddiefitz3: depends
EDIT: The above conversation ends with me whining about double standards and Jim wanting to go to sleep...or something...I really wasn't listening to him. :onot allowed

Posted: 12:08 PM - May 09, 2003
katyjag
In conclusion I resent anime women because they're not ugly like me.
Thank you.

Posted: 12:46 PM - May 09, 2003
Jim
In conclusion, its a shame that even the most kick ass anime men like Alucard simply can't compare in coolness to me.

Posted: 1:11 PM - May 09, 2003
CyberDeffender
In conclusion, I rather prefer unique girls in real life compred to unusually beautiful anime women like Belldandy

Posted: 1:17 PM - May 09, 2003
katyjag
*squees over the Hellsing and Azumanga Daioh stuff her friend bought her back from Tokyo yesterday* ^_____^
Alucard isn't a man, he's a vampire. He's cooler than you. Nuh.
/rabid fangirlism

Posted: 1:36 PM - May 09, 2003
Jim
Gest was right...

Posted: 1:43 PM - May 09, 2003
CyberDeffender
I like Chiyo chan in her penguin suit
[getting hypnotized by the cuteness]
Iluv Alucard's gloves i should hurry up and make mine