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First off, Jim, you ARE biased. That's why you own 6+ copies of the killer and you haven't seen any of Escaflowne; you've been watching live action films a lot longer, and you like them more. I'm biased as well, it's human nature, I DO like anime more than I like live action films; you seem to think I automatically assume a film is shit because I don't go out of my way to see a movie when you recommend it, or because it "wasn't animated in Japan", which isn't true. I don't know how you got that idea, the only reason that comes to mind is because I like anime, but I'm not a huge film buff like you. Regardless, I'm done with this aspect of the conversation because we're just gonna to keep going back and forth.
Now, it's completely beyond me why Disney got the rights to something like "The Killer", as they ARE a family company and something like that is gonna send every god-loving soccer mom into a tizzy. Disney, however, is not a new company, you obviously know Disney HAS been around for years; you should also know, then, that Disney doesn't need your buck. Disney has a dedicated target audience, they're not worried about what you, or hardcore HK fans think. AGain, why Disney is even touching this film is beyond me, but as soon as the outrage comes from some of the parents, Disney is either going to drop "The Killer" and sell it to someone else, or they're simply going to hold it and not release it at all.
Lastly, you seem to be the one making the mistake of assuming corporations care about you. Hell, the only reason I even replied to this thread, much like your old X-Box one, is because you pissed me off by coming into it with some crazy Super-Jesus-"I can change the world with the power of my mind" post about how Disney would "feel your wrath":
" Should Disney release a copy of any of John Woo's films in the US in anything less than their original form, they shall feel my wrath in a way that NOBODY (not even the MPAA or RIAA) has before. I will most certainly go out of my way to ensure that as many copies are bought and returned "defective" as possible; and even circulating bootleg copies, both DVD and DivX, as fast as humanly possible, physically and on the net."
I don't care if you wanna write a letter to Disney and express your irritation at the handling of films; hell, I agree with you and support what you're trying to do. Don't, however, talk about some amazing power you have to sabotage Disney's operations unless you actually have the power to do it; nothing pisses me off more than people who talk big and can't back it up.
So I'm gonna end with this, 'cause I'm really tired of debating this. In my personal opinion, this whole thing is going to go the same way the ICP fiasco went a few years back. Truthfully, Disney does not care what you think as you are not in their target audience; Disney is, and most likely always will be, a family-oriented company. When you grew up, and starting taking films seriously, thats when you were placed outside of Disney's target audience.

I have no time to read the last three posts.
I am going to sleep because I have a shitload of work to do tomorrow.
I support Gestahr's arguments, morals and various points of view from this day forth unconditionally..




Happy bitch? *night!!*MRk MRK n FnK Mz

I agree with BuMz.

That's not being biased. The reason for that is the fact that I already have SEEN one film, and enjoyed it, while I know little or nothing about the other. I may hate it, or I may jump out and buy every DVD of Escaflowne, but the simple reason isn't being biased, but the simple fact that I havn't seen it. I don't have any copies of "The Young And The Dangerous", a HK movie series Bumz recommended that's up to like #9, simply because I havn't seen it.
I DO believe that you're someone who will pick an animated film over a live-action one, at least most of the time. When it boils down to picking another anime or watching something new, perhaps one of David Lean's films, you'll most certainly gravitate towards the anime. Now that's not exactly a "problem", I'm just saying you're missing a lot of what's out there. Hell, if anything, I've recommended films to you that I believe you'd enjoy, and havn't seen, while I've seen a couple of your anime recommendations. I watch films, whether they're animated or not, but if you pick animated works almost exclusively, you are missing out. Your choice, but it happens to be one that I disagree with.
Now about Disney licensing The Killer, it goes under what I said about control. Disney becomes "Engulf & Devour" in any way possible. Disney ownes dozens of companies, under different names, to distribute the non-family films. The Killer will likely go under the Dimension or Miramax label, as did other "non-Disney" films like Mononoke or City On Fire have before. Disney is "touching this film" for an extra profit, not to "bring it to the US", as companies like Criterion (a company that again recognizes films as ART) have already done so. The problem with The Killer is that it translates to American audiences rather well, but some of Woo's other films such as Bullet In The Head would not. I'm against changes to either film, but I know Disney's scissors will be meeting the latter a few more times.
I never said I can change the world, and again, don't assume I say so. I had a SPECIFIC PROBLEM WITH THE XBOX, that's it. I'm not out to destroy Microsoft from the ground up for that problem (although that would be nice ). Disney would most certainly gain a bigger enemy by continuing their plans of butchering films. Will that enemy make a difference? Possibly, if Disney changes their course (again, something that they HAVE done due to consumer-feedback in the past, which is the only reason why the Mononoke DVD is bi-lingual). Will it change anything else? No, because I'm not TRYING to change anything else, as I've said dozens of times.
I'm not talking of some "amazing power" to sabatoge Dinsney. I'm talking about a simple level of protest. Returning discs back as defective are virtually a pure loss (still, with a net overall gain) for the distributers. Ones labeled "defective" are destroyed, and the retailer is refunded the amount for the defective product, as is the customer. Returning 15 discs as defective in one area will cause no big deal, but if you get just 20 people to do so in the entire US, via online public protests, that's another 300 discs going back, again, not a huge dent, but a dent nonetheless. The more people who truly support these ideas, the bigger the difference it'll make. No, it won't CHANGE DISNEY, but if it causes them to re-do the disc properly, then that's all we're asking for.
I've written my letters to Disney in the past, and just finished another one. Its just another simple protest that'll be trashed by some minimum-wage clerk who can barely read English, but again, if more than just me and a few other film fans are doing so, eventually someone will notice.
And furthermore, Disney is NOT just a "family-oriented" company. Disney goes out of their way to make you BELIEVE that, and that's why they have other companies to do so. Would you think that films like Clerks, The Crow, Pulp Fiction, Scream, Con Air, Hellraiser, The Sixth Sense, Halloween: H2O, The Royal Tenenbaums, and even Martin Scorsese's new film Gangs Of New York are all Disney? They all are, along with tens of thousands of others, all released under different names. Disney reaserves the true "Disney" name for their animated flicks like The Little Mermaid, or past Disney live-action films such as Swiss Family Robinson. Disney is a company out for profit, and the family-friendly image is the facade they put forth to bring them that profit. But in fact, most of Disney's profits from films do NOT come from their in-house animated films any longer, with Disney companies like Miramax and Pixar making the vast majority. Disney's real profit from their family-focus image is their theme parks, merchandise, etc.

"The Young And The Dangerous"?! roFL!
You made it sound like one of those daytime soapies! (ala The Bold and the Beautiful!)
It's just "Young and Dangerous".
MRk MRK n FnK Mz

Whatever. I havn't seen it, and Ekin Cheng is still dwarfed by the "awesoma power" of people like Tony Leung.

Go see y&d first, then we'll talk.MRk MRK n FnK Mz

After you see In The Mood For Love and Chungking Express.
I won't mention Tokyo Raiders since its already been proven in that flick that Leung is cooler.

(hoped you wouldn't bring up TR) >_< lol
grrr...
Granted. MRk MRK n FnK Mz

You should all go watch "Running Out of Time", then "Bounce KO Gals".