Interview with Jerry Hargis

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Jun 26 2012, 01:08 AM #1

Just setting up the forum for tonight :)
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Jun 26 2012, 01:19 AM #2

testing Jake :P
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Jun 26 2012, 01:24 AM #3

you made it LOL
its like the other part of the board, but guests cant view this part, just members logged in here.
as long as your logged into the board, you should beable to go to other parts of the board and come back here without logging in again.
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Jun 26 2012, 01:40 AM #4

very good, i see now the answer to my question i emailed you, when is he gonna start ? 20 minutes ?
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Jun 26 2012, 01:44 AM #5

at 9pm about 15 mins. He was having internet problems earlier, if he cant get online, he has sent me the answers to all the questions asked and I will post it. Hopefully he can get here :)
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Jun 26 2012, 01:50 AM #6

didnt think this until today but we shoulda got Derrel in here with him <cb>
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Jun 26 2012, 01:52 AM #7

I see that you have to refresh the page to get it to update. Is that what we should expect?
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Jun 26 2012, 01:54 AM #8

maybe Brady, this is like a regular forum but private, we use to do them in the chat room, but it always kicked folks out, the server it runs on. I will leave all posts up in here.
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Jun 26 2012, 01:56 AM #9

Getting Derrel to sit in front of the computer for more than 2 minutes is almost impossible :D
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Jun 26 2012, 01:57 AM #10

laughing I bet, Jerry you can put those questions and answers up anytime and then folks can ask more if they like :)
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Jun 26 2012, 02:01 AM #11

Also, what is the one FACTOR he looks for the first time he bucks his calves

- As for the wow factor, the bull below is pretty close to what I look for to make me get excited. He blows out good and tries to turn back all in one move, he fell, but got back up and wanted to get right back to bucking. He's the 2nd wildest of the bunch, so I think that by the time he's two, he'll be ready to compete and have it figured out.

http://youtu.be/jn2NGn8eaM4,


and what age does he first buck them, and how often does he buck them?

we buck them once at weanling age, then the next time about 6 months later - at that time, we evaluate them and determine how long before we buck them again - every bull is different, some bulls may need bucked often, and some not,

what is his percentage of keepers, how many cows is he running?

I try to keep around 20 cows, so I average 10 bulls per year, and I get at least one each year that has that wow factor, and fits into the category that I would call rank - one or two calves always outshine everything else. Sometimes I do take one to the cowsale - they'll usually go through the motions of bucking and probably spin, but if they don't have good conformation and a good attitude, I go ahead and ship them - those type of bulls will probably make someone a solid rodeo bull one day, but I don't like dead-heads, especially if they aren't made really well.
I change my gameplan and strategy a little from year to year, and I'm in the business of selling, so the age and number of bulls that I sell usually varies, but everything will eventually be sold, or at least half interest in them - and usually at a fairly young age.

does he keep calves that don't buck with a dummy to try with a rider, if so why?

Even though the majority of my calves I raise make better rider bulls than dummy bulls, I still cull on the dummy, because not everything is just how they buck with it... it's a combination of breeding, attitude, conformation, movement (not in the arena), and bucking STYLE. Some traits in the arena may not look great for a yearling, but they can portray potential for down the road.

I would like to ask, how often do you buck a young bull?
Does it depend on each individual bull?
Is there a such thing as bucking them to much, burning them out or ruining them from over bucking?

Every bull is different, and you have to analyze each one to determine their needs. Their breeding type, handling level, nervousness and maturity level can all be factors. Some bulls can get burned by bucking them too much too early, and some can handle more.


As far as feeding goes, cows are fed differently from bulls. How do you decide what and how much to feed them? Have you always fed the same feed and forage to your cows or has it changed through the years or even in the same year?

It has changed a little over the years, when I lived in Henrietta, they had the best cubes I've ever seen, so I fed that. Now I feed them a ration that's basically the same as my young bull ration and feed them in troughs. I feed them everyday, a few pounds each a day

Without revealing any secrets, what are some of the ways to keep competition bulls healthy and competing without using steroids?

Send them to my training program... ;)

Do you buck your cows and heifers before you breed them?

Yes, I don't keep anything that doesn't buck

What character flaws does he look for when culling his cow herd?
What are some of his best bred cows ? (sires/dams)

Kick and action, I don't keep any dead-heads
My best bred cows are Up in Smoke and Calicoat Jack

Looking back on his choices, if he were to start over again, what would he do different?

I don't guess I would change anything. There may have been things that we could've done differently, but it seems like everything just fell into place at the right time, and I'm as happy as I could be with the way things are. Everything happens for a reason and God has blessed us tremendously.

Also, if he was hired as an consultant, what advice would he give to new breeders getting into the business?

If I was a hired consultant, I'd get paid to answer this question... hahaha!
There's really so many ways that you could go into it, and it depends on your goals and of course the amount of money you're wanting to invest, so that would be a fairly lengthy conversation - it would take quite awhile to put it all down in words here. Call or email and I can be of help.

What is his thoughts on Flushing? Does he flush or IVF?

I tried it on a very small scale several years ago (got 1 bull and 3 heifers) and don't like anything about it. I've also bucked through hundreds of flush calves and have yet to see one that I'd use as a breeding bull.

would like to ask what bull had the single most impact on the Hargis breeding? from both cows & bulls perspective?

There's 2: -59 and Gunslinger. Each happened at just the right time.


1) What do you look for in conformation in females? Athletic, good frame, good bag
2) How do you match a sire to a female? Or do you think that trying to match specific traits to animals matters that much (ie good sire to good cow = good calf)?
That's the toughest and trickiest part of this whole business and would probably take several pages to put down all my thoughts and ideas on the subject. But basically, get the best possible sire and dam that you can possibly get, with the resources that you have. If you have a &#036;10,000 bull, don't breed him to a commercial cow, or visa versa.
3) How do bloodlines impact breeding choices? Number one, the bull has to buck. 2nd is bloodlines.
4) How many times do you like to see a name in an animal's lineage (double bred, triple bred, etc)? I don't get excited just because a bull has White Sports Coat in his pedigree 5 times. It really all depends on where it's at in his lineage and how it has been it's been used to maximize those genetics.
5) How much of an impact has the female side of the equation mattered to your program? Specifically, is there a cow line that has really produced through direct sons and daughters to grandsons and daughters to great grandsons and daughters, etc?
The female is the most valued asset to me - there's a -59 daughter that is still in the majority of our herd today- she may be 6 or 8 or 10 generations back, but she shows up somewhere every time I look, and each one of her daughters went on to be good ones, and on down the line. We do out-cross, but all of those old females, from each great bull we've been lucky enough to breed to, still run through the blood of our herd now.
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Jun 26 2012, 02:09 AM #12

that is great Info Jerry thank you

If anyone wants to ask another question please do so
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Jun 26 2012, 02:10 AM #13

how did you get Strawberry Wine? was he in a cow you bought?
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Jun 26 2012, 02:11 AM #14

sent you a video.
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Jun 26 2012, 02:16 AM #15

jake @ Jun 25 2012, 08:10 PM wrote: how did you get Strawberry Wine? was he in a cow you bought?
Actually, we owned the cow and bred her, she had S.W. in her when we sold her, but then bought her back shortly after
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