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That time is now

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August 24th, 2011, 6:18 pm #1

2 Timothy 4:3 (AMP)
For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,


2 Timothy 4:3 (KJV)
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;




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August 24th, 2011, 6:27 pm #2

The double standards of God
By Daniel Florien on September 20, 2008 in Bible, Christianity, Fundamentalism, God.
Jesus, the supposed God-man, taught his disciples to love their enemies and to do good to those who hated them. He taught them to forgive the sins of others. He taught them to treat others how they want to be treated.

Does Jesus follow his own teaching?

He called the scribes and Pharisees sons of the devil, fools, hypocrites, serpents, and white-washed tombs. Whenever he decides to returns to earth (which is “soon,” as they’ve been saying for 20 centuries), he comes back with a vengeance — “with a sword in his mouth” and a “robe dipped in blood” along with an army “to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron” (Revelation 19).

Nice guy, right? Obviously knows how to love his enemies in a way beyond our comprehension.

Does God follow his own teaching (or his son’s, if you rather)?

When an unbeliever dies, and when he finally sees evidence for God and repents for not believing, will God let him into heaven? Or will the unbeliever be sent to hell for eternal torment, like the Bible says?

When a man who hated God dies and stands before God, will God love his enemy and do good unto him? Or will he tell him, “Depart from me, O sinner, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!”

Did God love his enemies when he destroyed the entire world with a flood? When he killed all the firstborn of Egypt? When he had Israel stone a man for picking up sticks on the Sabbath (Num. 15)? When he killed 90,000 Midianites (Num. 31)? 10,000 inconvenient Canaanites who had Israel’s land first (Judges 1)? 50,000 Benjaminites (Judges 20)? 1,000,000 Ethiopians (2 Chr. 14)?

How does God love his enemies when he slaughters them? How does God do good to those who hate him when he sends them to hell to be tortured for all eternity?
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August 24th, 2011, 7:41 pm #3

Always praying for you Art....be blessed
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August 24th, 2011, 8:49 pm #4

2 Timothy 4:3 (AMP)
For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,


2 Timothy 4:3 (KJV)
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;



Seems they've been saying that for 2000 years now. Just sayin' ..




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August 24th, 2011, 9:04 pm #5

Not sure we really know how often and in what way they saw it 2000 yrs ago. But you are right it has been said before I would suggest it is much nearer today. One thing is for sure God knows and I believe you have even seen a change in your lifetime even thought you have possibly drifted away as it may be.

How are the boys?
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August 24th, 2011, 9:24 pm #6

That you have posted two non narky posts in a row? At this rate you risk becoming a good example of a christian.

Just thought you should know.
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August 24th, 2011, 9:56 pm #7

Thanks Art and you have been rather civil also.
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August 24th, 2011, 10:20 pm #8

The double standards of God
By Daniel Florien on September 20, 2008 in Bible, Christianity, Fundamentalism, God.
Jesus, the supposed God-man, taught his disciples to love their enemies and to do good to those who hated them. He taught them to forgive the sins of others. He taught them to treat others how they want to be treated.

Does Jesus follow his own teaching?

He called the scribes and Pharisees sons of the devil, fools, hypocrites, serpents, and white-washed tombs. Whenever he decides to returns to earth (which is “soon,” as they’ve been saying for 20 centuries), he comes back with a vengeance — “with a sword in his mouth” and a “robe dipped in blood” along with an army “to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron” (Revelation 19).

Nice guy, right? Obviously knows how to love his enemies in a way beyond our comprehension.

Does God follow his own teaching (or his son’s, if you rather)?

When an unbeliever dies, and when he finally sees evidence for God and repents for not believing, will God let him into heaven? Or will the unbeliever be sent to hell for eternal torment, like the Bible says?

When a man who hated God dies and stands before God, will God love his enemy and do good unto him? Or will he tell him, “Depart from me, O sinner, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!”

Did God love his enemies when he destroyed the entire world with a flood? When he killed all the firstborn of Egypt? When he had Israel stone a man for picking up sticks on the Sabbath (Num. 15)? When he killed 90,000 Midianites (Num. 31)? 10,000 inconvenient Canaanites who had Israel’s land first (Judges 1)? 50,000 Benjaminites (Judges 20)? 1,000,000 Ethiopians (2 Chr. 14)?

How does God love his enemies when he slaughters them? How does God do good to those who hate him when he sends them to hell to be tortured for all eternity?
I just do not believe God has ever done the things you mentioned. God has driven me to my knees many times, but He has never been mean and vengeful and he has never harmed me. My personal pain and tribulation has all been to make me a better person and more dependent on His mercy.

Thank You Lord - for everything.





"The Father does the Heavy Work"
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August 24th, 2011, 10:25 pm #9

The double standards of God
By Daniel Florien on September 20, 2008 in Bible, Christianity, Fundamentalism, God.
Jesus, the supposed God-man, taught his disciples to love their enemies and to do good to those who hated them. He taught them to forgive the sins of others. He taught them to treat others how they want to be treated.

Does Jesus follow his own teaching?

He called the scribes and Pharisees sons of the devil, fools, hypocrites, serpents, and white-washed tombs. Whenever he decides to returns to earth (which is “soon,” as they’ve been saying for 20 centuries), he comes back with a vengeance — “with a sword in his mouth” and a “robe dipped in blood” along with an army “to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron” (Revelation 19).

Nice guy, right? Obviously knows how to love his enemies in a way beyond our comprehension.

Does God follow his own teaching (or his son’s, if you rather)?

When an unbeliever dies, and when he finally sees evidence for God and repents for not believing, will God let him into heaven? Or will the unbeliever be sent to hell for eternal torment, like the Bible says?

When a man who hated God dies and stands before God, will God love his enemy and do good unto him? Or will he tell him, “Depart from me, O sinner, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!”

Did God love his enemies when he destroyed the entire world with a flood? When he killed all the firstborn of Egypt? When he had Israel stone a man for picking up sticks on the Sabbath (Num. 15)? When he killed 90,000 Midianites (Num. 31)? 10,000 inconvenient Canaanites who had Israel’s land first (Judges 1)? 50,000 Benjaminites (Judges 20)? 1,000,000 Ethiopians (2 Chr. 14)?

How does God love his enemies when he slaughters them? How does God do good to those who hate him when he sends them to hell to be tortured for all eternity?
You're required to believe the unbelievable and/but if/when the truth is finally revealed ... you get no chance to change your mind!~

It's totally about allowing yourself to be brainwashed. (The modern version).

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August 24th, 2011, 10:31 pm #10

2 Timothy 4:3 (AMP)
For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,


2 Timothy 4:3 (KJV)
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;



Well that I definitely have to agree with there.



Some use scripture whenever it serves to prove what they have chosen to believe. But then reject or ignore others whenever it doesn't, but instead is contradictory to what they have chosen to believe. Instead of finding out why some do contradict others dealing with the same subjects.
Love in Christ,
Sandy


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